sport package performance tires in winter (~1-2 inches)

ilidon · 12-11-2008, 12:52 PM

guys, can you live through an inch to 2 inches of snow using performance tires in winter? thanks!

5050punk · 12-11-2008, 12:55 PM

Performance tires as in summer tires? Good luck. Will you get better traction with winter tires? Yes.

Recommendation: Buy winter tires

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SG333E · 12-11-2008, 12:55 PM

I just tried it the other night on my way to get my snows installed. It was very difficult to get moving from a stop on the slightest incline. Stopping is horrible. There are several sets of snows for sale here, just do it. Plus summer tires ride like crap when they are cold.

CirrusSR22 · 12-11-2008, 12:56 PM

Nope.

Tag · 12-11-2008, 12:59 PM

This topic has been beaten to death.

next time.

And if you value your life and that of others for the love of God either get some snow tires or stay off the freakin road.

2kaccordocoupe · 12-11-2008, 12:59 PM

OP you live in NYC, you need snow tires.

DrGP · 12-11-2008, 12:59 PM

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Not even with 6 wheel drive! MAYBE with a really good set of All Season tires. BUT it would have to be a very dry snow. Oh, I forgot that you might actually want to stop or go around a corner. NO!

DrGP · 12-11-2008, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 2kaccordocoupe

OP you live in NYC, you need snow tires.

Actually he could get around in NYC with all season tires during small snowfalls, but not very well or safely.

ilidon · 12-11-2008, 01:08 PM

ah ok. will do. was just wondering if its possible but i think not lol. thanks!

nicknaz · 12-11-2008, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilidon

guys, can you live through an inch to 2 inches of snow using performance tires in winter? thanks!

You "can" but you are likely to crash or get stuck

Get winter tires before the first snow hits.

Staszek · 12-11-2008, 01:16 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

You wont be able to move, you shouldnt even be driving those tires in the rain at low temps.

The same compounds that make summer tires so great and sticky in the summer are the compounds that freeze in the winter making it like ice on ice.

ragingclue · 12-11-2008, 01:18 PM

It's impossible to move at all with any sort of control with snow/ice on the ground if you keep the summer tires on, but it's pretty fun trying.

ATSR · 12-11-2008, 01:21 PM

My car came with summer tires (got it in Denver in December) and I almost crashed when driving from the dealer to my house. Don't even think about using summer tires in winter conditions. You WILL crash.

LI E90 · 12-11-2008, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilidon

guys, can you live through an inch to 2 inches of snow using performance tires in winter? thanks!

as a fellow New Yorker I can answer this from first hand personal experience.

The answer is NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooo, last year
(my first winter with the car) it snowed 3x first day of snow fall , was a light snow maybe an inch, the car could not make it around the block.

second time it snowed I was caught off guard, and it snowed about 6" I drove 10 miles an hour int he right lane like I was an 85 year old women, I have never been more scared in a car.

that being said, usually around here by the next day the snow is gone and the roads are clean, so if you can avoid driving on the days it snows, you should be okay, otherwise get snow tires!

borisivan · 12-11-2008, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Staszek

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

You wont be able to move, you shouldnt even be driving those tires in the rain at low temps.

No need to say "in the rain" in that sentence. It is VERY dangerous to drive on DRY roads with performance tires, assuming it's cold enough, as the tire loses it's flexibility.

e93burner · 12-11-2008, 02:25 PM

Go either snows or...

328skidpad · 12-11-2008, 02:39 PM

Even as a an experienced driver in snow that enjoys driving in snow and loves challenges, I was very scared last week when there was .5 inch of snow on the ground driving 10 miles to my home (4K miles on tires). I first thought that the traction control would take care of me but it seemed that the traction control was confused because there was almost no grip.

So even if you are a rally car driver, I would not try driving in .5 inches of snow. As noted, the tire coupound becomes very hard and is less traction as the camber and cast of the wheel changes when you turn the steering wheel.

335 coupe sports package 18 Mich Pilots RFT's

E90ice · 12-11-2008, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrGP

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Not even with 6 wheel drive! MAYBE with a really good set of All Season tires. BUT it would have to be a very dry snow. Oh, I forgot that you might actually want to stop or go around a corner. NO!

Not even with 6 wheel drive?
Mine only has 4 and it did great in the snow with Michelin Pilot Sports.
And I was doing donuts in the parking lot like there was no tomorrow.

doggiedog · 12-11-2008, 02:49 PM

Like everyone else said, no way.

I had summer performance tires on my car and wouldn't be able to move a foot without sliding laterally. They were like ice hockey pucks. Even the all season tires I had were bad. I could move in straight lines most of the time but on inclines, forget it. In fact, one time I did a 360 on the road at about 25mph. Fortunately, there was no one near me. These were on Yokohama Advans.

e90fanatic · 12-11-2008, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilidon

guys, can you live through an inch to 2 inches of snow using performance tires in winter? thanks!

no you cant. i tried and it wasnt fun. no accidents (knock on wood) but i couldnt get out of a parking spot . even with .5 inch of snow, your tires cant get grip

mmm def · 12-11-2008, 02:50 PM

Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!

e90fanatic · 12-11-2008, 02:51 PM

btw to those that have the 335i or any RWD car...start your car in 3rd gear and accelerate SLOWLY!

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Tag this is the way 20609 Rep 9,092 Posts Drives: N-1 starfighter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chicago iTrader: (3)	This topic has been beaten to death. next time. And if you value your life and that of others for the love of God either get some snow tires or stay off the freakin road.
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DrGP Lieutenant Colonel 144 Rep 1,914 Posts Drives: Sapphire 335i coupe Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: SE, PA iTrader: (0)	NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Not even with 6 wheel drive! MAYBE with a really good set of All Season tires. BUT it would have to be a very dry snow. Oh, I forgot that you might actually want to stop or go around a corner. NO!
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ilidon Major 60 Rep 1,036 Posts Drives: F13 M6 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: L.I., NY iTrader: (10) Garage List 2009 335i [7.00]	ah ok. will do. was just wondering if its possible but i think not lol. thanks!
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ATSR Captain 45 Rep 852 Posts Drives: 1977 Honda Civic Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Wellington, FL iTrader: (0)	My car came with summer tires (got it in Denver in December) and I almost crashed when driving from the dealer to my house. Don't even think about using summer tires in winter conditions. You WILL crash.
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328skidpad Lieutenant 57 Rep 495 Posts Drives: 328xi e350 Z4M X3 M40 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Princeton NJ iTrader: (0)	Even as a an experienced driver in snow that enjoys driving in snow and loves challenges, I was very scared last week when there was .5 inch of snow on the ground driving 10 miles to my home (4K miles on tires). I first thought that the traction control would take care of me but it seemed that the traction control was confused because there was almost no grip. So even if you are a rally car driver, I would not try driving in .5 inches of snow. As noted, the tire coupound becomes very hard and is less traction as the camber and cast of the wheel changes when you turn the steering wheel. 335 coupe sports package 18 Mich Pilots RFT's
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