E90Post
 


 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > BIMMERPOST Universal Forums > General BMW News and Cars Discussion > SIB: CRACKING/CREAKING NOISE FRONT AXLE/STEERING SYSTEM (Removed by BMW Takedown)



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      03-09-2023, 01:12 PM   #1
Tag
this is the way
Tag's Avatar
20012
Rep
8,949
Posts

Drives: N-1 starfighter
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Chicago

iTrader: (3)

Post SIB: CRACKING/CREAKING NOISE FRONT AXLE/STEERING SYSTEM (Removed by BMW Takedown)

BIMMERPOST
     Featured on BIMMERPOST.com
Looks like the M2 is fitted with the EPS that has this issue. No mention what production dates are affected. They'll most likely include that info in the April update of this SIB.

AFFECTED MODELS
F95* (X5 M Sports Activity Vehicle)
F96* (X6 M Sports Activity Coupe)
G05* (X5 Sports Activity Vehicle)
G06* (X6 Sports Activity Coupe)
G07* (X7 Sports Activity Vehicle)
G20** (3 Series Sedan)
G22** (4 Series Coupe)
G23** (4 Series Convertible)
G26** (4 Series Gran Coupe)
G29* (Z4 Roadster)
G42** (2 Series Coupe)
G80* (M3 Sedan)
G82* (M4 Coupe)
G83* (M4 Convertible)
G87* (M2 Coupe)

Only vehicles that are fitted with an Electric Power Steering (EPS) from ThyssenKrupp Presta Steering (TKPS) as noted below.


* Vehicles are fitted with an EPS from TKPS
** Vehicles can be fitted with either a TKPS or JTEK EPS (G20, G22, G23, G26 and G42 Only), these vehicles must be checked first to see which EPS is installed.

CORRECTION
Replace one or both tie rod assemblies.

Last edited by Tag; 03-10-2023 at 07:02 PM..
Appreciate 18
ronin130131067.00
zero213276.00
M Division1244.50
btb7ev0.00
M3 boi3220.00
Tenac4797.00
blonded88.50
oz555712.50
Frosty879.50
2srsman93.00
LeRoy389.00
FISH225492.00
///MPhatic15382.00
      03-09-2023, 01:17 PM   #2
zero21
Lieutenant Colonel
3276
Rep
1,843
Posts

Drives: G87 sold
Join Date: Nov 2022
Location: Charleston, SC

iTrader: (0)

I can't believe my car has a recall, and two service bulletins before even being released. On the other hand, I'm damn happy BMW is replacing faulty components after a thoroughly vetted Problem Management process.
Appreciate 10
jpf34012.00
6speed_M29885.00
JustChris17677.00
SpinalTap123.50
2srsman93.00
T3CH46.50
Limegrntaln14226.00
      03-09-2023, 01:29 PM   #3
Tag
this is the way
Tag's Avatar
20012
Rep
8,949
Posts

Drives: N-1 starfighter
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Chicago

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by zero21 View Post
I can't believe my car has a recall, and two service bulletins before even being released. On the other hand, I'm damn happy BMW is replacing faulty components after a thoroughly vetted Problem Management process.
The SIB doesn't indicate all cars will exhibit this issue but if you get your car and do notice noise from the front you at least know what it is.
Appreciate 0
      03-09-2023, 01:38 PM   #4
Ghostrider.1127
Ghostrider
Ghostrider.1127's Avatar
195
Rep
142
Posts

Drives: M140iX,Z4M40i,M8 comp,M2g87
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Berlin (DE) Stockholm (SVE)

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by zero21 View Post
I can't believe my car has a recall, and two service bulletins before even being released. On the other hand, I'm damn happy BMW is replacing faulty components after a thoroughly vetted Problem Management process.
Was thinking the same............
Appreciate 0
      03-09-2023, 05:21 PM   #5
KevinC
your average JAMF
KevinC's Avatar
United_States
3509
Rep
4,185
Posts

Drives: '21 M2 Comp, '19 Golf R
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Cochise County, AZ

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
This is what happens when you source your exotic German performance machine’s steering components from a freaking elevator manufacturer. 😝
Appreciate 10
Patton2502963.00
SK2K42.00
Kwills366.00
F32Fleet3907.50
jri_21304.00
Limegrntaln14226.00
Polo088161642.50
      03-09-2023, 05:44 PM   #6
sl0m0
Major
United_States
1305
Rep
1,012
Posts

Drives: Sedan
Join Date: Oct 2022
Location: az

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by KevinC View Post
This is what happens when you source your exotic German performance machine’s steering components from a freaking elevator manufacturer. 😝
I got my pellet smoker from a company that started out by making home pellet stoves. Some industries are actually applicable in multiple settings and save a ton in r&d.
Appreciate 1
AndyinHou482.00
      03-09-2023, 06:20 PM   #7
M_Power Rob
Brigadier General
4555
Rep
3,655
Posts

Drives: '23 M240 and '23 M2
Join Date: Jan 2023
Location: South Florida

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by sl0m0 View Post
I got my pellet smoker from a company that started out by making home pellet stoves. Some industries are actually applicable in multiple settings and save a ton in r&d.

And during the initial Covid period, Ford was manufacturing ventilators and respirators.
Appreciate 4
      03-09-2023, 07:52 PM   #8
KevinC
your average JAMF
KevinC's Avatar
United_States
3509
Rep
4,185
Posts

Drives: '21 M2 Comp, '19 Golf R
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Cochise County, AZ

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by sl0m0 View Post
I got my pellet smoker from a company that started out by making home pellet stoves. Some industries are actually applicable in multiple settings and save a ton in r&d.
I was kidding. Many companies are into auto parts that are bigger in some other industry. Thyssen Krupp definitely more recognizable as an elevator company than purveyor of steering components for fine German automotive machinery.

So this is recall #2 for a car that hasn't even gone on sale yet? Not off to a stellar start. NFW I'd want to own a first-year car, particularly a very early one. But that's just me.
__________________
'21 M2 Comp
'19 Golf R
Appreciate 0
      03-09-2023, 08:59 PM   #9
Tag
this is the way
Tag's Avatar
20012
Rep
8,949
Posts

Drives: N-1 starfighter
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Chicago

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by KevinC View Post
...
So this is recall #2 for a car that hasn't even gone on sale yet? Not off to a stellar start. NFW I'd want to own a first-year car, particularly a very early one. But that's just me.
It's not a recall, it's a SIB and if you look at the affected models it's a large range of BMWs.
Appreciate 0
      03-09-2023, 09:22 PM   #10
zero21
Lieutenant Colonel
3276
Rep
1,843
Posts

Drives: G87 sold
Join Date: Nov 2022
Location: Charleston, SC

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tag View Post
It's not a recall, it's a SIB and if you look at the affected models it's a large range of BMWs.
I believe this is something the G80 and G82 crowd has periodically clamored about with no fix. At certain times it was just accepted that it made noise from some of the threads I read there.

Quite a few folks thought it was suspension issues from lowered cars on springs or HAS kits.
Appreciate 3
Limegrntaln14226.00
JTO245806.00
      03-09-2023, 09:43 PM   #11
sl0m0
Major
United_States
1305
Rep
1,012
Posts

Drives: Sedan
Join Date: Oct 2022
Location: az

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by KevinC View Post
I was kidding. Many companies are into auto parts that are bigger in some other industry. Thyssen Krupp definitely more recognizable as an elevator company than purveyor of steering components for fine German automotive machinery.

So this is recall #2 for a car that hasn't even gone on sale yet? Not off to a stellar start. NFW I'd want to own a first-year car, particularly a very early one. But that's just me.
I just appreciate that bmw is catching this stuff now, some auto makers wouldn't catch this stuff for 5 years, and others would just pretend that it's not even possible that anything could go wrong with their vehicles.
Appreciate 3
M Division1244.50
M3 boi3220.00
cfm56d7b6500.50
      03-09-2023, 09:57 PM   #12
Tag
this is the way
Tag's Avatar
20012
Rep
8,949
Posts

Drives: N-1 starfighter
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Chicago

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by zero21 View Post
I believe this is something the G80 and G82 crowd has periodically clamored about with no fix. At certain times it was just accepted that it made noise from some of the threads I read there.

Quite a few folks thought it was suspension issues from lowered cars on springs or HAS kits.
Quote:
Originally Posted by sl0m0 View Post
I just appreciate that bmw is catching this stuff now, some auto makers wouldn't catch this stuff for 5 years, and others would just pretend that it's not even possible that anything could go wrong with their vehicles.
I've never been worried that issues would not be addressed by BMW. Sure, sometimes it takes them a while to get to the bottom of it, but they ultimately come out with a fix. If a part has a potential to fail but is not subject to a recall, they'll automatically extend the warranty on said part to 10yrs/100Kmls.
Appreciate 1
      03-09-2023, 11:37 PM   #13
Rx-7ames
Captain
Rx-7ames's Avatar
1961
Rep
761
Posts

Drives: '23 M2
Join Date: Nov 2022
Location: Oregon

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2023 BMW M2  [7.50]
Quote:
Originally Posted by KevinC View Post
I was kidding. Many companies are into auto parts that are bigger in some other industry. Thyssen Krupp definitely more recognizable as an elevator company than purveyor of steering components for fine German automotive machinery.

So this is recall #2 for a car that hasn't even gone on sale yet? Not off to a stellar start. NFW I'd want to own a first-year car, particularly a very early one. But that's just me.
FWIW, the airbag cover recall effected all 2 series; a car that's been in production for 1.5 years. I'm not worried about a first year G87. There's nothing new in this car.
Appreciate 0
      03-10-2023, 06:02 AM   #14
zero21
Lieutenant Colonel
3276
Rep
1,843
Posts

Drives: G87 sold
Join Date: Nov 2022
Location: Charleston, SC

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rx-7ames View Post
FWIW, the airbag cover recall effected all 2 series; a car that's been in production for 1.5 years. I'm not worried about a first year G87. There's nothing new in this car.
Body panels, lights, ZB and M Highlight seat colors are! Off the top of my head.
Appreciate 1
DrJLag420842.00
      03-10-2023, 06:26 AM   #15
Ghostrider.1127
Ghostrider
Ghostrider.1127's Avatar
195
Rep
142
Posts

Drives: M140iX,Z4M40i,M8 comp,M2g87
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Berlin (DE) Stockholm (SVE)

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by KevinC View Post
I was kidding. Many companies are into auto parts that are bigger in some other industry. Thyssen Krupp definitely more recognizable as an elevator company than purveyor of steering components for fine German automotive machinery.

So this is recall #2 for a car that hasn't even gone on sale yet? Not off to a stellar start. NFW I'd want to own a first-year car, particularly a very early one. But that's just me.
using the wheels on few bikes i own




,
Appreciate 3
Jimc44.00
DRTMGRT328.50
      03-10-2023, 03:42 PM   #16
Jsun21
Private First Class
57
Rep
140
Posts

Drives: BMW e46 M3, BMW M440i
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Socal

iTrader: (0)

Had this issue on my G22. Dealer ended up replacing the steering rack. Was at the dealer for about a month. At the time this wasn’t a known issue. Dealer had to test drive for a couple weeks with chassis ears until they figured it out. Glad there’s an official fix now.
Appreciate 2
AndyinHou482.00
zero213276.00
      03-10-2023, 03:47 PM   #17
pock3trock3t
New Member
No_Country
2
Rep
18
Posts

Drives: BMW 118i E87, X3 30iX
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Australia

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2019 BMW X3  [0.00]
I’m getting creaking noise on my X3 which I’ve started a post link here. I wonder if it extends to G01 models but not listed in the notice.

I’ve taken out to the dealer for warranty repair twice now, and I’m about to take it back to them for a third time!
Appreciate 0
      03-10-2023, 04:07 PM   #18
blonded
Private
89
Rep
76
Posts

Drives: G80 M3 competition
Join Date: Mar 2022
Location: los angeles

iTrader: (0)

and here i was thinking this sound was normal. thanks for sharing this. now i know i need to get it fixed
Appreciate 0
      03-10-2023, 04:35 PM   #19
10"
Colonel
10"'s Avatar
No_Country
5108
Rep
2,297
Posts

Drives: orange BMW 1M.
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: world

iTrader: (0)

At this rate, the M2 may never actually be released! 😂😂
__________________
don't read this. too late...
Appreciate 0
      03-10-2023, 05:34 PM   #20
Mavus
Colonel
Mavus's Avatar
2284
Rep
2,893
Posts

Drives: E90 335i, F80 zcp
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: PA

iTrader: (9)

Quote:
Originally Posted by KevinC View Post
This is what happens when you source your exotic German performance machine’s steering components from a freaking elevator manufacturer. 😝
You know Lambo was making farming tractors
Appreciate 2
Frosty879.50
      03-10-2023, 06:09 PM   #21
peelerec
Major
peelerec's Avatar
1375
Rep
1,490
Posts

Drives: 2022 M340i Mineral Grey
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: North Bay & Los Angeles

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2022 BMW M340i  [9.92]
Quote:
Originally Posted by zero21 View Post
I believe this is something the G80 and G82 crowd has periodically clamored about with no fix. At certain times it was just accepted that it made noise from some of the threads I read there.

Quite a few folks thought it was suspension issues from lowered cars on springs or HAS kits.
This has also been referred to as the “clunking sound” on G20 forums. This creak/clunk happens even on 100% stock vehicles with stock and M perf OEM springs. For some such as myself, I heard the clunk within 2 weeks of ownership on stock springs and to this day with dinan springs, 12 months later.
__________________
Present: 2022 M340i Mineral Grey
Past: 2019 330i, 2012 Evo X GSR
Appreciate 0
      03-10-2023, 06:26 PM   #22
DocWeatherington
Brigadier General
DocWeatherington's Avatar
United_States
3291
Rep
4,336
Posts

Drives: F90 CP
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: US

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2024 XM  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by M_Power Rob View Post
And during the initial Covid period, Ford was manufacturing ventilators and respirators.
All the major manufacturers were but it was at a high tolerance..build quality for medical devices are much higher than that of a car.
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:36 PM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST