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      12-14-2008, 09:45 AM   #1
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V710's on an E92 xi...help!

Can anyone confirm whether this will work ok on a E92 xi with sport package?

19” VMR Silver V710 Details:
Front Size & Offset: 19x8.5 ET35
Rear Size & Offset: 19x9.5 ET33
Front Tire: Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position 235/35/19
Rear Tire: Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position 275/30/19

Bridgestone's site says the OD's are as follows:

275/30R19 OD = 25.6
235/35R19 OD = 25.5

Also, any other tire brand/model recommendations would be appreciated. Looking for all-season/high performance


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The 275 in the back has the potential to rub slightly under full load or extreme bumps.
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      12-14-2008, 10:55 AM   #3
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Thanks Kev,

I was afraid of that. Do you recommend that I find a different tire that is offered in a 265? Any suggestions?

Thanks again

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      12-14-2008, 11:55 AM   #4
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Kev's right - you'll need a 235/265 tire set in order to prevent rubbing, Bridgestone does offer a matched set in these sizes also.

As for the V710s, let me know when you're ready.
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I agree, go with the 265 rears. The 275s may rub if you lower the car or drive with passengers.
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      12-14-2008, 05:01 PM   #6
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Oh, I'm ready...just need to figure out the tire thing.

I had RE960's on my Mini Cooper S and liked them pretty well. Can anyone recomend something that comes in a 265?

I'll hit the web and see what else I can dig up.

These forums Rock! So much good info and helpful people.

If any vendors want to PM me quotes, please do

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      12-16-2008, 11:09 AM   #8
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Ugh, this tire selection thing is driving me crazy!

I liked the RE960's due to the fact that they are all-season. While I don't expect to drive in snow too much in this car (have an SUV also), I understand that the "summer" tires use compounds that turn into slippery, hard bricks when driving in cold weather. Is this true?

I haven't been able to find any other high performance all-season tires in 265/35/19.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks all!
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Ugh, this tire selection thing is driving me crazy!

I liked the RE960's due to the fact that they are all-season. While I don't expect to drive in snow too much in this car (have an SUV also), I understand that the "summer" tires use compounds that turn into slippery, hard bricks when driving in cold weather. Is this true?

I haven't been able to find any other high performance all-season tires in 265/35/19.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks all!
The General UHPs are offered in these sizes and are All-Season, but I wouldn't necessarily call them a high-performance tire.
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Thanks Tom, I hadn't seen those. I'll do some research...

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FYI, this is what tire rack says about the generals....

While meeting minimum tread design standards to be "M+S" branded, the Exclaim UHP is designed to provide high levels of traction, response and control in dry conditions, along with superior hydroplaning resistance in wet conditions. We do not suggest Exclaim UHP tires be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice.

M&S rating has to do with the amount of void space in the tread, not the compound.

i would look elsewhere

the pirelli pzero nero M&S is available in 235 and 275. maybe a light fender roll? you might not rub with the pirellis, even without the fender roll, they have a narrower sectional width than most other 275s. smaller than some 265s as well at 10.6"

pirelli M&S 275/30/19 sectional width= 10.6

ex:
goodyear F1 asymmetric 265/30/19 sectional width =10.7
goodyear F1 asymmetric 275/30/19 sectional width =10.9
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Thanks for the info...

I've actually been looking that width stuff up...

Should I be looking at "section width" or "tread width"? You're definitely right that some tires run narrower "for their size" than others.

The RE960's seem to run a little narrow too. I'll check that out at bit more. I had not looked at the Perelli's, good find!

I wish I knew someone that lived near me (Lancaster, PA) that had a fender roller, LOL.

I looked it up and they cost about $225-$250.

Thanks again for the info...the tire quest continues!
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Thanks for the info...

I've actually been looking that width stuff up...
Should I be looking at "section width" or "tread width"? You're definitely right that some tires run narrower "for their size" than others.

The RE960's seem to run a little narrow too. I'll check that out at bit more. I had not looked at the Perelli's, good find!

I wish I knew someone that lived near me (Lancaster, PA) that had a fender roller, LOL.

I looked it up and they cost about $225-$250.

Thanks again for the info...the tire quest continues!
you can rent a fender rolling kit pretty cheap, about 50 bucks + S&H if there's noone nearby that has one. DO NOT ROLL THE FRONT FENDERS ON AN E92 OR E93. they're made of composite (plastic)
http://www.esetuning.com/product-p/f...ler-rental.htm


you want to look at:

Section Width

A tire's section width (also called "cross section width") is the measurement of the tire's width from its inner sidewall to its outer sidewall (excluding any protective ribs, decorations or raised letters) at the widest point. This measurement is made without any load placed upon the tire and after the tire has been properly mounted on its industry assigned measuring rim and has been inflated and reset to its test pressure after 24 hours.

Because a tire's section width is influenced by the width of the rim upon which the tire is mounted, the correct industry assigned measuring rim width for the tire size being measured must be used.

The width of a tire mounted on a narrow rim would be "narrower" than if the same tire was mounted on a wide rim. NOTE: because the overall diameter of a steel belted radial is determined by the steel belts, there is little, if any, change to the overall diameter of the tire due to differences in rim width.

The industry rule of thumb is that for every 1/2" change in rim width, the tire's section width will correspondingly change by approximately 2/10".


tread width is not as useful as:
The tread width is the distance between the outer edge and the inner edge of the tread of a new tire. However today's radial tires often feature tread designs that incorporate rounded shoulders and there is no industry standard pertaining to "how much" of the rounded shoulders should be included in the tread width measurement. Because of this, it is difficult to accurately compare the tread width differences of one tire brand to another. Tread width measurements are best used when comparing the various tire sizes or lines manufactured by a single tire manufacturer. Several tire manufacturers have chosen not to publish tread width dimensions.

i used to run the pirellis on my S60R, one season. they were a very decent tire, good grip for moderately aggressive driving, very comfortable ride, but i wanted max traction in both the snow and the summer, so i switched to dedicated snows and summers. light snow traction is ok with AWD
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The General UHPs are offered in these sizes and are All-Season, but I wouldn't necessarily call them a high-performance tire.
Why did you just say that General UHP tires are All-Season?
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Why did you just say that General UHP tires are All-Season?
Because they are all-season:

The ultra-high performance you need in all season conditions. This tire features a silica compound for remarkable traction and mileage.


reference: http://www.generaltire.com/tires/T1/Exclaim-UHP
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Holy cow...this stuff will make your head spin!

So now, I'm trying to decide between...

1) a 275 with a smaller section width, so that I can get all-season (RE960's or Perelli Nero)

2) going with a 265 that we know will fit, but won't be all season, unless I go with General's, which some say are crap and most agree aren't really all-season

LOL...what a fiasco!

Ok, so are there any 265's that people feel are reasonably good in wet and perhaps light snow conditions?

What about the Bridgestone RE050 Pole Positions? they have that "uni-T" compound, I think...anyone have experience with those?
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Holy cow...this stuff will make your head spin!

So now, I'm trying to decide between...

1) a 275 with a smaller section width, so that I can get all-season (RE960's or Perelli Nero)

2) going with a 265 that we know will fit, but won't be all season, unless I go with General's, which some say are crap and most agree aren't really all-season

LOL...what a fiasco!

Ok, so are there any 265's that people feel are reasonably good in wet and perhaps light snow conditions?

What about the Bridgestone RE050 Pole Positions? they have that "uni-T" compound, I think...anyone have experience with those?
RE050s are summer tires
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Holy cow...this stuff will make your head spin!

So now, I'm trying to decide between...

1) a 275 with a smaller section width, so that I can get all-season (RE960's or Perelli Nero)

2) going with a 265 that we know will fit, but won't be all season, unless I go with General's, which some say are crap and most agree aren't really all-season

LOL...what a fiasco!

Ok, so are there any 265's that people feel are reasonably good in wet and perhaps light snow conditions?

What about the Bridgestone RE050 Pole Positions? they have that "uni-T" compound, I think...anyone have experience with those?
General Exclaims are actually pretty good in the water, I would say they have one of the better wet grips that I have felt in my car before. The Dunlop SP Sport Maxx has a pretty good wet grip as well.

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