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      04-30-2022, 03:36 PM   #1
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Cold Start Issues

Hey guys, Ive got a 2009 E92 with a Speedtech bottom mount kit. Full E85 with port injection.

Ive been having O2 issues whenever my car cold starts. When I start it, both AFR readings start off normal. After about 5-10 seconds Bank 1 AFR shoots up to 40+ and keeps climbing. It causes the car to sound like its only running on 3 cylinders and its irritating because I cant let the car sit and warm up.

Once i start driving, the only way i can get it to stop misfiring is if I let off the throttle and coast in gear to reset the sensors. Bank 1 AFR maxes out as usual (234.95) and my idle issues go away completely, and it never comes back for the remainder of the drive. Bank 2 however doesn't max out at all, it only gets up to about 170ish which is really odd to me also. I've tried resetting Lambda & Idle adaptions multiple times and that doesn't fix it either.

These are usually the codes I get while idling:
29E0: Mixture Control
2A2B: Mixture Control

These are random codes I'll get after driving every now and then:
2C7B: Oxygen sensor after cat converter: Signal
2C7C: Oxygen sensor after cat converter: Signal
2CA8: Oxygen sensor after cat Function
2AC8: Oxygen Sensor heater after catalytic converter Function

I have replaced all four O2 sensors about 2 months ago with brand new NTK sensors, so they have less than 2k miles. Me personally I'm leaning towards bad sensors again but I cant even narrow it down to which ones are bad. Anyone have advice on what it could be?

Cold start data log: https://datazap.me/u/zlewis819/o2-se...16-17-22-23-24
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bad sensors mine were shot out the box I'm gonna stick with Bosch and use the warranty when they fail
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bad sensors mine were shot out the box I'm gonna stick with Bosch and use the warranty when they fail
I'm leaning towards bad sensors as well.. I figured NTK's would be better for single turbo but sticking with OEM is probably the way to go and get the warranty on fcp
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bad sensors mine were shot out the box I'm gonna stick with Bosch and use the warranty when they fail
I'm leaning towards bad sensors as well.. I figured NTK's would be better for single turbo but sticking with OEM is probably the way to go and get the warranty on fcp
That's exactly why I got the ntk for my single but I had issues with the car and just installed them to see if it was an 02 issue. They would always stick lean. changed them out after 3 days with my old sensors and the downpipe and turbo was covered in soot from the dme dumping so much fuel
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bad sensors mine were shot out the box I'm gonna stick with Bosch and use the warranty when they fail
I'm leaning towards bad sensors as well.. I figured NTK's would be better for single turbo but sticking with OEM is probably the way to go and get the warranty on fcp
That's exactly why I got the ntk for my single but I had issues with the car and just installed them to see if it was an 02 issue. They would always stick lean. changed them out after 3 days with my old sensors and the downpipe and turbo was covered in soot from the dme dumping so much fuel
Makes sense, thanks man I guess I'll go order some Bosch ones and get those trash sensors out the car
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