[dailyis]

Hello, I’m interested in some flames for my car.
335is, all supporting mods are installed.
Currently on an MHD OTS tune (v5 e40) for bout a year.

Recently I noticed my car spitting flames but only under load or high rpms. I have burbles set to max and at 4k. Before I go with a custom tuner, such as wedge or cd919, does my car have potential to produce flames with the current OTS? I was told meth with anti lag at a high rpm from wedge would produce flames, but I’m curious to see if anyone has done the same

[iqraceworks]

Originally Posted by dailyis

Hello, I’m interested in some flames for my car.
335is, all supporting mods are installed.
Currently on an MHD OTS tune (v5 e40) for bout a year.

Recently I noticed my car spitting flames but only under load or high rpms. I have burbles set to max and at 4k. Before I go with a custom tuner, such as wedge or cd919, does my car have potential to produce flames with the current OTS? I was told meth with anti lag at a high rpm from wedge would produce flames, but I’m curious to see if anyone has done the same

Do you have enough money laying around in the bank for a new set of turbos? Because that's what you are going to need pretty soon.

[Wolf 335]

SMH

[iqraceworks]

Why not just tap into your fuel rail, run a line all the way back to your exhaust tips, install a solenoid controlled by a button on the steering wheel that will inject raw fuel out of some sort of meth nozzle inside the exhaust tip, and install a BBQ grill igniter in there to light it off.........sounds perfectly safe, and all of your friends are going to think it's rad!!

[Jaronbwall]

The good ole' flame tune... like others hinted at already it's fun for 5 mins and when the turbos go (they will with heavy burble all day long) you'll regret that decision. Spend your money on maintenance and other useful mods.

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

While I agree burpless will add stress/wear, I seriously doubt it adds it to the point where your turbos will give up in much a shorter time. Unless some people have actual data to provide...

[Saif2018]

Originally Posted by dailyis

Hello, I’m interested in some flames for my car.
335is, all supporting mods are installed.
Currently on an MHD OTS tune (v5 e40) for bout a year.

Recently I noticed my car spitting flames but only under load or high rpms. I have burbles set to max and at 4k. Before I go with a custom tuner, such as wedge or cd919, does my car have potential to produce flames with the current OTS? I was told meth with anti lag at a high rpm from wedge would produce flames, but I’m curious to see if anyone has done the same

Not a good idea mate, might sound cool and look cool but flame tunes are even more aggressive than running burbles at max,

Not to mention those burbles get annoying real quick. Your better of PE modding the exhaust with downpipes which I assume you already have.

[Spyro235]

Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

While I agree burpless will add stress/wear, I seriously doubt it adds it to the point where your turbos will give up in much a shorter time. Unless some people have actual data to provide...

I've got to agree, my first n54 had burbles on aggressive for 40k miles lol. 171k miles and they were still rippin as requested

[AWD Addict]

[Mustafa.e92]

I had a custom flame tune for 10,000 kms because I was trying to blow the twins up before I went single. Is it good for the car? No but I beat the shit out of my mine and they took it fine I was more worried about hurting a valve or the rings/cylinder walls than the turbos. It’s a risk If you care about ur turbos don’t do it. If u don’t care it’s your car do what u want. Alpine.n55 has cheap flame tunes

[Mustafa.e92]

Also forgot to add you can get some decent flames with the ots map. Set burble to .4 or .9 I don’t remember. Bring the car up to like 6k let off and keep bliping the throttle than stop when the rpm’s start coming down to like 5k ish and stop. Give her a little burble tap at 3500ish and you should get some fat flames. This is on a ots tune

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by Mustafa.e92

Also forgot to add you can get some decent flames with the ots map. Set burble to .4 or .9 I don’t remember. Bring the car up to like 6k let off and keep bliping the throttle than stop when the rpm’s start coming down to like 5k ish and stop. Give her a little burble tap at 3500ish and you should get some fat flames. This is on a ots tune

Can confirm lol. I was doing flames with my previous car although I was fully catless on that one (second cats deleted replaced with resonators).

[tcphoto]

Oops, I melted another rear bumper...turbos to follow.

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by tcphoto

Oops, I melted another rear bumper...turbos to follow.

I was abusing the hell out of it on my gray one for over 2 years and that never happened. I feel like this is a pretty overblown myth that the the turbos will fail prematurely to a significant point, like I mean will fail at least 30 000KM or more sooner prematurely. Again though if people have data rather than just assumptions like it has always been when this topic come up (look it up).... please share so I may change my view.

[Tyc0]

Everyone who is saying this is going to blow turbos I would like to see some sort of evidence. You can’t just say something like that without providing some sort of proof.

I specifically asked Rob from RB Turbo about the burble setting and he said there is no evidence to support the claim that burbles cause any damage, nor have they seen any damage been done to thier customers turbos.

What about cars at drag strips? Or drift cars? They shoot flames all the time. It would be one thing to say the burbles might not be good for STOCK turbos, but 18psi from an OTS map can’t be great for them either…

[Saif2018]

Originally Posted by Tyc0

Everyone who is saying this is going to blow turbos I would like to see some sort of evidence. You can’t just say something like that without providing some sort of proof.

I specifically asked Rob from RB Turbo about the burble setting and he said there is no evidence to support the claim that burbles cause any damage, nor have they seen any damage been done to thier customers turbos.

What about cars at drag strips? Or drift cars? They shoot flames all the time. It would be one thing to say the burbles might not be good for STOCK turbos, but 18psi from an OTS map can’t be great for them either…

Have you asked him about Flame tunes and if they can cause damage?

18psi on OTS maps will probably reduce life expectancy of stock turbos compared to stock psi, but I've been trying to kill mine at 20psi and they haven't died yet so who knows. They are whining at low rpm though.

[Tyc0]

Originally Posted by Saif2018

Have you asked him about Flame tunes and if they can cause damage?

18psi on OTS maps will probably reduce life expectancy of stock turbos compared to stock psi, but I've been trying to kill mine at 20psi and they haven't died yet so who knows. They are whining at low rpm though.

I did not ask specifically about flame tunes but if there is no evidence for burbles hurting anything I don’t see what the difference would be. The burble setting creates a flame inside the turbine housing and the down pipe I would consider them very comparable.

In my opinion it goes back to quality parts, FD drifters with hood dumps on thier garret turbos don’t experience issues, a quality RB turbo won’t either. In my opinion and Robs.

[Saif2018]

Originally Posted by Tyc0

I did not ask specifically about flame tunes but if there is no evidence for burbles hurting anything I don’t see what the difference would be. The burble setting creates a flame inside the turbine housing and the down pipe I would consider them very comparable.

In my opinion it goes back to quality parts, FD drifters with hood dumps on thier garret turbos don’t experience issues, a quality RB turbo won’t either. In my opinion and Robs.

I was thinking flame tunes are much more aggressive than burbles though, would be interesting to see if anyone has issues from experience of running flame tunes on a frequent or daily basis.

[dailyis]

I now have flames.. with a custom tune from a local tuner. He is remote by the way if you guys want the info message me on IG @is__daily. Have it on my IS. Here’s a pic with me enjoying it from park.

Keep in mind that prolonged use will run thru your parts like butter if you abuse it. I shoot like 3-5 ft flames but it does waste a lot of gas the more I do it, so if you don’t like spending money on gas then don’t do it. I mix 9 gal e85 and the rest 91, usually about 40-50 for me, lasts me like 2 days, depending on where I drive to, and I daily my car. I’m also running 20psi on stock turbos

[AWD Addict]

@ VTECLOL plate.

[iqraceworks]

Originally Posted by dailyis

I now have flames.. with a custom tune from a local tuner. He is remote by the way if you guys want the info message me on IG @is__daily. Have it on my IS. Here’s a pic with me enjoying it from park.

Keep in mind that prolonged use will run thru your parts like butter if you abuse it. I shoot like 3-5 ft flames but it does waste a lot of gas the more I do it, so if you don’t like spending money on gas then don’t do it. I mix 9 gal e85 and the rest 91, usually about 40-50 for me, lasts me like 2 days, depending on where I drive to, and I daily my car. I’m also running 20psi on stock turbos

You go through a tank of fuel in two days....just from driving around and reving the hell out of your motor and blowing flames out of the exhaust?

I don't mean this in a condescending way at all.....but how old are you?

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by AWD Addict

@ VTECLOL plate.

I was waiting to see if someone would catch that