FRM3 replaced with another FRM3 stil issues

Mike Atkisson · 08-09-2020, 07:58 PM

So here is where I am currently. I have a 2010 335i with factory Xenon headlights.

I managed to fry the original FRM3R module by incorrectly disconnecting the battery. I had a spare FRM3R module out of a 2011 328i that I am parting out. I assumed I could just recode the 328i module and everything would work on my 335i, but that is not the case.

For headlights I currently only have the Xenon Low, the LED running light, and the LED Turn signals. I have no Xenon flap, no Angel eyes, no AHL, and no Cornering lights. I pulled the lights off the car and tested every bulb and they all work and the Xenon flap motor works too.

All I can figure is there is either something different with the FRM3R modules or I am still missing some coding somewhere.

The Original module states E89 E9x LED AHL and the replacement module states E90 E91 LED BASIS.

I purchased the XProg to attempt to restore the original FRM, but I cannot get any software to actually run to access the eeproms.

Anyone have some advice on how I should proceed?

b1aze · 08-10-2020, 08:21 AM

I think you need to copy the VO to the replacement FRM for it to sync up properly

Emilime75 · 08-10-2020, 08:25 AM

Did you look on RealOEM to see if both cars used the same part number FRM?

icon2015 · 08-10-2020, 02:58 PM

The FRM3 LED AHL has a different PCB than FRM3 LED BASIS; Thus, any coding done won't be able to activate the mentioned functions. You need FRM3 with AHL or Maxbrose. Or you can send your FRM to be repaired(if it is your first attempt with Xprog, that won't be so easy, you can find a FRM3 resurrection thread in this section).

eZpZ · 08-10-2020, 06:25 PM

Same position as you after disconnecting my batt to replace my SMBF seat module. Seat now reclines but at the cost of corrupting FRM3. Now I will always wait 20 min after opening trunk before unhooking negative terminal...

I just saw your previous post in the FRM3 resurrection thread:

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Originally Posted by Mike Atkisson

Has anyone run into an issue where the Xprog software will not run? I have tried the version on the CD as well as downloading from 2 different Mega sites. Everything else seems fine until I try to start the Xprog software. I get a small spinning circle for a few seconds then nothing happens.

Are you installing the software on a 32 bit OS?

Mike Atkisson · 08-10-2020, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by eZpZ

Same position as you after disconnecting my batt to replace my SMBF seat module. Seat now reclines but at the cost of corrupting FRM3. Now I will always wait 20 min after opening trunk before unhooking negative terminal...

I just saw your previous post in the FRM3 resurrection thread:

Are you installing the software on a 32 bit OS?

I was attempting to install on a Win7 64 bit system. I dug out an old HP Netbook I used to use with VW software and did a factory reset on it. Now working with a Win7 32 bit version and after loading everything I still cannot get the XProg software to load. What comm port am I supposed to be set for and would that matter for starting the software? Is the software ok to be in a folder on the C: or does it need to be in the root folder?

eZpZ · 08-11-2020, 11:40 AM

Hey so I'm not too familiar with this software as I've never used it but I can try to help you out. What version of X-Prog are you trying to install?

Comm port should be 3 but it wouldn't affect the application running. Make sure you have all the supporting software installed (Acrobat Reader, Registry files) and make sure you're opening X-Prog by right-clicking > Run as administrator.

eZpZ · 08-11-2020, 11:42 AM

Based on the few videos I saw while I was doing some research, comm port and drivers can configured after installed after running x-prog for the first time, but Acrobat Reader and Registry files seem to be required to run.

Let me know which version you have and I can try to find you a simple guide.

Mike Atkisson · 08-11-2020, 08:43 PM

Thank you for the offer to assist, but I have tracked down a VM that seems to be working.
I just have to figure out how to use the software now that I can actually see it.

Mike Atkisson · 08-11-2020, 10:56 PM

Finally got the Software to run only to discover there is a Certificate error with the box.

I thought it would be a fun project to repair my own FRM, but it has been so frustrating.

eZpZ · 08-12-2020, 07:16 PM

How sure are you that you actually 'fried' the original FRM3R module? I just went through this after unhooking my battery to swap passenger seat SMBF module after recline stopped working. When I hooked the battery back FRM failed to respond, 2010 e92.

Had to get FRM re-flashed at a local indy BMW shop. They used HexTag, I was in and out in 15 minutes (also mentioned they had many issues with X-Prog). After reinstalling FRM no coding was required. Cleared existing errors and went for a short drive last night. Everything is functioning normally now.

The original FRM3R is still fine especially if it crashed from disconnecting the battery.

Mike Atkisson · 08-13-2020, 09:34 PM

Basically the same when I say fried. Just unhooked battery cables and reconnected incorrectly. Could not connect to FRM anymore. Reading all the posts about how easy it was to resurrect them, I wanted to give it a try for myself.

sdbmwcoding · 08-13-2020, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Atkisson

Basically the same when I say fried. Just unhooked battery cables and reconnected incorrectly. Could not connect to FRM anymore. Reading all the posts about how easy it was to resurrect them, I wanted to give it a try for myself.

You'll be able to recover it with xprog, just read through some walkthroughs on google. There's plenty of good one for xprog and frm3 repairs

Mike Atkisson · 08-14-2020, 01:14 PM

That was my plan but it looks like the box I received is defective.

sdbmwcoding · 08-14-2020, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Atkisson

That was my plan but it looks like the box I received is defective.

What error or issue are you having?

Mike Atkisson · 08-14-2020, 11:53 PM

Whenever I try to read eeprom I get message stating Waiting Certificate. Green bar goes across until I hit stop.

Mike Atkisson · 08-15-2020, 12:54 PM

Last question hopefully. My original FRM is a 6135 9224604. I found a replacement FRM that is 6135 9241014.

They both say E89 E9X LED AHL. Other that updating VIN and copying VO is there anything else I need to do to get this module to work?

Mike Atkisson · 08-15-2020, 07:42 PM

Disregard last question. The replacement module is in the same boat as my original module. I installed it and went to code it to my car and Protools does not see the FRM. Swapped basic module back in and it works fine. I am not having much luck with this car.

Mike Atkisson · 08-24-2020, 09:54 PM

I just can't get a break with this car... I sent my module out to a company in CA that rebuilds these modules. I shipped it off last Mon and got it back today.

Well, I install the module and get the exact same issues as before I sent it off. Light module failure message and cannot see FRM when using diagnostic too. This whole FRM thing is so frustrating.

sdbmwcoding · 08-25-2020, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Atkisson

I just can't get a break with this car... I sent my module out to a company in CA that rebuilds these modules. I shipped it off last Mon and got it back today.

Well, I install the module and get the exact same issues as before I sent it off. Light module failure message and cannot see FRM when using diagnostic too. This whole FRM thing is so frustrating.

You sent the original frm that was installed in the car and failed to get repaired or you sent off the replacement one thinking it was faulty? If the original one has the same issues after restoring it then you're not coding it correctly or your issue lies elsewhere which would require a full diagnosis scan with ista and some test plans run. Ista can manually actuate all the lights that don't work for you. It also might be worth it to reach out to one of the sponsored vendors on the forum to have them remote in and see if they can do anything for you.

Mike Atkisson · 08-25-2020, 07:57 PM

I sent the original FRM to be repaired. When I got it back it is no different. It was supposed to be matched to my VIN (which I also provided just in case it was needed). No coding was supposed to be needed. I was prepared to code it but the ProTool cannot see the module.

sdbmwcoding · 08-25-2020, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Atkisson

I sent the original FRM to be repaired. When I got it back it is no different. It was supposed to be matched to my VIN (which I also provided just in case it was needed). No coding was supposed to be needed. I was prepared to code it but the ProTool cannot see the module.

If the frm functions are working like windows, mirrors, turn signals and cluster lights then protools should be able to see the frm no problem. Do you have a laptop with standard tools and Ista? This will be a better job for laptop software

08-09-2020, 07:58 PM	#1
Mike Atkisson Private First Class 25 Rep 182 Posts Drives: BMW 540ix Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Tucson, AZ iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 BMW 435i [0.00]	FRM3 replaced with another FRM3 stil issues So here is where I am currently. I have a 2010 335i with factory Xenon headlights. I managed to fry the original FRM3R module by incorrectly disconnecting the battery. I had a spare FRM3R module out of a 2011 328i that I am parting out. I assumed I could just recode the 328i module and everything would work on my 335i, but that is not the case. For headlights I currently only have the Xenon Low, the LED running light, and the LED Turn signals. I have no Xenon flap, no Angel eyes, no AHL, and no Cornering lights. I pulled the lights off the car and tested every bulb and they all work and the Xenon flap motor works too. All I can figure is there is either something different with the FRM3R modules or I am still missing some coding somewhere. The Original module states E89 E9x LED AHL and the replacement module states E90 E91 LED BASIS. I purchased the XProg to attempt to restore the original FRM, but I cannot get any software to actually run to access the eeproms. Anyone have some advice on how I should proceed?
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08-10-2020, 08:21 AM	#2
b1aze Just one more taste... 568 Rep 2,011 Posts Drives: 2013 128i 6MT MSport Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Uxbridge MA iTrader: (18)	I think you need to copy the VO to the replacement FRM for it to sync up properly
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Emilime75 Colonel 1227 Rep 2,476 Posts Drives: 2010 335i E92 LeMans Blue Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Merica! iTrader: (1)	Did you look on RealOEM to see if both cars used the same part number FRM?
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icon2015 Private First Class 21 Rep 126 Posts Drives: E92 320d ~200 bhp Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Bucharest iTrader: (0)	The FRM3 LED AHL has a different PCB than FRM3 LED BASIS; Thus, any coding done won't be able to activate the mentioned functions. You need FRM3 with AHL or Maxbrose. Or you can send your FRM to be repaired(if it is your first attempt with Xprog, that won't be so easy, you can find a FRM3 resurrection thread in this section).
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08-11-2020, 11:40 AM	#7
eZpZ New Member 5 Rep 15 Posts Drives: 2010 E92 N54 xDrive Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	Hey so I'm not too familiar with this software as I've never used it but I can try to help you out. What version of X-Prog are you trying to install? Comm port should be 3 but it wouldn't affect the application running. Make sure you have all the supporting software installed (Acrobat Reader, Registry files) and make sure you're opening X-Prog by right-clicking > Run as administrator.
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eZpZ New Member 5 Rep 15 Posts Drives: 2010 E92 N54 xDrive Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	Based on the few videos I saw while I was doing some research, comm port and drivers can configured after installed after running x-prog for the first time, but Acrobat Reader and Registry files seem to be required to run. Let me know which version you have and I can try to find you a simple guide.
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Mike Atkisson Private First Class 25 Rep 182 Posts Drives: BMW 540ix Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Tucson, AZ iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 BMW 435i [0.00]	Thank you for the offer to assist, but I have tracked down a VM that seems to be working. I just have to figure out how to use the software now that I can actually see it.
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Mike Atkisson Private First Class 25 Rep 182 Posts Drives: BMW 540ix Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Tucson, AZ iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 BMW 435i [0.00]	Finally got the Software to run only to discover there is a Certificate error with the box. I thought it would be a fun project to repair my own FRM, but it has been so frustrating.
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08-12-2020, 07:16 PM	#11
eZpZ New Member 5 Rep 15 Posts Drives: 2010 E92 N54 xDrive Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	How sure are you that you actually 'fried' the original FRM3R module? I just went through this after unhooking my battery to swap passenger seat SMBF module after recline stopped working. When I hooked the battery back FRM failed to respond, 2010 e92. Had to get FRM re-flashed at a local indy BMW shop. They used HexTag, I was in and out in 15 minutes (also mentioned they had many issues with X-Prog). After reinstalling FRM no coding was required. Cleared existing errors and went for a short drive last night. Everything is functioning normally now. The original FRM3R is still fine especially if it crashed from disconnecting the battery. Last edited by eZpZ; 08-12-2020 at 11:16 PM.. Reason: clarification
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Mike Atkisson Private First Class 25 Rep 182 Posts Drives: BMW 540ix Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Tucson, AZ iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 BMW 435i [0.00]	Basically the same when I say fried. Just unhooked battery cables and reconnected incorrectly. Could not connect to FRM anymore. Reading all the posts about how easy it was to resurrect them, I wanted to give it a try for myself.
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Mike Atkisson Private First Class 25 Rep 182 Posts Drives: BMW 540ix Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Tucson, AZ iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 BMW 435i [0.00]	That was my plan but it looks like the box I received is defective.
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Mike Atkisson Private First Class 25 Rep 182 Posts Drives: BMW 540ix Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Tucson, AZ iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 BMW 435i [0.00]	Whenever I try to read eeprom I get message stating Waiting Certificate. Green bar goes across until I hit stop.
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Mike Atkisson Private First Class 25 Rep 182 Posts Drives: BMW 540ix Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Tucson, AZ iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 BMW 435i [0.00]	Last question hopefully. My original FRM is a 6135 9224604. I found a replacement FRM that is 6135 9241014. They both say E89 E9X LED AHL. Other that updating VIN and copying VO is there anything else I need to do to get this module to work?
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Mike Atkisson Private First Class 25 Rep 182 Posts Drives: BMW 540ix Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Tucson, AZ iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 BMW 435i [0.00]	Disregard last question. The replacement module is in the same boat as my original module. I installed it and went to code it to my car and Protools does not see the FRM. Swapped basic module back in and it works fine. I am not having much luck with this car.
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Mike Atkisson Private First Class 25 Rep 182 Posts Drives: BMW 540ix Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Tucson, AZ iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 BMW 435i [0.00]	I just can't get a break with this car... I sent my module out to a company in CA that rebuilds these modules. I shipped it off last Mon and got it back today. Well, I install the module and get the exact same issues as before I sent it off. Light module failure message and cannot see FRM when using diagnostic too. This whole FRM thing is so frustrating.
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Mike Atkisson Private First Class 25 Rep 182 Posts Drives: BMW 540ix Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Tucson, AZ iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 BMW 435i [0.00]	I sent the original FRM to be repaired. When I got it back it is no different. It was supposed to be matched to my VIN (which I also provided just in case it was needed). No coding was supposed to be needed. I was prepared to code it but the ProTool cannot see the module.
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