CEL/limp, help me Dx

BlkSapphire · 12-24-2008, 08:42 PM

Help me diagnose my check engine light.

E93, dead stock, the most aggressive "mod" I have is BMW rubber floormats. 6500 miles; changed the oil myself with 0-40 Mobil1 BMW approved at 5000.

I had driven the car about 20 miles, parked, went inside, came out 30 minutes later and got the yellow CEL/limp light. Car was indeed limp; it pretty much felt like the turbos weren't spooling.

Stopped the car and restarted it; the problem went away, car ran normally, felt normal. But the next time I stopped, then restarted it, the starter turned the engine 8 or 9 times before the engine caught; it sounded like a mechanical 'brrrrrap' sound before the engine fired up.

What do you guys think? LPFP? HPFP? Winter coolant issue? Something else? I'll drive it into the dealer to get the code read, but obviously they're closed over the holiday, thought I'd ask you guys instead.

scalbert · 12-24-2008, 09:13 PM

Not enogh details to truly know; no codes, etc. It looks like a trip to the dealer would be in order.

CFM3 · 12-24-2008, 09:36 PM

No way to tell for sure. But with that many miles on it, it sounds like the dealers problem. I'm am sure most people will automatically say HPFP (mine went twice), but without taking it in you can't really be sure.

BlkSapphire · 12-24-2008, 10:00 PM

Yep, dealer will be taking a look at it. Build date is 9/07; model year 2008; sport/premium, if any of that matters.

NinetyEight740 · 12-25-2008, 12:12 AM

its the HPP, almost guarantee it... When the car starts to misfire the wastegate go open from limp mode thus turbos dont spool and car barely moves. Typically you restart it and you are good for 1/2 mile or so and then it does it again.

darkphantom · 12-25-2008, 12:20 AM

Wow, i'm sorry to hear that man. Looks like a long crank, probably HPFP =/

BlkSapphire · 12-26-2008, 08:00 PM

Service advisor thinks HPFP - right on schedule. Thanks for the moral support, guys.

Anyone know if build date 9/07 is under recall for the HPFP?

cn555ic · 12-26-2008, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BlkSapphire

Service advisor thinks HPFP - right on schedule. Thanks for the moral support, guys.

Anyone know if build date 9/07 is under recall for the HPFP?

These damn HPFP just go like that without notice!! THis story is getting really old and you would have thought that BMW already addressed these issues!!

BlkSapphire · 12-27-2008, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by cn555ic

These damn HPFP just go like that without notice!! THis story is getting really old and you would have thought that BMW already addressed these issues!!

Well, thank goodness for e90post at least, I knew exactly what was wrong as soon as I heard the long crank.

12-24-2008, 08:42 PM	#1
BlkSapphire Private 4 Rep 67 Posts Drives: E93 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: 3rd stone from the sun iTrader: (0)	CEL/limp, help me Dx Help me diagnose my check engine light. E93, dead stock, the most aggressive "mod" I have is BMW rubber floormats. 6500 miles; changed the oil myself with 0-40 Mobil1 BMW approved at 5000. I had driven the car about 20 miles, parked, went inside, came out 30 minutes later and got the yellow CEL/limp light. Car was indeed limp; it pretty much felt like the turbos weren't spooling. Stopped the car and restarted it; the problem went away, car ran normally, felt normal. But the next time I stopped, then restarted it, the starter turned the engine 8 or 9 times before the engine caught; it sounded like a mechanical 'brrrrrap' sound before the engine fired up. What do you guys think? LPFP? HPFP? Winter coolant issue? Something else? I'll drive it into the dealer to get the code read, but obviously they're closed over the holiday, thought I'd ask you guys instead.
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12-24-2008, 09:13 PM	#2
scalbert Major General 161 Rep 5,776 Posts Drives: '13 S4, '15 Q7 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Woodstock, GA iTrader: (8)	Not enogh details to truly know; no codes, etc. It looks like a trip to the dealer would be in order.
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12-24-2008, 09:36 PM	#3
CFM3 Second Lieutenant 61 Rep 291 Posts Drives: M6 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: ATL iTrader: (3)	No way to tell for sure. But with that many miles on it, it sounds like the dealers problem. I'm am sure most people will automatically say HPFP (mine went twice), but without taking it in you can't really be sure.
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12-24-2008, 10:00 PM	#4
BlkSapphire Private 4 Rep 67 Posts Drives: E93 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: 3rd stone from the sun iTrader: (0)	Yep, dealer will be taking a look at it. Build date is 9/07; model year 2008; sport/premium, if any of that matters.
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12-25-2008, 12:12 AM	#5
NinetyEight740 Major General 237 Rep 5,691 Posts Drives: 2 - 2013 535i msport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Orange County California iTrader: (2) Garage List 2010 E91 [0.00]	its the HPP, almost guarantee it... When the car starts to misfire the wastegate go open from limp mode thus turbos dont spool and car barely moves. Typically you restart it and you are good for 1/2 mile or so and then it does it again.
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12-25-2008, 12:20 AM	#6
darkphantom Banned 656 Rep 5,945 Posts Drives: E93 335i Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The place for Bimmers iTrader: (4)	Wow, i'm sorry to hear that man. Looks like a long crank, probably HPFP =/
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12-26-2008, 08:00 PM	#7
BlkSapphire Private 4 Rep 67 Posts Drives: E93 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: 3rd stone from the sun iTrader: (0)	Service advisor thinks HPFP - right on schedule. Thanks for the moral support, guys. Anyone know if build date 9/07 is under recall for the HPFP?
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