Trouble with turbos

bp044 · 10-15-2008, 08:54 PM

In this months Roundel there is a letter from a guy unwilling to buy an E90 because of all he's heard about turbos wearing out and other turbo related problems.
Does anyone have any info on this ?

addy85 · 10-15-2008, 08:59 PM

some people who over tuned their cars had turbo problems. Search

mjg335 · 10-15-2008, 09:20 PM

i had an problem with my turbos..
i was completely stock with the engine..
i had my bank 2 turbo relpaced and the actuators for the wastegate.
the dealer had my car for about 6 to 7 weeks.. i just got it this past monday..
the car feels alot faster now..

richardew · 10-16-2008, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bp044

In this months Roundel there is a letter from a guy unwilling to buy an E90 because of all he's heard about turbos wearing out and other turbo related problems.
Does anyone have any info on this ?

No, but after many years in health care I can testify that there is no cure for stupid.

Boost Gomez · 10-16-2008, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mjg335

i had an problem with my turbos..
i was completely stock with the engine..
i had my bank 2 turbo relpaced and the actuators for the wastegate.
the dealer had my car for about 6 to 7 weeks.. i just got it this past monday..
the car feels alot faster now..

Check your engine bay, maybe they put in bigger turbos?

mjg335 · 10-16-2008, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Boost Gomez

Check your engine bay, maybe they put in bigger turbos?

nope
completley stock turbos...
its just wasnt spooling...only the bank 1 turbo was..

chaz58 · 10-16-2008, 10:26 AM

Last time I replaced turbos in a car like this, it was $5000 in parts and labor. I think that is a good reason to think twice if you want to purchase and keep long term.

F32Fleet · 10-16-2008, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bp044

In this months Roundel there is a letter from a guy unwilling to buy an E90 because of all he's heard about turbos wearing out and other turbo related problems.
Does anyone have any info on this ?

I don't remember reading that in Roundel. I personally am not hoping on the turbo bandwagon with all the problems people have had with HPFP.

There seem to be 3 "issues" with the TT I6

#1 Heat (largely corrected with installtion of OEM oil cooler)
#2 Fuel Problems (high pressure fuel pumps (HPFP) going bad and/or high ethanol content in gasoline)
#3 Wastegate rattle (BMW reprogrammed the car to fix this, but at the price of increased turbo lag and slightly reduced power or so it is said)

darkphantom · 10-16-2008, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mjg335

i had an problem with my turbos..
i was completely stock with the engine..
i had my bank 2 turbo relpaced and the actuators for the wastegate.
the dealer had my car for about 6 to 7 weeks.. i just got it this past monday..
the car feels alot faster now..

what the hell?? 6-7 weeks?! I'd be SUPER pissed....what did you do about it? any compensation??

Turbo>NA · 10-16-2008, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by darkphantom

what the hell?? 6-7 weeks?! I'd be SUPER pissed....what did you do about it? any compensation??

He could of easily lemoned it...

bp044 · 10-16-2008, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by chaz58

Last time I replaced turbos in a car like this, it was $5000 in parts and labor. I think that is a good reason to think twice if you want to purchase and keep long term.

What do you consider long term. If I like a car I will keep it for 7 years plus. My E-46 is almost 9 years old and running perfectly. Will the Turbo models last that long with reasonable care ?

AtoB · 10-16-2008, 08:20 PM

i had my turbo blow on my old TTR. it totally shredded and went into the the engine.... audi had to replace the entire motor.... 12K

mjg335 · 10-16-2008, 08:45 PM

the thing is that i didnt want to lemon it..
i LOVE my car to death..
and i didnt want an 09 version because i cant part from my car..
i did get something in return though..
the performance steering wheel... there gonna install it in next week...

in5ane_3 · 10-16-2008, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbo>NA

He could of easily lemoned it...

Why don't you lemon yourself?

sorry had to. Yo Mang!

Sorry guys back on topic.

in5ane_3 · 10-16-2008, 08:56 PM

There's a lot of info on why the turbos go bad on the site search. Some of which are the actuators, waste gates, turbos not spooling (like the poster above) and various other things.

mjg335 · 10-16-2008, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by in5ane_3

Why don't you lemon yourself?

sorry had to. Yo Mang!

Sorry guys back on topic.

lol

John 070 · 10-16-2008, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by chaz58

Last time I replaced turbos in a car like this, it was $5000 in parts and labor. I think that is a good reason to think twice if you want to purchase and keep long term.

So many cars are turbos now, we're not talking about a 85 Mitsubishi. You really think someone who buys a F250 with a list price of 48k and has twin turbos has to think twice about keeping for the long term? They'd be a pretty darn unintelligent if they leased or if they didn't plan on keeping it for the long term.

vase330 · 10-21-2008, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by darkphantom

what the hell?? 6-7 weeks?! I'd be SUPER pissed....what did you do about it? any compensation??

Not uncommon. My car was at dealer every month for an excrutiating 5 months for a day or two at a time. In the end issues not solved BMW decided to swap out all my electronics. Yes ALL of them, GPS, CCC, Idrive, Amplifier, Bluetooth Module etc. THe car sat at the shop looking horribly gutted out for 3 weeks. Credit to them, they put back together you can't tell it was ever touched. Anyway, I hate to imagine whats coming now. I have Turbo issues now. No its not the Dinan Flash, these started back when I was stock and are recorded by BMW already. My wastegates are due for replacement, but loss in midrange power makes me suspect the Turbos are going out too. I was in the shop two weeks ago at DeSimone BMW for emergency unrelated issues. Was on my way to NYC and had to abort the trip and detour to dealer and lost all day. Excuse me if I am a little pissed but this shit getting to me now. Its a shame we have to liuve at the dealer, I don't like dealership that much. BMW needs to get their act together.

I thought and really believed I had dodged the bullet with the HPFP issue. Not so lucky. As luck would have it, it died on me tonight coming home from work. My fuel pump for sure. I had no hard cranks or anything of the tell tale signs. Was overtaking someone, I get on the gas and suddenly the car vibrates like its on two cylinders and lost power and I got the yellow :finger: smily. I continued on, slowed down, the smily went away and about 5 minutes later engine suddenly gave out. I stopped tried restarting 3 times for about 6-7 minutes before it suddenly came back to life as I was about to jab the SoS button. Then on my way again, and just as I was coming to a highway merge where two roads run into one, tada! F*ck! The car stutters coughs chokes and crawls down to no more than 5 miles an hour. I almost got rear-ended twice! The drivers honked at me angrily as if I had a choice, I was clearly stalled with my hazards on. Maybe its got something to do with being in a BMW? Wow people are damn mean!

Anyway I restarted and attempted to drive off as soon as I thought it was safe without morons flying around me. Got home, parked it and went to dinner in my reliable Toyota RAV 4. F*ck BMW man, can't they do better than this? My car been in the shop no less than 8 times since I have had it. My Toyota RAV has more miles without a single hitch, not even a missfire thus far. And my rattling wastegates make my BMW sound like a POS budget car. 15K and my pump is suddenly dead, no tell tale signs before this. I thought I had missed the bullet. Goes to show the OP on here who said all pumps will eventually fail was right on the money

2XVanos · 10-21-2008, 07:55 AM

Seems like it's luck of the draw. 15k mi here and not a single issue. (knock on wood)

lawdude · 10-21-2008, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by darkphantom

what the hell?? 6-7 weeks?! I'd be SUPER pissed....what did you do about it? any compensation??

He had a really nice loaner.

beepbeep · 10-21-2008, 10:41 AM

Two years, 10,600 miles, early PROCEDE adopter, lead foot. Total repairs; BMW replaced streaking wiper blades under warranty. As 2XVanos said, luck of the draw.

GeorgiaTech335coupe · 10-21-2008, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mjg335

ithe dealer had my car for about 6 to 7 weeks.. i just got it this past monday..
the car feels alot faster now..

What? I had to get a turbo replaced (completely stock) and it only took 3 days!?

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