Business vs Professional Nav

biscuits · 12-08-2008, 03:54 AM

Chaps,

I have a mate who is looking to buy a 3 series. He's lookng at one that has Business Nav. I've not seen this version, only the Pro.

What are the differences? I can't find any oinfo online.

Cheers

B

dxb335d · 12-08-2008, 05:08 AM

I aint too sure buddy, i think the Business only has certain angles of viewing ?

fyonn · 12-08-2008, 05:21 AM

I think the differences are as follows:

1 disc drive instead of two, so you can't have both a nav disc and a CD in at the same time. you either keep a map disc in at all times and use the radio, or a CD changer, or I think you can calculate a route and then take the disc out and put a music CD in, and it'll "remember" the route.

4:3 display, instead of the widescreen display that the professional nav has, so no splitscreen viewing mode.

early business nav systems only supported the arrow display, with no moving map display. I think that later business systems allowed a choice between arrow view and moving map view

I think that business nav doesn't come with voice activation.

not sure about other differences.

dave

BC4J · 12-08-2008, 05:46 AM

Business nav is not the business. Spend the dough & go with Pro.

dxb335d · 12-08-2008, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BC4J

Business nav is not the business. Spend the dough & go with Pro.

biscuits · 12-08-2008, 06:15 AM

Thanks for your constructive help there chaps.....

The car he's looking at is an 08 318d Edition MSport, they chucked in Bus Nav, Bluetooth, 18" BBS Alloys and Leather. This is all for just shy of £20k

marriedblonde · 12-08-2008, 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BC4J

Business nav is not the business. Spend the dough & go with Pro.

Or better yet safe you cash and go with Tomtom/Garmin...

creepy coupe · 12-08-2008, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by marriedblonde

Or better yet safe you cash and go with Tomtom/Garmin...

I tend to agree with that, and IMHO the second hump in the 3 series spoils the look.

dxb335d · 12-08-2008, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by marriedblonde

Or better yet safe you cash and go with Tomtom/Garmin...

Looks gash though, the I-drive/Nav screen looks really good in the dash.

dar2008 · 12-08-2008, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by creepy coupe

I tend to agree with that, and IMHO the second hump in the 3 series spoils the look.

marriedblonde · 12-08-2008, 08:31 AM

Yes agreed the tomtom doesn't look as good but you get a better system for £200 and unless you need it all the time (I don't) having it stck to the dash for a few hours isn't the end of the world.

On the plus side the BM system seems alot better than the command system fitted to the wifes car, even upgraded to the latest dvd it is still pants.

J.

dxb335d · 12-08-2008, 08:43 AM

I like the look of the dash with Nav, it looks expensive and cool. You also have so much you can do with it. So its not just a Nav system. Its the whole caboodle.

dar2008 · 12-08-2008, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dxb335d

I like the look of the dash with Nav, it looks expensive and cool. You also have so much you can do with it. So its not just a Nav system. Its the whole caboodle.

Precisely, it's very useful. How else could you...

List/view your iPod/Hard disc music collection.
View track information on DAB radio
View RSS / Internet pages
View who's calling your mobile
View/traverse your mobile address book
And of course the integrated SatNav

... I just don't understand why people get the hump with it, and as for saying it 'spoils the look', I totally disagree.

dxb335d · 12-08-2008, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dar2008

Precisely, it's very useful. How else could you...

List/view your iPod/Hard disc music collection.
View track information on DAB radio
View RSS / Internet pages
View who's calling your mobile
View/traverse your mobile address book
And of course the integrated SatNav

... I just don't understand why people get the hump with it, and as for saying it 'spoils the look', I totally disagree.

im very much with you, it does look the BOWLACKS.

BC4J · 12-08-2008, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dxb335d

im very much with you, it does look the BOWLACKS.

Totally agree. Without it the dash looks empty.

marriedblonde · 12-08-2008, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dar2008

Precisely, it's very useful. How else could you...

List/view your iPod/Hard disc music collection.
View track information on DAB radio
View RSS / Internet pages
View who's calling your mobile
View/traverse your mobile address book
And of course the integrated SatNav

... I just don't understand why people get the hump with it, and as for saying it 'spoils the look', I totally disagree.

How on earth do the people with out the i-drive cope... It must be a real struggle each time they drive their cars!

creepy coupe · 12-08-2008, 11:28 AM

I have to say I wouldn't pay £2k for it, my used 1er came with it and I suppose I paid a bit more that the equivalent car without it, had I bought new I'd have left it off the list.

clivem2 · 12-08-2008, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by marriedblonde

How on earth do the people with out the i-drive cope... It must be a real struggle each time they drive their cars!

I just don't need all that extra stuff and I do find that on the few occasions I need a nav system my wife's TomTom or Route66 (which I have on my mobile) are great and I can use them in any car or walking around town - especially Route66 on my mobile - 60 quid for Western European navigation, a bit cheaper than BMW!

clivem2 · 12-08-2008, 11:45 AM

Also...I don't believe the stories about cars being hard to shift without satnav. If you look at leasing you find that a very few extras are good value as they cost-in improved residuals, on BMWs this includes auto and leather. It does not include satnav The days of in-built satnav are seriously numbered, this is why BMW are pushing i-drive with it so they cross-subsidise each other. The problem is that due to model development times the satnavs from the carmakers whilst having big screens, are not the best functionally. In addition you don't need a big screen for a nav system as you can't take in all the info when driving....£2,000 vs £60.....

xenon · 12-08-2008, 11:51 AM

Plus you can do everything on that list bar the satnav and internet without i-Drive, if you have Bluetooth and Prof Audio.

The new HD i-drive does look great, but £2k? Do me a favour.

creepy coupe · 12-08-2008, 11:53 AM

The right colour and leather were to two most important 3 series extra's which made a difference on residuals, is what I was told.

dxb335d · 12-08-2008, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clivem2

Also...I don't believe the stories about cars being hard to shift without satnav. If you look at leasing you find that a very few extras are good value as they cost-in improved residuals, on BMWs this includes auto and leather. It does not include satnav The days of in-built satnav are seriously numbered, this is why BMW are pushing i-drive with it so they cross-subsidise each other. The problem is that due to model development times the satnavs from the carmakers whilst having big screens, are not the best functionally. In addition you don't need a big screen for a nav system as you can't take in all the info when driving....£2,000 vs £60.....

your wrong though mate, I would not even entertain a used E9X without it...

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fyonn Private 1 Rep 53 Posts Drives: 2006 BMW 330d Saloon Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Manchester, UK iTrader: (0)	I think the differences are as follows: 1 disc drive instead of two, so you can't have both a nav disc and a CD in at the same time. you either keep a map disc in at all times and use the radio, or a CD changer, or I think you can calculate a route and then take the disc out and put a music CD in, and it'll "remember" the route. 4:3 display, instead of the widescreen display that the professional nav has, so no splitscreen viewing mode. early business nav systems only supported the arrow display, with no moving map display. I think that later business systems allowed a choice between arrow view and moving map view I think that business nav doesn't come with voice activation. not sure about other differences. dave
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marriedblonde Lieutenant 12 Rep 434 Posts Drives: e92 330 sport Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sunny south coast iTrader: (0)	Yes agreed the tomtom doesn't look as good but you get a better system for £200 and unless you need it all the time (I don't) having it stck to the dash for a few hours isn't the end of the world. On the plus side the BM system seems alot better than the command system fitted to the wifes car, even upgraded to the latest dvd it is still pants. J.
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