GP Thunders or LED Markers

zaytar · 02-06-2009, 12:00 PM

Guys,

I've done several searches and I admit defeat in trying to understand the difference.

I'm keen on getting rid of the dirty yellow daytime running lights on my 2007 e92 335i.

Initially I assumed a direct replace with 7500k 35w GP Thunder bulbs (I gathered this much from searching). However I see Teddy at SSDD selling something calld LED Markers, these are significantly more expensive.

Can someone please explain the difference between the bulbs and the markers?

greatbm · 02-06-2009, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by zaytar

Guys,

I've done several searches and I admit defeat in trying to understand the difference.

I'm keen on getting rid of the dirty yellow daytime running lights on my 2007 e92 335i.

Initially I assumed a direct replace with 7500k 35w GP Thunder bulbs (I gathered this much from searching). However I see Teddy at SSDD selling something calld LED Markers, these are significantly more expensive.

Can someone please explain the difference between the bulbs and the markers?

I,am running with GP Thunders 35 watt replacements and it has made a considerable effect on the yellowness whilst in daytime running. The LED replacements are made to shine a bright white light straight onto the internal fibre optics creating a much whiter intense light. I,am happy with the thunders for the price unless the LED's come down in price.

Hotcoupe · 02-06-2009, 02:34 PM

Zaytar,greatbm has given a good description of the difference between the 2 types, and yes the LED's are expensive.

Give Teddy a call, I'm sure he'd give you a discount, let him know you are a member here

acerboo · 02-06-2009, 03:24 PM

tried both, led's are the best, Teddy is top man for these

RichardM · 02-06-2009, 05:37 PM

Does anyone have the LED's fitted? How much brighter are they? Any pictures?

Hotcoupe · 02-07-2009, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RichardM

Does anyone have the LED's fitted? How much brighter are they? Any pictures?

First pic - OEM left, LED's right
Second pic - LED Only

M3-FAST · 02-07-2009, 04:50 AM

mmmm, think I need to order a set of those LED ones

acerboo · 02-07-2009, 08:25 AM

the led's are whiter and brighter than standard. the gp's do not give an even light on the outer/inner lights whereas the led's do. they come with resistors so no bulb failure warning either. the standard drl's come on brighter than the side lights but the led's dont change. expensive but worth it.

zaytar · 02-07-2009, 11:16 AM

Thanks all.

I think I do prefer the LEDs. But at 10 times the price of the bulbs will take some further thinking.

Mr.N · 02-10-2009, 09:28 AM

The LED's look proper sweet.
How easy / hard are they to fit?
I worry about doing stuff like this!!

booforty · 02-10-2009, 10:25 AM

The LEDs are much better than the GP Thunders, especially at night. However, they look very similar during daylight. I've got the GP Thunders and I'm very pleased with them given the price. I won't change to LEDs until the price is much more sensible

creepy coupe · 02-10-2009, 10:53 AM

GP thunders 750k and OE

Enough said

The LED's I've seen in daylight conditions look slightly dimmer than GP's

xenon · 02-10-2009, 10:56 AM

I'm in two minds about this. The OEM have the advantage of being and looking OEM - I can't help feeling that the blue-tint looks too aftermarket / Halfords kind of thing like those dreadful CCFLs that people insist on blu-tacking to their E46 / E36.

creepy coupe · 02-10-2009, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by xenon

I'm in two minds about this. The OEM have the advantage of being and looking OEM - I can't help feeling that the blue-tint looks too aftermarket / Halfords kind of thing like those dreadful CCFLs that people insist on blu-tacking to their E46 / E36.

To the eye I found the GP's to look less blue than in the photos, I think my camera colour balance makes them look bluer.

biscuits · 02-10-2009, 11:30 AM

I have the GP Thunders... I'd consider the LEDs if we could get a say 25-35% group buy discount.

booforty · 02-10-2009, 11:43 AM

Ian, the GP Thunders are not very blue, not mine anyway. They are actually white and are a better match with the xenon bulb

They still retain the OEM look very well, IMO

Creepy, I agree, the LEDs on Naz's M3 were actually dimmer in the daytime than my GP Thunders

xenon · 02-10-2009, 11:44 AM

I'll have to see in the flesh.

willhollin · 02-10-2009, 12:08 PM

GP Thunders on mine, no complaints. Switch the DRLs on all the time in I-Drive or the instrument stalk and they are plenty bright enough.

Imran@Evolve · 02-10-2009, 12:15 PM

We have our first batch of LED's for the E92 coming in next week to as an alternative to the GP Thunders we stock. I can set up a group buy if there is some interest. RRP on these is £109 - we could probably do a 25% discount on a group buy of 10.

I'll work out proper pricing when they have landed.

Spin · 02-11-2009, 12:31 PM

Damn ! Why didn't I wait?!? Just bought a set off Teddy, not fitted yet but as I have GP thunders already fitted I'll post some pics as a comparison, I paid £99 inc postage.

biscuits · 02-11-2009, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Imran@Evolve

We have our first batch of LED's for the E92 coming in next week to as an alternative to the GP Thunders we stock. I can set up a group buy if there is some interest. RRP on these is £109 - we could probably do a 25% discount on a group buy of 10.

I'll work out proper pricing when they have landed.

More stuff I'll have to put on the credit card !

ThorsHammer · 02-11-2009, 01:09 PM

Just to clarify for you, mate, LED "Sidemarkers" are replacement bulbs for the little light on the sides in front of the doors. They light up when entering/exiting and when the turn signal is on.

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zaytar Private 4 Rep 87 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham iTrader: (0)	GP Thunders or LED Markers - Confused Guys, I've done several searches and I admit defeat in trying to understand the difference. I'm keen on getting rid of the dirty yellow daytime running lights on my 2007 e92 335i. Initially I assumed a direct replace with 7500k 35w GP Thunder bulbs (I gathered this much from searching). However I see Teddy at SSDD selling something calld LED Markers, these are significantly more expensive. Can someone please explain the difference between the bulbs and the markers?
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Hotcoupe Major General 197 Rep 6,110 Posts Drives: Don't know yet! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: UK iTrader: (2) Garage List November 2008 335D ... [8.34] 2007 335D [0.00]	Zaytar,greatbm has given a good description of the difference between the 2 types, and yes the LED's are expensive. Give Teddy a call, I'm sure he'd give you a discount, let him know you are a member here __________________ ================================= Never argue with an idiot on the internet. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
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acerboo Brigadier General 187 Rep 3,923 Posts Drives: e92 335d lci Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: kent iTrader: (2)	the led's are whiter and brighter than standard. the gp's do not give an even light on the outer/inner lights whereas the led's do. they come with resistors so no bulb failure warning either. the standard drl's come on brighter than the side lights but the led's dont change. expensive but worth it.
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zaytar Private 4 Rep 87 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham iTrader: (0)	Thanks all. I think I do prefer the LEDs. But at 10 times the price of the bulbs will take some further thinking.
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Mr.N BM Baby 12 Rep 404 Posts Drives: E92 335d Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North West iTrader: (0)	The LED's look proper sweet. How easy / hard are they to fit? I worry about doing stuff like this!!
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booforty Major General 360 Rep 8,809 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London, UK iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 E92 M3 [0.00]	The LEDs are much better than the GP Thunders, especially at night. However, they look very similar during daylight. I've got the GP Thunders and I'm very pleased with them given the price. I won't change to LEDs until the price is much more sensible
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creepy coupe Lieutenant General 1825 Rep 13,043 Posts Drives: BMW M340I G20 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: UK iTrader: (2) Garage List 2015 BMW 435d [0.00] 2009 335i [0.00]	GP thunders 750k and OE Enough said The LED's I've seen in daylight conditions look slightly dimmer than GP's
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xenon Major General 1471 Rep 8,200 Posts Drives: 2021 G21 330i M-Sport Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Coventry iTrader: (0)	I'm in two minds about this. The OEM have the advantage of being and looking OEM - I can't help feeling that the blue-tint looks too aftermarket / Halfords kind of thing like those dreadful CCFLs that people insist on blu-tacking to their E46 / E36. __________________ Ian Current: 2021 G21 330i M-Sport Previous: 2018 A6 Avant S-Line MMI+, 2014 F31 320d M-Sport, 2013 F10 520d M-Sport, 2011 F10 530d M-Sport, 2008 320i M-Sport Coupe, 2002 325i, 2001 318i valvetronic, 1998 318i, 1996 525i, 1990 Porsche 944S2
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