UUC clutch stop :(

SixBanger · 05-06-2006, 12:21 AM

I bought one of there bad boy clutch stops and just realized that I dont see a clutch stop. WTF!! WHy'd they tell me it would work?
Myles

Driv3r · 05-06-2006, 12:22 AM

hahaha yes, i had the same problem as you senor, there is no clutch stop on this car, i hate the way BMW is going.......

Driv3r · 05-06-2006, 12:22 AM

well there might be one, but it would be higher inse the black box thing....i dont know, hopefully e90fleet would chime in........

SixBanger · 05-06-2006, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Driv3r

well there might be one, but it would be higher inse the black box thing....i dont know, hopefully e90fleet would chime in........

I would think so too , but its just really hard to work in a very small area that I assumed its impossible. '

330m · 05-06-2006, 07:10 AM

WTF is a clutch stop???

SixBanger · 05-06-2006, 07:16 AM

It shortens clutch distance. Gets rid of the extra distance in travel. Same concept as short shifter.

larryn · 05-06-2006, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 330m

WTF is a clutch stop???

It's a pad that resides behind your clutch pedal, that your clutch arm stops against at full depression.

In the e46, you could install a taller one, making the clutch travel up to 2" shorter. There was dead space on the full depression, which was unneeded.

There is no equivilent on the e90s. It has a clutch stop built onto the back of the pedal arm itself, as seen in this picture (look at item #9):

330m · 05-06-2006, 07:27 AM

??

Do you have short legs?

larryn · 05-06-2006, 07:33 AM

No... it's for being able to shift faster, and get on the gas faster.

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Originally Posted by UUC website

The advent of an adjustable clutch stop lets the driver specifically set the ideal point of reference where the clutch pedal stops just after the clutch mechanism disengages. Therefore, once set properly, the gas pedal may be applied immediately after the clutch pedal is released.

This lets the driver shift with one less item to worry about, actually forcing them to become smoother. The clutch stop works on many BMWs (including the new E46 modelswith slight modification to the clutch-sensor switch).

330m · 05-06-2006, 07:43 AM

Maybe i'm missing something? (I've only ever driven manuals)

How can it let you shift faster? you don't depress a clutch fully during a moving shift anyway, only when selecting 1st or reverse from stationary.

I would have thought that raising the stop would just make 1st/reverse stressful for the box due to clutch drag.

larryn · 05-06-2006, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 330m

Maybe i'm missing something? (I've only ever driven manuals)

How can it let you shift faster?

Read the quote from my previous post. It answered every one of your subsequent questions.

shimshimhada · 05-06-2006, 10:26 AM

Just glue a rubber block behind your clutch pedal.

ALPINE6SPD · 05-06-2006, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by shimshimhada

Just glue a rubber block behind your clutch pedal.

E90330iS · 05-06-2006, 12:59 PM

lol.. people really do that for their E46..

325Driver · 05-06-2006, 02:28 PM

Even if there was a clutch stop to be replaced in the E90s it would make no difference as the clutch needs to be depressed fully to the floor in order to start the car. The E46s required a modification to be done in order to use the UUC clutch stop that would trick the clutch sensor switch into thinking the pedal was fully depressed to the floor.

larryn · 05-06-2006, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 325Driver

Even if there was a clutch stop to be replaced in the E90s it would make no difference as the clutch needs to be depressed fully to the floor in order to start the car. The E46s required a modification to be done in order to use the UUC clutch stop that would trick the clutch sensor switch into thinking the pedal was fully depressed to the floor.

I had aftermarket clutch stops installed on both of the e46's I've owned. Neither needed a modification to the clutch pedal position sensor. It is a great/cheap modification for those cars, as anybody that has installed one can verify. There was far too much clutch pedal travel prior to installing the stop. The bottom 2" of travel was not needed.

ynotony · 05-06-2006, 03:15 PM

I remember when I installed a clutch stop in my e36. Totally changed my driving experience (for the better). Cost like 50 cents to make and just screwed in. Now though, bmw makes things harder.

325Driver · 05-06-2006, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by lni

I had aftermarket clutch stops installed on both of the e46's I've owned. Neither needed a modification to the clutch pedal position sensor. It is a great/cheap modification for those cars, as anybody that has installed one can verify. There was far too much clutch pedal travel prior to installing the stop. The bottom 2" of travel was not needed.

I guess you were a randomly chosen winner to have your E46s be shipped without the clutch sensor. I know on mine that unless the clutch pedal was depressed fully to the floor the car would not start under any circumstances.

larryn · 05-07-2006, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 325Driver

I guess you were a randomly chosen winner to have your E46s be shipped without the clutch sensor. I know on mine that unless the clutch pedal was depressed fully to the floor the car would not start under any circumstances.

I've also installed them, during tech sessions held at my house, in at least 4 other cars. None of those cars needed modification to the pedal position sensor either. They all had the sensor, but it only activated (wouldn't allow the car to start) at about 1.5" - 2" off the floor.

Seems as though you may be the winner, if yours was sensing the clutch pedal was all the way to the floor, or they changed it for 2004+ cars. All the cars I installed it on were 1999-2003.

spacedogg · 07-03-2007, 01:25 AM

Reviving old thread...thinking about getting a clutch stop or a clutch stop like device...

Consensus seems to be that UUC Clutch Stop will not work on the E90...anyone figure out any clever mods/DIY to get around this?

Mr. 5 · 07-03-2007, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by spacedogg

Reviving old thread...thinking about getting a clutch stop or a clutch stop like device...

Consensus seems to be that UUC Clutch Stop will not work on the E90...anyone figure out any clever mods/DIY to get around this?

I'm sure there is a way around this. I bet there's a switch located by the pedal so when it is pushed in the switch is out and then knows the clutch is pushed in. Just take the swich off so it thinks that the clutch is pressed in all the time.

I had a clutch stop on my M3. I am one of those that push in the clutch all the way when I shift and the clutch stop made it great to shorten shifts.

heel and toe · 08-09-2007, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by spacedogg

Reviving old thread...thinking about getting a clutch stop or a clutch stop like device...

Consensus seems to be that UUC Clutch Stop will not work on the E90...anyone figure out any clever mods/DIY to get around this?

I just got an E90 - my previous car was an E36 with the UUC clutch stop - the E90 clutch is driving me crazy! We need to find a solution! Does anyone know the details of the clutch switch?

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330m First Lieutenant 8 Rep 364 Posts Drives: 330i Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Manchester iTrader: (0)	Maybe i'm missing something? (I've only ever driven manuals) How can it let you shift faster? you don't depress a clutch fully during a moving shift anyway, only when selecting 1st or reverse from stationary. I would have thought that raising the stop would just make 1st/reverse stressful for the box due to clutch drag. __________________ *330i M-sport* SG + black leather :rocks:
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spacedogg Colonel 207 Rep 2,816 Posts Drives: Debadged Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC iTrader: (0)	Reviving old thread...thinking about getting a clutch stop or a clutch stop like device... Consensus seems to be that UUC Clutch Stop will not work on the E90...anyone figure out any clever mods/DIY to get around this? Last edited by spacedogg; 07-03-2007 at 01:43 AM..
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