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      03-01-2022, 05:07 PM   #1
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How are the adaptive headlights and adaptive high beams at night? Makes it easy to drive in badly lit areas ?
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      03-01-2022, 05:51 PM   #2
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I don't really know what the fess is with the adaptive headlights (I also think they only work up to 35mph) , I only got them because I wanted the full day time driving LED vs the little bar. But I can say that the LED headlights are awesome and provide great brightness and clarity. Automatic highbeams work like a charm.
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      03-01-2022, 06:26 PM   #3
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Adaptive headlights is a fairly generic term and can mean vastly different things:
It can mean:
1] Automatic high beams: automatic switch between low and high depending upon traffic etc.
2] Curve adaptive headlights: pivots the bulbs/reflector
3] Cornering lights: lights for corner switch on/off
4] Adaptive driving beams (ADB) complex set of LEDs that react dynamically to other vehicles. As a result they do not have distinct high and low beams. Been used in Euro and Asia for quite a few years, not here (US).

Many cars now have some form of adaptive headights, even entry level.

The Infrastructure Act passed by Congress (Nov 2021) has approved true ADB for the US with instructions for the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards to amend the guidelines to allow such "modern" technology within two years. The problem was a rule dating back to 1967 required headlights to have separate high-beam and low-beam elements that could not be activated simultaneously. That rule is what needed to change.

The final rule making addressing this was just published in the Federal Register 2/22/2022, 40 CFR 571, document citation 87 FR 9916.
This runs 111 pages (pg 9916-10026) so i decided not to post it here.

So perhaps in 2023 we (US) might see some true ADB headlamp cars here, until this was published (2/22/2022) it would not have been legal.
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Interesting note/followup to the above

In 2016 VW and in 2017 BMW petitioned NHTSA (National Highway Safety Administration) for an exemption to the current regs (FMVSS No. 108) that did not allow ADB headlamps, both petitions were denied.
In 2013 Toyota petitioned NHTSA to revise the regs to allow ADB headlamps. So it took only 9 years to do and a Congressional Act, such is the entrenchment of bureaucracy.

Note the new current regs do not adopt the Euro standards (ECE) and also do lower the maximum upper beam illuminations from that allowed by Euro standards...thus headlamps designed for ECE standards still will need to be modified to meet US regs.
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So i got the regular headlight and was wondering if i. the future the full led headlights will be available in the future (maybe aftermarket)
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      03-02-2022, 09:39 PM   #6
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If you do in town driving, the difference isn't dramatic. I don't know about pitch black roads. Going from halogens to Xenon was a major improvement. It's not at that level of difference. I do see this when I decode my VIN. There's debate on what this does - Decoding anti-glare high-beam assistant.
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      03-02-2022, 10:12 PM   #7
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So i got the regular headlight and was wondering if i. the future the full led headlights will be available in the future (maybe aftermarket)
Yes i expect they (Adaptive Driving Beam LEDs) will become available here now that they will be legal. US regs did not allow this previously. I suspect they will be prohibitively expensive as an aftermarket item. The procedures to get them certified will not be simple.

As far as "decoding"the anti glare assistant...assuming the decoding works it's simply auto high/low beams for these current non ADB headlamps in the US.

Also note the current NEW regs have the auto adaptives to engage at speeds 20mph and above, below that nope. Yes the benefit in urban driving will be minimal.
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      03-02-2022, 10:33 PM   #8
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If you watch Topher new night driving review . You will see the high beams go auto on/off as cars come. Its pretty sweet.
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      03-07-2022, 10:53 AM   #9
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Finally got to do some fun driving at night, I'm blown away by the adaptive lights (first time having them).
Even up past 65mph they curve through bends which I was glad to see. Auto highbeams are also very quick to respond and turn off when needed. I might only drive the thing at night now!
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