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      02-10-2009, 08:29 PM   #1
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procede v3 rev II...now what for more power?

I want more power but I dont have the needed funds. Im on stage 1 with a helene drop in and run 93 octane. Im on his latest maps as well. This tune is so consistent that I feel I need more power already. what can I do to get more power without spending a ton? Thanks for any input. I havent played with the setting yet because I havent set everything up yet. Ill be good to go in a few days.
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I want more power but I dont have the needed funds. Im on stage 1 with a helene drop in and run 93 octane. Im on his latest maps as well. This tune is so consistent that I feel I need more power already. what can I do to get more power without spending a ton? Thanks for any input. I havent played with the setting yet because I havent set everything up yet. Ill be good to go in a few days.
How much are you willing to spend?

I think your next best options would be:

1. Catless downpipes ($500-$700)
2. Dual Cone Intake ($100-$300)
3. Intercooler but that would be third priciest at around $1000!
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do a turbo back exhaust system and run stage 2. You can also bug Shiv daily like i do for the meth kit :-D
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stage 2 is good with exhaust only? I can get a dci right now but I wont even feel it. I think exhaust will be next.
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How much are you willing to spend?

I think your next best options would be:

1. Catless downpipes ($500-$700)
2. Dual Cone Intake ($100-$300)
3. Intercooler but that would be third priciest at around $1000!
for some reason Im afraid to do the catless downpipes for warranty reasons, although I heard it adds decent power.
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you can't run stage 2 without catless DP though
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you can't run stage 2 without catless DP though
damn..are the catless dp's very noticeable to techs?
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damn..are the catless dp's very noticeable to techs?
Well it depends...only sort of noticeable when they're under the car. And it won't be a problem until you have warranty related issues. Like I said, every dealer is different, some dealers are still willing to perform warranty work as long as you put back the stock DPs.
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You're only option is to go with the catless downpipes, you can't beat the power to money ratio. With an exhaust, at most you will gain 10-15 hp, and a full system will cost much more than downpipes.
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Have you tried 100 octane yet? That will yield more incremental power than DPs, IC, and DCI combined.
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At some point you need to start removing restrictions.... like the factory airbox, exhaust, and dowpipes. Then add FMIC to get you to stage 3
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      02-10-2009, 08:59 PM   #12
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I would get an intake and exhaust to help the engine breathe, which should open up a few extra ponnies..

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Have you tried 100 octane yet? That will yield more incremental power than DPs, IC, and DCI combined.
There is none in my area and its just temporary. unless I want to go broke.
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I think I'll just do the downpipes. My dealer and I have a good relationship.
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IC is nice to your engine.
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Well I tried, turning into a Shiv's ho thread...

You might consider the IC first, I think that is the better component in terms of power and reliability. Shiv recommends the Helix, I have the Code 3 Spearco but they're similar.
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Well I tried, turning into a Shiv's ho thread...

You might consider the IC first, I think that is the better component in terms of power and reliability. Shiv recommends the Helix, I have the Code 3 Spearco but they're similar.
honestly I think I'd rather get a better intercooler first. Better for the engine and it looks better. Ill start saving.
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I honestly think getting an open air intake will definitely help you out for sure...you need to let the engine breathe better and the helene filter actually does balls...just effective like OEM filter...I think with limited funds for now, you can pick up an intake used!
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Ive been stage 3....

I'd get intake first, then jump to IC if your town is usually warm (80+) otherwise get DP's.

If you have the cash, jump straight to turbo upgrade. Getting all the little bolt ons doesnt give you the same amount of umph the Procede gave you alone.

Take the $$ you would dump on IC, DP, Exhaust and get a set of new turbos. If your too worried about warranty thing go with the first plan I suggested. Your not forced to buy from the vendors on this forum... Some local shops can custom make the same mods for less.
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I have the Active Autowerks intercooler... Why doenst any one ever suggest that one. Works wonders for me
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Ive been stage 3....

I'd get intake first, then jump to IC if your town is usually warm (80+) otherwise get DP's.

If you have the cash, jump straight to turbo upgrade. Getting all the little bolt ons doesnt give you the same amount of umph the Procede gave you alone.

Take the $$ you would dump on IC, DP, Exhaust and get a set of new turbos. If your too worried about warranty thing go with the first plan I suggested. Your not forced to buy from the vendors on this forum... Some local shops can custom make the same mods for less.
Turbo upgrades although it may yield more power, there hasn't been any concrete products produced and tested yet! I see threads about it but nothing substantial to warrant even a upgrade is available now to be sold for our cars....Intake is definitely a must and should be first with a tune
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I want more power but I dont have the needed funds. Im on stage 1 with a helene drop in and run 93 octane. Im on his latest maps as well. This tune is so consistent that I feel I need more power already. what can I do to get more power without spending a ton? Thanks for any input. I havent played with the setting yet because I havent set everything up yet. Ill be good to go in a few days.
Get DCI and run 100oct with user torque at 100%. I run Stage 1 non-DD with DCI and with 100oct made 369whp. With my 265/30/19 Falken 452, I can spin in second from a roll. That should keep you happy for a little while. I'm moving on to DPs and stage 2 because I've got that itch again for more power.
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