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      12-21-2007, 09:54 PM   #1
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2009 SLK 350 - 305 hp/268lb/ft torque

Competition to 135i?
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9071221....elift-unveiled
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      12-22-2007, 01:32 AM   #2
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slower, more expensive, less practical.

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this post was edited by a moderator and just noticed it doesn't note that... hmmm a little shady.
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      12-22-2007, 01:48 AM   #3
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+1 Not at all the same car.
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      12-22-2007, 10:26 AM   #4
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Perfectly nice car, but not really a 1er competitor in my mind.
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      12-22-2007, 06:13 PM   #5
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I'm more interested in that 3.5L V6. I'm guessing in next model year MB will equip the C350 with that engine. The new C class is not a bad car, but the 335i raised the game so much, that it just doesn't make sense to compete in the entry luxo game unless you can bring >300HP to the table. Assuming that MB will indeed put this engine in the C350, that only leaves the new A4, still with ~260HP.

What's your move, VAG?
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      12-24-2007, 09:18 AM   #6
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My only quibble with the MB V6 is the fact that it employs a 90 degree V angle. You have to massage it more to make it smooth (and the exhaust just never sounds 'right' to me - think Buick 3800, a great engine a lousy exhaust note ; -).
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      12-24-2007, 10:04 AM   #7
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Its still going to eat my dust. Sports car and all.
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      12-24-2007, 11:38 AM   #8
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My only quibble with the MB V6 is the fact that it employs a 90 degree V angle. You have to massage it more to make it smooth (and the exhaust just never sounds 'right' to me - think Buick 3800, a great engine a lousy exhaust note ; -).
Hugo, do you know the reason behind that choice? Is it in some way modular with their V8? I can't really think of any real advantage of having 90 degree V6.
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      12-24-2007, 11:53 AM   #9
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spinzero - yes I believe the V6 originated as an offshoot of the V8 - there are some packaging considerations for the 90 degree V angle also - especially if your using overhead cams and want a low hood.
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spinzero - yes I believe the V6 originated as an offshoot of the V8 - there are some packaging considerations for the 90 degree V angle also - especially if your using overhead cams and want a low hood.
Ah, I see. I didn't know about the packaging advantage. That might actually be useful, especially with the euro pedestrian safety reg. Thanks!
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      12-26-2007, 04:22 PM   #11
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yeah I am more interested in the V6. Nothing mentioned from what I saw that it is direct injected but I assume it is to get the extra power and efficiency?
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      12-26-2007, 05:26 PM   #12
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Cute!
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      12-26-2007, 06:13 PM   #13
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Here's a link to some doc on the MB M272 V6 - it is a 90 degree V with a counter-rotating balance shaft. I don't think they use offset crank journals (like Audi and, IIRC, Opel).

http://www.billsden.org/fileadmin/me...ngine_m272.pdf
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