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      12-04-2021, 02:29 PM   #1
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2022 BMW M240i vs 2018 BMW M2 // Will The Real M Car Please Stand Up https://g42.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1880701
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Thanks for posting regardless. I wish they would've reviewed the M240 on its own.
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I can't get past the designs of any of the new bmw products. I don't care how much faster it is…how much faster it goes around the Ring…that technically it's a superior vehicle. I'll stick with the old…out with the new.
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Both are good cars - itís a win-win is how I look at it. One has redeeming features the other one doesnít have, vice versa. Itís okay to pick the one you want, you donít have to turn every single thing into a **** measuring contest
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Glad they're making a big deal out of the rear seats. The car is a lot heavier and chunkier than the previous 2 but ends up without useable rear seats? What? Why?

Yes, it's a driver focused coupe and not a family car, but people in their 20s-30's will want to be able to have their mates in the back, that was like the old one's party trick. Nobody will want to ride there now.
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Can someone confirm the rear seat difference? Everything I've read is that it's essentially the same.

Maybe that's just leg room and not head room? Regardless it cannot be worse than my RSX. I would just want the rear as an absolute emergency option for short distances for small people.
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They are also comparing a non-sunroof car in the M2 vs. a sunroof in the new M240, that would reduce headroom.
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Give me a break.

The “non” M2 destroyed the M2 to 60mph. I mean it wasn’t even close. And it also bested the M2 by a good margin in the roll. And the M2 owner then says the M2 puts a smile on his face – well he wasn’t smiling after those two races was he? He even says, “come on BMW why are you making non-M cars with that much power!” You’ll notice the M240i driver is smiling ear-to-ear. Did the weight matter in those races? Embarrassing is right.

I test-drove an M240i on suburban Philadelphia roads (which are never the best here in the northeast) with the suspension in comfort and everything else in sport and it was fine. I thought the ride quality was as good or better than my 330i with a fixed suspension and it never felt the least bit “jittery”. The term “jittery” never once entered my mind. As a matter of fact, it felt pretty darn good. The M240i was surprisingly easy to drive: power of course, brakes good and easy to modulate, steering sharp and tight and ride quality sporty as expected but fine over suburban roads and the seats are very comfortable. Bring that fixed suspension M2 down here on these roads and we’ll see just how “jittery” that car is. No other reviewer has mentioned a jittery ride.

And no one is buying an M240i with the expectation of putting 2 adults in the back and driving long distances, any more than they would with a Mustang GT; kid-less adults or families with multiple cars are the demographic.

To me, the review (or more rightly the “comparison”) sounded like they were looking for things that made the M2 the better choice, maybe because one of the reviewers just bought one. If it just comes down to the M2 having more backseat room and less weight, I’ll stick with the M240i all day long.

All IMO of course – just like their “review”.

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M2 should be better, the M240 is not a true blood M Car, but damn close.

That said, the M240xi is damn quick off the line... X drive really helps. And regarding weight vs the future RWD M240 I think may only be 150 lbs. Not a big deal when 99% of us will never race a M240. I like the stability and broad shoulders, looks aggressive & great tire & wheel choices

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That new M240i X-Drive really is good from what I have seen. The two small back seats makes this a coupe version of the 2+2 cars back from the 70ís and 80ís which I really like. The small seats in the back were not really meant for use but allow for more driver room up front like in the 911ís versus the Boxsters and Caymans. The same from the older Toyota Supra and Nissan 280 and 300ZX which allowed front seats to be reclined back to where one can take a nap if they needed to on a road trip instead of just sitting straight upright like in the new Supra,new Z and the Boxtsers and Cayman Porsches. I wonder what MPH it traps at the 1/4 mile though..
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Wish they compared this to the Supra. I'd personally pick that over the m240
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Give me a break.

The "non" M2 destroyed the M2 to 60mph. I mean it wasn't even close. And it also bested the M2 by a good margin in the roll. And the M2 owner then says the M2 puts a smile on his face – well he wasn't smiling after those two races was he? He even says, "come on BMW why are you making non-M cars with that much power!" You'll notice the M240i driver is smiling ear-to-ear. Did the weight matter in those races? Embarrassing is right.

I test-drove an M240i on suburban Philadelphia roads (which are never the best here in the northeast) with the suspension in comfort and everything else in sport and it was fine. I thought the ride quality was as good or better than my 330i with a fixed suspension and it never felt the least bit "jittery". The term "jittery" never once entered my mind. As a matter of fact, it felt pretty darn good. The M240i was surprisingly easy to drive: power of course, brakes good and easy to modulate, steering sharp and tight and ride quality sporty as expected but fine over suburban roads and the seats are very comfortable. Bring that fixed suspension M2 down here on these roads and we'll see just how "jittery" that car is. No other reviewer has mentioned a jittery ride.

And no one is buying an M240i with the expectation of putting 2 adults in the back and driving long distances, any more than they would with a Mustang GT; kid-less adults or families with multiple cars are the demographic.

To me, the review (or more rightly the "comparison") sounded like they were looking for things that made the M2 the better choice, maybe because one of the reviewers just bought one. If it just comes down to the M2 having more backseat room and less weight, I'll stick with the M240i all day long.

All IMO of course – just like their "review".

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Nicely put mate.

People just can't help themselves with negativity.
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Give me a break.

The "non" M2 destroyed the M2 to 60mph. I mean it wasn't even close. And it also bested the M2 by a good margin in the roll. And the M2 owner then says the M2 puts a smile on his face – well he wasn't smiling after those two races was he? He even says, "come on BMW why are you making non-M cars with that much power!" You'll notice the M240i driver is smiling ear-to-ear. Did the weight matter in those races? Embarrassing is right.

I test-drove an M240i on suburban Philadelphia roads (which are never the best here in the northeast) with the suspension in comfort and everything else in sport and it was fine. I thought the ride quality was as good or better than my 330i with a fixed suspension and it never felt the least bit "jittery". The term "jittery" never once entered my mind. As a matter of fact, it felt pretty darn good. The M240i was surprisingly easy to drive: power of course, brakes good and easy to modulate, steering sharp and tight and ride quality sporty as expected but fine over suburban roads and the seats are very comfortable. Bring that fixed suspension M2 down here on these roads and we'll see just how "jittery" that car is. No other reviewer has mentioned a jittery ride.

And no one is buying an M240i with the expectation of putting 2 adults in the back and driving long distances, any more than they would with a Mustang GT; kid-less adults or families with multiple cars are the demographic.

To me, the review (or more rightly the "comparison") sounded like they were looking for things that made the M2 the better choice, maybe because one of the reviewers just bought one. If it just comes down to the M2 having more backseat room and less weight, I'll stick with the M240i all day long.

All IMO of course – just like their "review".

Bob
Nicely put mate.

People just can't help themselves with negativity.
Agreed, and well stated. I knew the true M fans/owners would get their feelings hurt.

They've been waiting for the real pro YouTube car reviewers and the result isn't what they expected.

They'll really start crying if Doug DeMuro praises the the 240i and infers that it's remotely comparable to the M2.
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I don't get what they're asshurt about. This is the new platform (M240). If they were real car nuts and not some badge / M-whore, they should be excited for what the next iteration of the M2 will bring, not grasp at straws that the M240 is "jittery." I'm genuinely confused - did they think bmw was going to pump out "slower" cars for the next gen?
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Willing to bet that the M240i is faster around the track too compared to the OG M2 which was never that impressive performance wise anyway.
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Can someone confirm the rear seat difference? Everything I've read is that it's essentially the same.

Maybe that's just leg room and not head room? Regardless it cannot be worse than my RSX. I would just want the rear as an absolute emergency option for short distances for small people.
My experience sitting in the rear seat of the G42 mirrors what James had to say. I felt like I was in the back seat of a Mustang; at only 5'10", I had to angle my head to otherwise sit up straight and not be touching the headliner. I too was disappointed in that aspect of the car; form dominated over, and did not follow, that aspect of function.

Leg room seemed similar enough.
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Wish they compared this to the Zupra. I'd personally pick that over the m240
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Even less room in that car

And you whack your head getting in and out
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They are also comparing a non-sunroof car in the M2 vs. a sunroof in the new M240, that would reduce headroom.
With the way the sunroof in the G series cars opens only part of the way, it appears that the headliner contour follows packaging of the sunroof - closer to the roof between rear of the sunroof and the rear glass - in an attempt to increase headroom.
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I suspect that xDrive had something to do with the M240i being so much quicker than the M2, in the first race. I think Thomas mentioned that the outside temperature was -1C; which would give the M240i an acceleration advantage over the M2 from a standstill. The race starting from a roll was much closer.

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the og m2 is slow anyways. n55 vs b58. this is a dumb/obvious comparison.
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