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      06-02-2020, 12:35 PM   #1
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Why are dealer website listings always garbage?

Seems like no matter the brand or location dealer website listings are always trash. Trying to figure out what options are included only to find out that an "option" for the car you're looking at is turbocharged or rear defrost. Why can't there be a dealer template that makes the sales people specifically tick what optionsthe car has? Is it that difficult?

Here is a "Premium Options & Packages" section for an M5 and identified a few of the non-optional premium options.

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Adaptive Cruise Control
Apple CarPlay
Front Ventilated Seats, Active Park Distance Control, Soft-Close Automatic Doors, Surround View w/3D View, Rear View Camera, Front Massaging Seats, 4-Zone Automatic Climate Control, Power Rear Sunshade & Rear Side Window Shades, Front & Rear Heated Seats, Parking Assistant Plus EXECUTIVE PACKAGE
All Wheel Drive (NOT OPTIONAL)
Back-Up Camera (NOT OPTIONAL)
Blind Spot Monitor
Bluetooth Connection (NOT OPTIONAL)
ACC Stop & Go + Active Driving Assistant, Active Lane Keeping Assistant w/side collision avoidance, Traffic Jam Assistant, Evasion Aid and Cross-Traffic Alert Front DRIVING ASSISTANCE PLUS PACKAGE
HANDS-FREE LIFTGATE
Interior Trim -inc: Aluminum Instrument Panel Insert, Aluminum Door Panel Insert, Aluminum Console Insert, Metal-Look Interior Accents and Leatherette Upholstered Dashboard
Keyless Entry
Lane Departure Warning
Leather Seats
Navigation System
Power Driver Seat
Rain Sensing Wipers
Satellite Radio
Dual Stage Driver And Passenger Seat-Mounted Side Airbags
WiFi Hotspot
ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT
$3,400

BOWERS & WILKINS DIAMOND SURROUND SOUND SYSTEM

DRIVING ASSISTANCE PLUS PACKAGE
$1,700

ACC Stop & Go + Active Driving Assistant
Active Lane Keeping Assistant w/side collision avoidance
Traffic Jam Assistant
Evasion Aid and Cross-Traffic Alert Front

EXECUTIVE PACKAGE
$3,650

Front Ventilated Seats
Active Park Distance Control
Soft-Close Automatic Doors
Surround View w/3D View
Rear View Camera
Front Massaging Seats
4-Zone Automatic Climate Control
Power Rear Sunshade & Rear Side Window Shades
Front & Rear Heated Seats
Parking Assistant Plus

PRIMARY PAINT

DONINGTON GRAY METALLIC

WHEELS: 20" X 9.5" FR & 20" X 10.5" RR M Y-SPOKE

Style 789M
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most dealers are owned by parent companies; which may use their templates. furthermore its all automated. the cars are going to sell. they just have to get you to the lot. i know seraching for a manual and seeing a flappy is a pain in the ass
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The dealer software just uses a VIN decoder to pull options. Its sort of right. Dealers arent actually reading and writing 90% of their vehicle descriptions.

They have a preset template + VIN decoder to populate cars.com / autotrader.com / cargurus.com / carfax.com ect...
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The absolute worst is when you are looking for a manual car. Sooooo many dealerships list their paddle shift autos as “manual”.
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They should do what all Mazda dealerships do and provide a PDF link to the actual window sticker. That way you know exactly what options are included and the exact MSRP.
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The absolute worst is when you are looking for a manual car. Sooooo many dealerships list their paddle shift autos as “manual”.
Many dealerships? It seems that *all* BMW dealerships classify DCT as a manual. Assuming dealership data feeds into cpo.bmwusa.com -- if you search for a CPO, every single M2 in the US is classified as a manual. You have to look at the pictures to determine 6-speed vs. DCT. I've never seen an M2 classified as an automatic.
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They should do what all Mazda dealerships do and provide a PDF link to the actual window sticker. That way you know exactly what options are included and the exact MSRP.
This is such a simple solution to the problem. Could not agree more.
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      06-02-2020, 09:43 PM   #8
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iT'S FUCKING BRUTAL, HATE IT. Like really, especially the smaller guys, just get it fucking right.
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Many dealerships? It seems that *all* BMW dealerships classify DCT as a manual. Assuming dealership data feeds into cpo.bmwusa.com -- if you search for a CPO, every single M2 in the US is classified as a manual. You have to look at the pictures to determine 6-speed vs. DCT. I've never seen an M2 classified as an automatic.
My local dealer lists a DCT M2 as an automatic . Here is their current inventory with a few Automatic M2Cs: https://www.bmwseattle.com/new-inven...anchor-model-5
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My local dealer lists a DCT M2 as an automatic . Here is their current inventory with a few Automatic M2Cs: https://www.bmwseattle.com/new-inven...anchor-model-5
That's interesting. I only ever looked at CPO inventory.

The new inventory search (https://www.bmwusa.com/inventory.html) does not even offer transmission choice as a filter. Even when you select a specific vehicle, it does not show you the transmission in the car details and DCT is not listed in the Packages and Options section.
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