[mirob]

"$50,000 V8 Champion"

Enjoy!

[jmack]

I was sure the S650 was going to be my M2 replacement, but it sounds like Ford majorly messed up the steering. I can't justify the current used S550 prices either.

[Alfisti]

The Camaro back end is really disconcerting. The screens are absolutely hilariously bad, like 2014 wants it's screens back. Fuck me what a calamity.

[Humdizzle]

they did a good job making it look good in the press photos.

the dark horse looks awful in these new videos. like they just slapped an autozone black vinyl on the bumpers and roof. and they want 60k for it.

[MmmmmM2]

Steering worse than BMW? Color me shocked!

[G MONEY]

It’s still a turd-stand. Same as all the rest. Next please

[freakystyly]

Originally Posted by MmmmmM2

Steering worse than BMW? Color me shocked!

It totally explains the curb hopping at cars and coffee events.

[heavyD^2]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

The Camaro back end is really disconcerting. The screens are absolutely hilariously bad, like 2014 wants it's screens back. Fuck me what a calamity.

The split screens do look terrible.

[Germanauto]

I really wasn't a fan of the GT I had for a few days. Too numb feeling a car. I can't imagine the new model will be any different given the carryover underpinnings.

I do however commend Ford on keeping the V8 alive. The other two automakers in Detroit didn't get the memo.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by jmack

it sounds like Ford majorly messed up the steering. I.

hi can you explain?

[jmack]

Originally Posted by g21

hi can you explain?

Just going off what was shown in the video, very light and numb steering. At least the S550 (and my M2) were weighted nicely while being numb.

[G30M]

thanks, i prefer light and numb than heavy and numb, at least i can put my energy into useful things

my BMWs are driven on Comfort steering setting ;p

but i'm no track monster though. to join the local track here costs me a new car lease every year!

[RM7]

Originally Posted by g21

thanks, i prefer light and numb than heavy and numb, at least i can put my energy into useful things

my BMWs are driven on Comfort steering setting ;p

but i'm no track monster though. to join the local track here costs me a new car lease every year!

Maybe BMW figured out electronic steering finally...but a few years ago, they had no clue. My BMW was terrible for this. Large dead spot in the middle...wtf? A few mfrs have figured it out though and it's not impossible to do. Steering too light definitely makes it harder to do performance driving, you break loose way too easy, you are able to increase the steering angle way too easy for how much traction is available. It's ok for a comfort car...but as soon as you start hitting it, you need some weight in there.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by RM7

Steering too light definitely makes it harder to do performance driving, you break loose way too easy, you are able to increase the steering angle way too easy for how much traction is available.

this makes sense, the self centering torque on a standard mechanical steering wheel gets stronger with more steering angle. i drive for hours and i don't need my hands to get tired for no reason. but yeah a communicative steering is good for driving at the limit which i won't be doing on public roads!

can't afford a Porsche performance steering so the numb BMW one will have to do

[NickyC]

It looks like a Camaro, wth.

Man do I hate these screens in cars. I'm just not getting used to them at all.

[M3WC]

Originally Posted by jmack

I was sure the S650 was going to be my M2 replacement, but it sounds like Ford majorly messed up the steering. I can't justify the current used S550 prices either.

This gen is going to be Dark Horse or bust.

[Socal_R8]

I'll wait until they come out with this Stang....

https://video.topspeedimages.com/202...1690459705.mp4



https://www.topspeed.com/this-mid-en...y-c8-corvette/

[erickonphoenix]

Originally Posted by jmack

Just going off what was shown in the video, very light and numb steering. At least the S550 (and my M2) were weighted nicely while being numb.

I lived with a 6MT 2016 GT for four years and the steering is pretty vague. I got used to it but on the track it was common for me to run over the apex. Also the car had understeer which was fine but would snap into oversteer with this odd pitching feeling. I massaged most of that out with some suspension mods but it was never going to be a time attack machine on a circuit.

However, it was a great interstate bomber. I took it to FL, AZ, CO and pretty much commuted back and forth to Austin in it. I put 100k miles on it. It never left me stranded and with the magnoflow exhaust and the 6MT the automotive theater was amazing.

Would never buy another one.