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[JRwagon]

This question might be asked way to often. But can't find anything regarding my setup.

Since a few weeks owner of a 320i automatic. Had some terrible wheels on it so decided to swap em out for Style 594's (OEM x6)

It has 255/35/19 Ps4 all around. But it rubs badly on the fenders. not so much or almost none on the inner wheel wells. Pokes in the front quite a bit, but rear's are flush with room to spare.

Wheel specs: 9J Et 15 on all 4.

So is there a tyre that will fit without rolling the fenders on these offsets?

[mrjimyjohn]

The front fenders are plastic and cant be rolled. Sorry to say I don’t think you will make these will work on the front.

Edit - are you sure theyre et15 all around? OEM X6 wheels are most likely stggered, so you might be able to swap your front and rears

[Frankenstein_135]

Hello fellow wagon owner! I have a LCI wagon but I am not qualified to offer any recommendation because I've never tried any 19-inch wheels. Maybe look into 245/30/19 tires and also I've heard that Continentals typically have a narrower sidewall shoulder, but again take my suggestion with a grain of salt.

I am running a 18x9 ET31 wheels and 255/35/18 tires, and the front is exactly flush with the fender. So I'm afraid that making your wheel spec work without rolling fenders or crazy camber is... slim.

[JRwagon]

Originally Posted by mrjimyjohn

The front fenders are plastic and cant be rolled. Sorry to say I don’t think you will make these will work on the front.

Edit - are you sure theyre et15 all around? OEM X6 wheels are most likely stggered, so you might be able to swap your front and rears

Last time i checked the fenders were made out of some kind of metal. They're lightweight tho.

Pretty sure they're et15 all around according to the bmw number on the inside. There is a et45 option, but i think that would push the wheels out even further if i understand the ET sizes correctly.

Edit: it's et48, and i completely mis understood et values.

[JRwagon]

Originally Posted by Frankenstein_135

Hello fellow wagon owner! I have a LCI wagon but I am not qualified to offer any recommendation because I've never tried any 19-inch wheels. Maybe look into 245/30/19 tires and also I've heard that Continentals typically have a narrower sidewall shoulder, but again take my suggestion with a grain of salt.

I am running a 18x9 ET31 wheels and 255/35/18 tires, and the front is exactly flush with the fender. So I'm afraid that making your wheel spec work without rolling fenders or crazy camber is... slim.

I already was thinking to find myself some tires in those sizes. Luckily i have a great acces to tires new/used.

I got 1 more size to play with but those are et46(or45), but that would push them even more out if i'm not mistaken. Little poke is ok with me, as long i dont use the tires to automaticly roll the fenders

Crazy camber is a bit of a no go, it doesnt look good for me on a e90/91 etc

Edit: it's et48, and i completely mis understood et values.

[Frankenstein_135]

Originally Posted by JRwagon

I already was thinking to find myself some tires in those sizes. Luckily i have a great acces to tires new/used.

I got 1 more size to play with but those are et46(or45), but that would push them even more out if i'm not mistaken. Little poke is ok with me, as long i dont use the tires to automaticly roll the fenders

Crazy camber is a bit of a no go, it doesnt look good for me on a e90/91 etc

Edit: it's et48, and i completely mis understood et values.

Something seems off... Compared to an ET31, a ET48 wheel should be more inwards, not poking out more. Since my ET31 wheels are flush with the fenders and your are poking out, and we both have 9J width, you must have a lower offset than ET31. I think the ET15 in your original post makes more sense - in that your wheel will stick out about 16mm compared to mine. I'm not too familiar with all the OE wheel specs, but something lower than ET31 makes more sense to me.

[Frankenstein_135]

Originally Posted by JRwagon

I already was thinking to find myself some tires in those sizes. Luckily i have a great acces to tires new/used.

I got 1 more size to play with but those are et46(or45), but that would push them even more out if i'm not mistaken. Little poke is ok with me, as long i dont use the tires to automaticly roll the fenders

Crazy camber is a bit of a no go, it doesnt look good for me on a e90/91 etc

Edit: it's et48, and i completely mis understood et values.

Originally Posted by Frankenstein_135

Something seems off... Compared to an ET31, a ET48 wheel should be more inwards, not poking out more. Since my ET31 wheels are flush with the fenders and your are poking out, and we both have 9J width, you must have a lower offset than ET31. I think the ET15 in your original post makes more sense - in that your wheel will stick out about 16mm compared to mine. I'm not too familiar with all the OE wheel specs, but something lower than ET31 makes more sense to me.

One more thing - if you mean that you also have access to a set of ET48 wheels in addition to the ET15 wheels, then the ET48 wheels should be more inward. However, watch out for the rim width and inside (strut) clearance. On my ET31 J9 wheel, there is barely any inside clearance, maybe 10 mm. So a ET48 J9 wheel will almost certainly run into clearance issues on the inside.

[M-technik-3]

According to a bmw wheel site they are staggered rears are et 18 and fronts are et 48

Neither is conducive to 3 Series E9X

[JRwagon]

Originally Posted by Frankenstein_135

One more thing - if you mean that you also have access to a set of ET48 wheels in addition to the ET15 wheels, then the ET48 wheels should be more inward. However, watch out for the rim width and inside (strut) clearance. On my ET31 J9 wheel, there is barely any inside clearance, maybe 10 mm. So a ET48 J9 wheel will almost certainly run into clearance issues on the inside.

The ET48 is out of the window anyway, just like you i have maybe 10mm on a good day to the strut. It might work with a spacer but not sure about that.

No i dont have access to a set of et48 wheels, however i got tons of bmw sets laying at work so there might be actually one. Was more talking about tires

[JRwagon]

Originally Posted by M-technik-3

According to a bmw wheel site they are staggered rears are et 18 and fronts are et 48

Neither is conducive to 3 Series E9X

Correct, but the wheels itself look absoluty awesome under a E9X, On the quest to make em fit. Rears fit absolutely perfect.

[autoart]

Have you pulled the pin on the top of the strut and moved in to give yourself more room?

[JRwagon]

Originally Posted by autoart

Have you pulled the pin on the top of the strut and moved in to give yourself more room?

Not yet, but i dont think it will give the clearance it need. Since it only rubs when going over bumps too fast.

[JRwagon]

Have done the pin delete on top of the strut tower, did not make a difference rubbing wise. it's steering way better tho!

Might try a lower & less wide tyre upfront. Now in the search of someone who's willing to roll my fenders. Already rubbed trough the fender liner after 400km's

[Mavus]

Originally Posted by JRwagon

Have done the pin delete on top of the strut tower, did not make a difference rubbing wise. it's steering way better tho!

Might try a lower & less wide tyre upfront. Now in the search of someone who's willing to roll my fenders. Already rubbed trough the fender liner after 400km's

you can do couple of things to help a bit but et15 in front requires neg camber.

get m3 arms and adjust camber to max -1.3. this is not much and it will look fine while providing more grip in turns. no impact on tire wear.

the second step is to decrease front tire to 235. After both mods are done you may still get some rubbing but it should tuck the top of the tire in the fender.

the very last option is camber plates and -2.5-3 camber.

[Frankenstein_135]

Originally Posted by Mavus

you can do couple of things to help a bit but et15 in front requires neg camber.

get m3 arms and adjust camber to max -1.3. this is not much and it will look fine while providing more grip in turns. no impact on tire wear.

the second step is to decrease front tire to 235. After both mods are done you may still get some rubbing but it should tuck the top of the tire in the fender.

the very last option is camber plates and -2.5-3 camber.

If this works it may not be a bad solution. The Miata in my photo is running a -1.5 camber or thereabout and I don't notice it at all.

That's not considering cost, amount of work involved, alignment, etc.

[Mavus]

Originally Posted by Frankenstein_135

If this works it may not be a bad solution. The Miata in my photo is running a -1.5 camber or thereabout and I don't notice it at all.

That's not considering cost, amount of work involved, alignment, etc.

this will decrease the poke on the top of tire. no guarantee it will eliminate rubbing completely.

fender roll is not a solution.

you can either replace wheels or try those two mods.

gl

[JRwagon]

Originally Posted by Mavus

you can do couple of things to help a bit but et15 in front requires neg camber.

get m3 arms and adjust camber to max -1.3. this is not much and it will look fine while providing more grip in turns. no impact on tire wear.

the second step is to decrease front tire to 235. After both mods are done you may still get some rubbing but it should tuck the top of the tire in the fender.

the very last option is camber plates and -2.5-3 camber.

I like the thinking of m3 arms and other parts that are needed to do this, but it's my daily afterall, got a other 6cyl project on the side so i'm kinda willing to skip this process of modifying, dont need 2 projects at this moment in time and it's still a 320i with no grunt to get forwards :P

I'm going to try some different tyres, only to find the correct size. I know for a fact there are tons of 225/40 or 35 tyres laying abouts, but that will stretch badly on a 9J rim.

Keep you posted , or find a ET48 rim, and use some spacers. (wich i have no disbelieve in since i run 60mm on front axle on my project for already 2 years and not single wheel bearing let go)

[JRwagon]

Big update!

9J et18 works with 225/35/19, no rubbing at all. It's quite stretched tho so i'm going to experiment with 235/35/19 tyres.

Must clarify this on stock suspesion, so have no clue if it will fit when you lowered the car.

[n55powered]

Nice car, man I always loved the wagon. FWIW, I’m running ET13 on my e92 with the 225 but they are 18” so 225/40. Same as you though, with stock suspension

[JRwagon]

Originally Posted by n55powered

Nice car, man I always loved the wagon. FWIW, I’m running ET13 on my e92 with the 225 but they are 18” so 225/40. Same as you though, with stock suspension

225/40/18 is a very common size! Just a normal 7,5/8J width tire size.
Been running it as daily now, 35 high on a 255 in the rear is a bit much, keeps me from.speeding over speedbumps tho

[n55powered]

Nice car, man I always loved the wagon. FWIW, I’m running ET13 on my e92 with the 225 but they are 18” so 225/40. Same as you though, with stock suspension

[whyzee125]

Originally Posted by JRwagon

This question might be asked way to often. But can't find anything regarding my setup.

Since a few weeks owner of a 320i automatic. Had some terrible wheels on it so decided to swap em out for Style 594's (OEM x6)

It has 255/35/19 Ps4 all around. But it rubs badly on the fenders. not so much or almost none on the inner wheel wells. Pokes in the front quite a bit, but rear's are flush with room to spare.

Wheel specs: 9J Et 15 on all 4.

So is there a tyre that will fit without rolling the fenders on these offsets?

That's actually not as aggressive as I thought it'd be for that offset. I'd get some Dinan camber plates, slide struts/plates all the way in, and do the bumper bracket mod. You should have very minimal rubbing after that.