[jayely1]

Hey, I'm pretty new to the forum and I'm hoping to get a 335i after winter. I was just looking around and saw you can get a used JB2 chip for $100 shipped which you gain 32 lb torque and 8 hp to the wheels. And I saw some videos and it looks like it makes a huge difference. I was just wondering if the dealer would notice this MOD instantly and void your warranty. Or is it something that is easy to hide or take off? Also will you still get a good hp/torque gain running just like 91-93 octane?? Or does it have to higher to be efficient.

[Aurora Bearialis]

if you want something simple and can give you some extra power I would suggest SSTT split second turbo tuner, it's easy to put in and everything it's 40 HP and 50 torque if I remember correctly

[goowatchi]

^+1, the SSTT is easy to install, and diagnostically invisible. On top of that, you do not need high octane gas to feel an effect of 30-40 whp boost...

I'm selling one if you're interested:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=196100

[jayely1]

That's Fucking sweet!!!!!! i would definitely buy that...If I had a 335i first! Thats awesome though. Is there a site with the exact dyno numbers?? Or is there any videos doing a 0-60 test or anything??

[jayely1]

Do you have to take it off if you go to bmw? Or will they not even notice it? You have any pictures of it?? Thanks!

[goowatchi]

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...87&postcount=3

this guy dyno'd it to be 50whp...

here's an install guide: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...t=sstt+install

BMW prob won't even notice it but it takes literally 2 minutes to take it off, so why not...

[Turbo>NA]

JB3 foo

[MCMLXXXIX]

Originally Posted by jayely1

Hey, I'm pretty new to the forum and I'm hoping to get a 335i after winter. I was just looking around and saw you can get a used JB2 chip for $100 shipped which you gain 32 lb torque and 8 hp to the wheels. And I saw some videos and it looks like it makes a huge difference. I was just wondering if the dealer would notice this MOD instantly and void your warranty. Or is it something that is easy to hide or take off? Also will you still get a good hp/torque gain running just like 91-93 octane?? Or does it have to higher to be efficient.

since when does a JB2 add 8 hp? major typo???

[Wake27]

Originally Posted by MCMLXXXIX

since when does a JB2 add 8 hp? major typo???

You wanna correct him then?

[john0213]

i am really surprise to hear that jb2 only adds 8hp... lol

anyways, since you will be getting your car next spring, i would definitely recommend you to stay away from jb2 because most of the jb2 out there is designed for the older ecu type known as pre 29.2.

if you are to run the wrong piggyback tune on the wrong ecu the ecu will automatically flagged your car so your car's warranty is pretty much done.

regarding the ecu version, there are two types: pre 29.2 and post 29.2 (which is also know as dme v81) any car built after march of 2008 is considered as post 29.2; so unless you are buying your car used, there won't be any doubt your ecu version will be post 29.2.

to have the best gain, i highly suggest you get a jb3 or procede v3 as they are much more supportive to the post 29.2 market and does give tremendous gain both on paper and on wheels.

a typical jb3 in post 29.2 version will boost the stock car's psi from 6.5-7 all the way up to 14.5 - 16 depending on your area (due to colder temperature).

if you are to consider SSTT, i would highly suggest you wait for the new JB+ as it is very similar to SSTT that you do not have to get into the ecu compartment to install the piggyback, it's a complete plug and play piggyback and does give gains more than sstt, Jb2 and slightly lesser boost than jb3.

between the power gain wise, i will definitely rate the tune as:

procede V3 = JB3 > JB+ > JB2 > SSTT

hope that will give you a better understanding in your future car!

[Donald-335i]

JB3/PROcede V3 FTW!!!!


BTW i personally think the SSTT is a piece of s*** but thats just me

[tjnptel1]

You guys should also inform the TS about limp modes that come with Procede and not so much with SSTT and JB

[bmwturbopower]

Originally Posted by tjnptel1

You guys should also inform the TS about limp modes that come with Procede and not so much with SSTT and JB

All tunes, even stock can give you limps.

[jayely1]

I dont know where I got only 8 hp gain my bad! I thought the Jb2 was worse then the SSTT?? (procede V3 = JB3 > JB+ > JB2 > SSTT) I think a 40 hp gain would be Plenty from stock I dont want to stress my engine that bad. What's a decent run with a stock 335i with the JB2 ad SSTT?? With a Manual tranny? Thanks again guys.

[jayely1]

bumpp.

[john0213]

Originally Posted by tjnptel1

You guys should also inform the TS about limp modes that come with Procede and not so much with SSTT and JB

i'm not even gonna go there since i smell flames coming LOL.

i am a jb3 supporter but i am also very neutral regarding the war between both tunes. i do see the pros and cons for each one and i felt they are basically suited for different markets.

as for tunes stretching the engine limit, i'm really not quite sure if any tunes does stretch the engine to a limit where it will cause problems.

most people run pretty safe even at 15 psi and many of the cars are still smooth and reliable.

regarding limps, i do want to clarify for both tunes, limps are usually caused by user's mistakes. in many occasions, procede people encounter more limps really only because they have more customize setting for user to tweak the tunes themselves. the user screws up the setting himself hence causing the limps.

if you were to run them both easy and simple, they both runs pretty reliable.

[jayely1]

Ok thanks for the help, Is there a link to any quarter mile times with the sstt or jb2?? Thanks again

[jayely1]

Also are the both undetectable from bmw or easy to take off?? I know the SSTT is correct?

[john0213]

like i said, both jb and procede can be detected if the version is not right.

if you are running a pre 29.2 on a post 29.2, it will trigger flags on your ecu.

[David 12]

I second the idea about going with the latest technology. The jb2 is undetectable as long as you leave the blue and green looms disconnected. If you can spend a little more, the appropriate JB3 or Procede V3 plug and play are undetectable and are easy to install.

But I can't really blame you for going with a $100 mod that provides decent gains. Just make sure you leave the blue and green looms unattached.

[Sniz]

Originally Posted by tjnptel1

You guys should also inform the TS about limp modes that come with Procede and not so much with SSTT and JB

quit trying to stir the pot, I have seen plenty of JB3 limps as well fyi.

here for example:

as said earlier, all tunes even stock can hit limp modes under the right or wrong conditions.

[john0213]

Originally Posted by Sniz

quit trying to stir the pot, I have seen plenty of JB3 limps as well fyi.

here for example:

as said earlier, all tunes even stock can hit limp modes under the right or wrong conditions.

LOL and most limps are created by user error!