bimmerpost/
BMW M2 and 2-Series Coupe
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BMW 2 Series Forums (G42) G42 2-Series General Topics

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      03-02-2022, 12:07 PM   #1
VIERsr
Major
Switzerland
1871
Rep
1,175
Posts

Drives: ex 1M, ex M2 Competition
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Zurich

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
M240i honest (long) review from a former 1M and M2C owner

BIMMERPOST
     Featured on BIMMERPOST.com
Today I finally drove the new M240i on some nice roads around Zurich and I must say I was overwhelmed.
I honestly admit that my expectations were not too high, in this era of digital and autonomous driving and especially after driving the new Audi RS3 I was expecting an artificial and soulless experience, but fortunately I was wrong.

First of all we have to be aware of what we are driving and what era we are living in, forget the M logos here and there, this is not and does not want to be an M-car, so the reference point is the F22 M240i and not the M2/M2C (I know them all very well). And it's 2022, the nostalgics can stop reading.

I won't spend a word on the styling, it's a subjective matter and everyone has their own opinion, and we're all right.
I can only say that the car looks much better in real life, I've seen it in black and Brooklyn gray and really liked both, it definitely deserves to be seen and judged in person, it's not a photogenic car (as well as the G8x). And it finally has a good appearance on the road thanks to the wide wheels with aggressive offset, compared to the narrow, flat wheels of the old F2x.

The interior is quite familiar, it's basically a G2x only with cheaper door panels, but you don't get that feeling of sitting in a "poorer" 3-series like on the old F2x, it feels much more premium and the M seats are simply beautiful. I'm not a fan of the digital cluster (and this is definitely not one of the better ones), but I can deal with it.
I'm not very good at describing tech stuff like infotainment, audio system, driving assistances, LED setups, and so on, so I'll leave that part to someone more knowledgeable than me.

What I appreciated the most was the driving experience, it's something really rare - maybe unique - these days and in this segment.
Basically, you can clearly feel that YOU are driving the car, and not the car is driving you (RS3...), it's definitely the most analog experience you can have for this money today. Again, remember it's 2022 and most of the cars out there are computer driven.

The chassis - despite the weight and all-wheel drive - is perfectly balanced, the car turns really well at low and medium-high speeds leaving you with good feedback of what's happening under the tires. And the lateral grip is immense, a big step forward compared to the old M240i.
It's not a light car but I can say that it masks its weight very well, it would probably suffer on the track but that's not its purpose.

In comfort mode the suspension and steering are quite soft, good for city driving but for sporty driving it's better to switch to sport or sport+ mode (honestly in sport+ I found the throttle unnecessarily reactive and the gearbox abrupt), the suspension becomes firmer but not stiff, I must say that here the roads are more than perfect though.
It's never a nervous car, but sometimes the suspension response is a bit harsh, probably because the car I was driving had overinflated tires for no reason (245/255 PS4S btw).

The car has a ton of straight-line traction, but you can really feel that it's a rear-wheel biased AWD system, obviously you can't smoke the rear tires like a RWD but you can have some fun, especially in the wet. The overall feel is closer to a RWD than an AWD and the torque transfer from the rear to the front is very predictable and well tuned (the RS3 is much much more different in this but it would deserve a separate chapter).

The steering is by far Bmw's best EPS in a non-M car, you can still feel some artificial feedback, but compared to the old F2x the improvement is more than huge. And I really appreciate the lack of interaction from the front axle, you never feel like you're driving an all-wheel drive car from the steering (again, RS3...).

The ZF8 is as brilliant a gearbox as always, on this car the tuning is perfect (only in some extreme circumstances is there a bit of lag), smooth in comfort mode, really quick in sport and sport+. Of course it's not as sharp as the DKG (though much better in auto mode), but it's really hard to complain on a car like this unless you're a stick lover. In that case there's nothing you can do about it unfortunately.

B58 is a great engine as we all already knew, there is always plenty of power from 2000rpm to almost 7000rpm, with only a slight turbulag but not as much as the RS3 (which is quite faster though). The power delivery is bold but gentle, the Audi 5-pot is definitely angrier and more engaging.

The sound, despite the OPF, is quite loud from the outside (more than my ex M2C!), but barely noticeable from the inside, probably due to great sound insulation. The fake engine noise makes the cabin come alive and sounds less fake than the old F-series, if you don't like it (like me) you can reduce it to a lower level, but then the car will be really quiet.

I won't give you the satisfaction of comparing it with my former M's because that would open a pointless debate, they are different cars with different purposes with different targets, I can only say that compared to the old M240i the improvement is huge.
But yes, the old M2 was obviously much more fun.

In short, the car is a real gem, I had a lot of fun considering I wasn't driving an M-car, in this era of videogame-car it exceeded my expectations, it is definitely the best non-M car I've driven from Bmw and starting from this point, considering how brilliant the G82 is and how incredible the S58 engine is, I can only imagine what kind of beast the G87 will be.
Unfortunately after seeing at the dealer the new iDrive 8 with the full display on the new 2-series MPV (sorry I can't remember the exact name), I have to say that it is something really inappropriate on a sports car for my taste











Last edited by VIERsr; 03-03-2022 at 03:45 AM..
Appreciate 42
PNW240219.50
Shaddy66130.00
02M3ForMe2838.00
XC3LLR8905.50
yanks1480.00
qnet615.00
Gdubz56.00
Game4928.00
werdn561.00
ReRe72.50
Beemer89154.00
AZM40i235.50
solstice5407.50
playswcars2902.00
MPSdriver163.50
ks73.00
H2O_Doc492.50
Hedoniste3190.00
W///6990.00
KRS_SN8222.50
Bumpinjeep2517.50
*mt*1046.50
mfarrzhp1239.00
M3ANSPEC287.00
1M Tex202.50
      03-02-2022, 12:13 PM   #2
beamer-dreamer
Second Lieutenant
224
Rep
295
Posts

Drives: M240i, Volvo V60 XC
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: New England

iTrader: (0)

thanks for such a well thought out review.. this makes me so excited for my car to eventually get here... mine is also a Black with Shadowline, and bi-color wheels
Appreciate 0
      03-02-2022, 12:17 PM   #3
PNW240
Private First Class
United_States
220
Rep
161
Posts

Drives: G42 M240i, Subaru Legacy
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Bellingham, WA

iTrader: (0)

Well written, and much appreciated!
Appreciate 0
      03-02-2022, 01:14 PM   #4
Golddog
First Lieutenant
Golddog's Avatar
559
Rep
300
Posts

Drives: 2022 Alfa Romeo Stelvio
Join Date: Feb 2022
Location: NW Indiana

iTrader: (0)

Great write-up. Thank you for taking the time to post this.
__________________
2021 Alfa Romeo Stelvio Veloce
2022 Chrysler Pacifica Touring L AWD (dog van)
Appreciate 0
      03-02-2022, 03:36 PM   #5
zipstic
Major
United_States
438
Rep
1,139
Posts

Drives: 2008 e92 335xi
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Minneapolis

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2008 335xi Coupe  [10.00]
Thanks for posting. I agree that the car looks much better in the flesh than it does in photographs.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      03-02-2022, 03:44 PM   #6
XC3LLR8
Captain
XC3LLR8's Avatar
906
Rep
849
Posts

Drives: Super73
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Keller, TX

iTrader: (0)

If all things were equal (price, specs) which would you pick over the M240i or the new RS3?
Appreciate 1
YuravB9.50
      03-02-2022, 04:44 PM   #7
VIERsr
Major
Switzerland
1871
Rep
1,175
Posts

Drives: ex 1M, ex M2 Competition
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Zurich

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by XC3LLR8 View Post
If all things were equal (price, specs) which would you pick over the M240i or the new RS3?
This is a good question.
On its side the RS3 has more exclusivity (it's still an RS) and that fabulous and unique 5-cylinder, but the driving - although much improved over the old one - is still too front-biased for my taste and its gimmick 'AWD torque rear' is awkward.
So yes, I'd probably go for the M240i, unless I need 4 doors.
The point is that here the RS3 is about 10k CHF more expensive than the M240i, and I really can't justify such difference (the Audi will depreciate less though).
Just my opinion.
Appreciate 1
XC3LLR8905.50
      03-02-2022, 05:44 PM   #8
BigKutta
Brigadier General
BigKutta's Avatar
United_States
3626
Rep
3,928
Posts

Drives: 2020 M2C, 2019 330xi, 2017 Q7
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Washington DC Burbs

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2019 330xi  [0.00]
2017 Audi Q7 3.0  [0.00]
2020 M2C  [0.00]
Now I'm really looking forward to the G87
Appreciate 1
qnet615.00
      03-02-2022, 06:08 PM   #9
gottacatchemall
New Member
gottacatchemall's Avatar
34
Rep
18
Posts

Drives: E92 6MT Jerez Black
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Texas

iTrader: (0)

Echo the OP on the ZF8 and S58. Both are fantastic and the strong points of the car. However, the steering feedback is minimal to none and braking is underwhelming.
Appreciate 1
Germanauto9021.50
      03-02-2022, 06:11 PM   #10
Caggs
Lieutenant
Caggs's Avatar
United_States
143
Rep
407
Posts

Drives: M2 Competition
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Collegeville, PA

iTrader: (4)

Great review. Really well written and perfect perspective to avoid the peanut gallery to pounce on this review.
__________________
Josh Caggs / @M2C.Caggs on Instagram
BSM M2Competition / MPerformance Coilover Kit
Akrapovik Full Exhaust System (Mid & Rear)
BBS FI-R Platinum Gloss w/ Michelin Cup2s
Eventuri Carbon Fibber Intake
Appreciate 0
      03-02-2022, 06:30 PM   #11
Game
Major General
Game's Avatar
4928
Rep
9,033
Posts

Drives: G87 (Preorder)
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Chicago'ish

iTrader: (24)

It really is a great car and even better daily driver. Fun when you want it, comfortable when you want it. If it were available in MT, it'd be a home run.

Thanks for sharing.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      03-02-2022, 08:03 PM   #12
Germanauto
Major General
Germanauto's Avatar
United_States
9022
Rep
5,790
Posts

Drives: Alfa Romeo Giulia, Rosso
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: LA

iTrader: (0)

Thanks for the writeup but most reviews seem to disagree with you OP. Everybody says that while highly competent and reasonably good to drive, it's not an analog car. That's a bold claim to make.

Regardless, this car bodes well for the M2. I'm sure the eventual RWD 240 will be great as well.
__________________
Former
-2008 E90 328 black/brown
-2012 Lexus IS250 black/black
Appreciate 0
      03-02-2022, 08:26 PM   #13
trey100
Colonel
trey100's Avatar
1084
Rep
2,525
Posts

Drives: 2016 M3 6MT
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: New York

iTrader: (0)

The new M2 is going to be great.
Appreciate 0
      03-02-2022, 09:11 PM   #14
solstice
Major General
5408
Rep
7,035
Posts

Drives: 2015 M3 6MT
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Seattle

iTrader: (0)

Yup, it’s a really good car. It makes the best of the unavoidable modern weaknesses combined with the strengths as the venerable B58 and the latest Xdrive version, the result is the best non M I’ve driven since the E series. I truly enjoy driving it which I can’t say of any non M F-series car. Needless to say my wife adores it (it’s hers) and she hated all our BMWs after the E60
Appreciate 1
EXE461918.50
      03-02-2022, 09:35 PM   #15
NHRef
New Member
15
Rep
6
Posts

Drives: BMW e36 M3; MINI Cooper S (R53
Join Date: Mar 2022
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

M240i on Track?

Thanks for the thorough evaluation!

Regarding the comment, "It's not a light car but I can say that it masks its weight very well, it would probably suffer on the track but that's not its purpose," are you suggesting the car would not be suited to racing? Or perhaps referring to occasional on track driving schools?
Appreciate 0
      03-02-2022, 09:42 PM   #16
solstice
Major General
5408
Rep
7,035
Posts

Drives: 2015 M3 6MT
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Seattle

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by NHRef View Post
Thanks for the thorough evaluation!

Regarding the comment, "It's not a light car but I can say that it masks its weight very well, it would probably suffer on the track but that's not its purpose," are you suggesting the car would not be suited to racing? Or perhaps referring to occasional on track driving schools?
I know it was for the OP but to me this car doesn’t feel like it belong on the track. Everything that makes our M3 feel like it does isn’t there but as the OP says it’s not the intention. This is a street car, a very good one. Not to say it wouldn’t be a blast to take it to it’s limits on the track without worrying about the law
Appreciate 1
NHRef15.00
      03-02-2022, 10:03 PM   #17
wspalding
Private First Class
73
Rep
159
Posts

Drives: 2023 M340i
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Kalamazoo, MI

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2018 M240i  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by NHRef View Post
Thanks for the thorough evaluation!

Regarding the comment, "It's not a light car but I can say that it masks its weight very well, it would probably suffer on the track but that's not its purpose," are you suggesting the car would not be suited to racing? Or perhaps referring to occasional on track driving schools?
The car isnít for those that are serious about track days, but with my tuned F22 I had Porsche 911 cars waving me by during HPDE events, admittedly in a novice group. Iím confident the G42 will generate a lot of smiles for the occasional HPDE enthusiast.
Appreciate 1
NHRef15.00
      03-03-2022, 02:41 AM   #18
VIERsr
Major
Switzerland
1871
Rep
1,175
Posts

Drives: ex 1M, ex M2 Competition
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Zurich

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by gottacatchemall View Post
Echo the OP on the ZF8 and S58. Both are fantastic and the strong points of the car. However, the steering feedback is minimal to none and braking is underwhelming.
I found the brakes with the cooling package and high performance tyres good enough for road driving, pedal feel isn't that good though, but it's what you should expect from a street car with no track orientation.
Note that the wider hi-performance front tires help a lot with braking power and steering feel, most of the reviews I've read so far were based on cars with all seasons or narrow runflat tires (225 instead of 245).
But again, it's not an M-car and you shouldn't expect exceptional braking.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Germanauto View Post
Thanks for the writeup but most reviews seem to disagree with you OP. Everybody says that while highly competent and reasonably good to drive, it's not an analog car. That's a bold claim to make.

Regardless, this car bodes well for the M2. I'm sure the eventual RWD 240 will be great as well.
Yes, most of the review compared this to the OG M2, some even to the Cayman (!), I find it is quite pointless, of course M2 and Cayman give you a better driving experience, no doubt about it.
Anyway for some reason they forgot that this is the replacement for the F22 M240i xDrive, and the improvement over that is tangible in every way.
And when you consider what the competitors are offering, this is the most engaging, analog experience you can have right now for this money. Of course you can't compare it to a Cayman, price and purpose are on another level, but when you consider that in Europe the M240i is priced between the Audi S3/MB CLA 35AMG and the RS3/CLA 45AMG, from my perspective the Bmw is worth every penny and offers the best driving experience overall (although it's not a perfect car).
Quote:
Originally Posted by NHRef View Post
Thanks for the thorough evaluation!

Regarding the comment, "It's not a light car but I can say that it masks its weight very well, it would probably suffer on the track but that's not its purpose," are you suggesting the car would not be suited to racing? Or perhaps referring to occasional on track driving schools?
Well, on the road even if you drive fast but within the limits of common sense, a good chassis can mask the weight, but on the track you can not override physics and I guess the limits come out in the form of fading and overheating of brakes and tires.
But for occasional track driving it should be ok with proper brake pads and fluid without expectations of setting a track record
Appreciate 4
      03-03-2022, 03:11 AM   #19
playswcars
G80 Convert
playswcars's Avatar
2902
Rep
765
Posts

Drives: '23 M3 Comp xDrive
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Zurich

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
For future reference, what roads did you test it on?
__________________
Current: 2023 G80 M3 Competition M xDrive | Individual Velvet Blue 379 | Individual Full Leather Merino Tartufo |
Past: G80 M3C, G05 X5, F82 M4, F87 M2C, F21 M140i
Appreciate 0
      03-03-2022, 03:44 AM   #20
VIERsr
Major
Switzerland
1871
Rep
1,175
Posts

Drives: ex 1M, ex M2 Competition
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Zurich

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by playswcars View Post
For future reference, what roads did you test it on?
I started in Seefeld and drove to Pfannenstiel and the surrounding area.
Appreciate 1
playswcars2902.00
      03-03-2022, 04:02 AM   #21
playswcars
G80 Convert
playswcars's Avatar
2902
Rep
765
Posts

Drives: '23 M3 Comp xDrive
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Zurich

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by VIERsr View Post
I started in Seefeld and drove to Pfannenstiel and the surrounding area.
I know the area, some great roads!
__________________
Current: 2023 G80 M3 Competition M xDrive | Individual Velvet Blue 379 | Individual Full Leather Merino Tartufo |
Past: G80 M3C, G05 X5, F82 M4, F87 M2C, F21 M140i
Appreciate 1
VIERsr1871.00
      03-03-2022, 08:24 AM   #22
BobHen
Private First Class
240
Rep
111
Posts

Drives: BMW 2022 M240i
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Philadelphia

iTrader: (0)

Nice review. I agree with all of your points. I took a test drive and ordered one the same day. I also ordered mine in black sapphire with red brake calipers. It's going to be a daily for me so I don't need M2/track performance but want driving fun. Should be here in 6-weeks or so.

Maybe I’m old but I agree about those video game dashboards. I ordered mine with standard dials. All the info I need to see is there with a quick glance at the tachometer or the speedometer and then eyes back on the road. If dials are good enough for Porsche, well…

Bob
Appreciate 1
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:31 PM.




g42
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST