[TargaM2]

I guarantee this is not allowed anywhere near the front page, here’s a reality check from one of the best in the business…

[FC4]

Yayy another EV thread.

[TargaM2]

Originally Posted by FC4

Yayy another EV thread.

Did you actually watch it ? Or just make some dumb arse comment ?

[M-technik-3]

I like a lot of the comments he hit's on. It's common sense, we are getting there but we are not quite there yet.

[Patton250]

Carbon Footprint

[Socal_R8]

Originally Posted by TargaM2

I guarantee this is not allowed anywhere near the front page, here’s a reality check from one of the best in the business…

meanwhile Tesla announced price slashing on all models yesterday....from 6-20% reduction

People who recently bought are not happy....people who were looking to buy are stoked!!

You can now get a Model 3 Performance for $53,990 and qualify for the $7500 tax credit....

3.1 second 0-60 car for about $45k

shut up and take my money!!!


Anyone want to buy my F32???

HMU

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by SoCal_NSX

meanwhile Tesla announced price slashing on all models yesterday....from 6-20% reduction

People who recently bought are not happy....people who were looking to buy are stoked!!

You can now get a Model 3 Performance for $53,990 and qualify for the $7500 tax credit....

3.1 second 0-60 car for about $45k

shut up and take my money!!!


Anyone want to buy my F32???

HMU

Problem is even though I love me some Elon musk every single one of his cars are Hella ugly. I mean just absolutely ridiculous looking. It pisses me off because it doesn’t have to be that way. It’s not just Tesla either. Most electric cars are just ridiculously ugly. Why? Is there some unwritten rule?

[wdb]

Originally Posted by SoCal_NSX

meanwhile Tesla announced price slashing on all models yesterday....from 6-20% reduction

People who recently bought are not happy....people who were looking to buy are stoked!!

I have a friend who bought a first gen iPhone for, what was it, $600? when they first came out. He was quite proud of himself for having nabbed one. 6 months later Apple cut the price to, what was it, $400? Which I made the mistake of pointing out to him. He didn't talk to me for weeks.

[M-technik-3]

Originally Posted by Patton250

Problem is even though I love me some Elon musk every single one of his cars are Hella ugly. I mean just absolutely ridiculous looking. It pisses me off because it doesn’t have to be that way. It’s not just Tesla either. Most electric cars are just ridiculously ugly. Why? Is there some unwritten rule?

Was at the dealer today picking up some parts and happened to see a hideous 7 series and both were noy in the showroom. The 2020 M2 comp was thou.

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by TargaM2

I guarantee this is not allowed anywhere near the front page, here’s a reality check from one of the best in the business…

It's funny how common sense seems to be so un-common of late.

[P1]

Originally Posted by TargaM2

Did you actually watch it ? Or just make some dumb arse comment ?

Truth is most of us aren't going to waste nearly 20 minutes listening to a random YouTuber.

How about you give us the summary?

[Alfisti]

gotta merge this thread, this is ridiculous. This video has already been posted in one of the other 18 EV threads.

[TargaM2]

Originally Posted by P1

Truth is most of us aren't going to waste nearly 20 minutes listening to a random YouTuber.

How about you give us the summary?

Harry Metcalfe a “random YouTuber”. 🤣
For others that live under a rock or from the US, he is responsible for some of the best motoring journalism over the last 20+ years such as creating Evo magazine etc & introduced many of the best journos to the game such as Harris, Sutcliffe, Meardon, Catchpole etc. Thus always worth a listen imo.
I’m not going to summarize anything, if your not interested then just don’t watch it, simple. Guaranteed any of the self proclaimed ‘experts’ on this site will know far better anyway…humility is a quality many Americans have yet to grasp unfortunately.🙄

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Okay, I will. Harry, who believes in and is worried about (anthropogenic) climate change*, indicates the UK December EV sales increase 33% because automakers are forced by the UK Govenment to sell a specific number of electrics per year to avoid getting fined. So, the EV manufacturers introduce EV sales incentives at the end of the calendar year to make sure they hit there sales targets to not be fined by the Queen, err... King Chucky. He also stated diesels are still the better efficiency solution because EVs should get 3 miles per kilowatt, when most only get 2 miles or less BUT can do "naught-to-60" in 3 seconds.

*note, Harry the Petrolhead doesn't give up his car habit for the sake of saving the planet, he just worries about it, and acts all concerned like.

And it all sounds authoritative and serious as shit because of his Brit accent.

Bro where were you before I wasted my 20 minutes watching it.

Excellent summary!!! Especially the *note. Spot on. Typical too.

[TargaM2]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Eh, I'll put up John McElroy and Autoline any day of the week against Metcalf. John's been providing in-depth coverage of the auto industry in video format since before there was a yootoobe.

I guess the Brits learned humility when the Titanic sank?

It’s not a contest sunshine. 🙄
Humility…nothing. Arrogance…in abundance.

[HighlandPete]

Originally Posted by TargaM2

Harry Metcalfe a “random YouTuber”. 🤣
For others that live under a rock or from the US, he is responsible for some of the best motoring journalism over the last 20+ years such as creating Evo magazine etc & introduced many of the best journos to the game such as Harris, Sutcliffe, Meardon, Catchpole etc. Thus always worth a listen imo.
I’m not going to summarize anything, if your not interested then just don’t watch it, simple. Guaranteed any of the self proclaimed ‘experts’ on this site will know far better anyway…humility is a quality many Americans have yet to grasp unfortunately.🙄

Well said.

I sense anyone who understands Harry Metcalfe (and his motoring/journalism heritage) is wasting their time explaining to the US part of the forum.

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by HighlandPete

Well said.

I sense anyone who understands Harry Metcalfe (and his motoring/journalism heritage) is wasting their time explaining to the US part of the forum.

Well, that’s a bunch of Barbra Streisand. I watch him all the time. I rather enjoy his YouTube page. Our forum friend was just pointing out the man’s slight bit of hypocrisy when it comes to climate change. I don’t see why you guys should get all bent out of shape about it. It’s actually quite typical. Here is an example. How would you feel being lectured about the dangers of sugar, and why companies shouldn’t be allowed to create products with sugar, by an obese man swigging a soda down? I think most everyone would roll their eyes at him. If you really think petrol (UK term) cars are destroying the earth through climate change, you shouldn’t own any. Either that or you at least shouldn’t talk about it. That’s my opinion. Oh, I think many other people hold it as well. All that has nothing to do with the fact that Harry is pretty awesome and has great content. My advice to him would be to not discuss climate change on a high-performance car enthusiast channel.

[P1]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Okay, I will. Harry, who believes in and is worried about (anthropogenic) climate change*, indicates the UK December EV sales increase 33% because automakers are forced by the UK Govenment to sell a specific number of electrics per year to avoid getting fined. So, the EV manufacturers introduce EV sales incentives at the end of the calendar year to make sure they hit there sales targets to not be fined by the Queen, err... King Chucky. He also stated diesels are still the better efficiency solution because EVs should get 3 miles per kilowatt, when most only get 2 miles or less BUT can do "naught-to-60" in 3 seconds.

*note, Harry the Petrolhead doesn't give up his car habit for the sake of saving the planet, he just worries about it, and acts all concerned like.

And it all sounds authoritative and serious as shit because of his Brit accent.

Thank you for summarizing. A helpful post is always appreciated more than a snarky TargaM2 comment.

[chassis]

Tavares from Stellantis says the company is withdrawing from lobbying (political) efforts in Europe.

Toyoda from Toyota says EVs will take longer to become mainstream than the media would like us to know.

Separately but related, Powell said the Fed will not get involved in climate change.

Climate change and EVs are political. Not market-driven.

[Donatello.]

Not clicking another YT nonsense thing. Sum it up

[StradaRedlands]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

And it all sounds authoritative and serious as shit because of his Brit accent.

Thank you for your service.

I think his accent and speech pattern is somewhere between Clarkson and May.
Two of the three other British car people I know.

[x622]

Originally Posted by Donatello.

Not clicking another YT nonsense thing. Sum it up

Sir, SIR, you have to burn 18 minutes watching this guy's points. They REALLY resonated with the OP.

Jesus christ I hate the modern age. I don't mind Harry, but write an article. I read 10x faster than I listen to someone's spiel.