[GAMEOVR]

Reviewed:
This is my review for the new Procede unit that I always wanted to try, but just never got around to doing it at the time. As far as other performance tunes I had include: Dinan (stage2), SSTT, JB1, and AA processer. With this said, I have read tons and tons of information and I am very unbiased in reviews as I know two things can’t always be right unless tested back to back, but then still again, it’s STILL not the same. I take things for what it is, and could careless about the tuner war, I’m happy so far the community and tuners got this car for what it really is, with or with out fights, I thank them for that. I have no allegiance to any of them and I will try to be as objective as possible.

The numbers and dyno tell me that (before reviewing it) that Procede is a very powerful tune and smooth. I’m all about being smooth and problem less, the more I can just snap in and go, the more it makes me happier. I will cover the installation later, but that is another topic. The car feels as it should be, the RPM is just music and opera, so gorgeous, but yet so peaceful. The car should of came this way stock, and you know what, if you put a driver in an M3 or a tuned (V3) and had them pick, guess which they would pick? For raw power (everyday,daily) the 335, it’s so addicting, I find myself just going to drive the car when I’m bored, it’s so fun.

I find this tune made perfectly to the point, in where if you were low in the RPM band, you don’t get jerked all over the place such as other tunes. I’m a fan of low end torque over high horse power just because it’s more practical because I would never find myself going 140+ daily. The V3 verse other tunes have that low end power I am looking for and I feel rather very low “piggy lag” compared to other tunes. The only other tune that I have had that I can compare to would be the Dinan Stage 2, just because the other tunes I had would never compare to the amount of power that is presented by these two tunes.

The Dinan was nice because it was a flash, sure it was smooth, but was it worth the price tag? Some say yes, some say no. I say it was rather high, and what got me more pissed was the on and off agreement about the warranty issue. I called Dinan a few times, anonymously, and as myself, but they could never give me a clear answer, that on there part was bad service. Now on the tune itself, was nice, it wasn’t about performance but felt very comparable to an SSTT. To me, I didn’t get that throw back feature, or that high torque feels, I feel on the V3. The Dinan was a very conservable due to the fact incase anything broke they had to foot the bill, but I always knew this and wasn’t expecting much, just a double shot of boost. The peak for Dinan that I saw was about 14.1. The most I am seeing on the V3 is around 13.8 on stage 1, since I am only running intake and 2nd cat delete. When driving the Dinan car it seemed as I had to wait to get that punch I wanted, that is where the V3 is very addicting, the pinch kicks in right from the start. As for shifting, they are booth smooth and I was happy on both accounts in that department.

I find that the V3 is very powerful and pulls right to the next RPM. The Dinan seemed to taper off to a lower boost at the end of a cycle, which felt like it had to build up more on the next pull, in which sounded like more work. I like how the V3 pulls right to the next RPM, the car just pulls and pulls, it feels so crazy at times. I know I didn’t run stage 3 Dinan, just because I didn’t want their oil cooler or the spearco cooler at the time, but I doubt it would even pull this hard now, based on stage 2.

I can also confirm that gas mileage is improved on the V3, I didn’t do much fuel calculations on the Dinan, but I am getting much better MGP overall. This will pay for the tune itself over the amount of gas you will spend. My gf/brother sit in my car and really seem to get the quote, “Am I in the front seat or the backseat?” I’m like I know, it’s so addicting. I can’t wait to see the car once Riss Racing sends out the pipes, then have to decide on an intercooler to run the ultimate set up I might be driving the car from the trunk soon.

Don’t get me wrong, Dinan is a very nice tune for the peace of mind, but the V3 is at the top game right now. I don’t think I would waste my time or money messing up with JB3, just because they seem to be at the same game right now. I give props when props are due and both these guys have put in their fair share to make their own product what it is. I have talked to Shiv a few times in PM and e-mail and has been very fast in writing back to me and what not, I really like this in which is an A+ in my book!

Shipping:
I ordered mine at the full price, right before the special was introduced, so it kind of sucked paying double, but it was well worth it. My order somehow got forgotten, but after a quick e-mail, shiv overnighted my order to me for FREE!! Thanks!!

Packaging:
The box arrived at my door which I spotted about 200 feet away when I was pulling up my driveway. Everything was packaged so neat and clean, I was very happy. Everything arrived in working condition and fitted together. Thank god for bubble wrap!

Installation:
This was my second time fooling around with the ECU, but I am so glad they came out with the PNP harness because it was such a life saver, everything snapped right together, and I was in heaven within 25 mins. I left the same “doomsday” software that came on it and fired it right up. My next task is to run the long usb wire to the glovebox. Everything is very straightforward, just follow the directions and be on your way. If you have the video on wireless, then you are as good as gold. Plus you can always get live e-mail support, it’s lighting fast.

Overall:
I am very happy with this tune, take a look at it or take a “test” ride in a car you will also get to feel the power.

[Hit_Apex]

don’t think I would waste my time or money messing up with JB3

Strange comment for a V3 / Dinan comparo. What's the agenda here?

[sflgator]

Wow; what a great, detailed and honest review...glad you're enjoying your new found PROcede v3.2 335i "beast."

[cn555ic]

Originally Posted by Hit_Apex

Strange comment for a V3 / Dinan comparo. What's the agenda here?

I think your reading into it way too much...OP is just stating that he loves his new tune which is REVII and right now he feels its better than the DINAN tune and after reviewing comparison dynos between V3 and JB3, he felt graphs for V3 seemed smoother...

[GAMEOVR]

Originally Posted by Hit_Apex

Strange comment for a V3 / Dinan comparo. What's the agenda here?

As CN said, pretty much on point. As far as the V3/Dinan review it's something you have to feel to understand the power differences are huge. I'm not sure if V3 or the intake plays a nice roll in feeling more push, but I doubt Dinan has any code in their software to have a difference intake take effect, and I'm sure that gives more breathing room. The power is night and day on the LOW BAND, the high end is comparable, but the low band... V3 launches like NO OTHER, every time and just as smooth as a flash.

As far as the JB3 comment, no reason to spend the extra 600$ and try it out when I know it will be very same performance. I know both tuners try hard and help the community in every way possible, but not the time to shell out the same money for something that will be close numbers wise. I just have a personal view that the V3 is more smooth based on dyno graphs, I will be doing a few dynojet once I get my pipes and FMIC installed.

Originally Posted by sflgator

Wow; what a great, detailed and honest review...glad you're enjoying your new found PROcede v3.2 335i "beast."

Thanks, I try to punch and I got a lot of opens roads.... boy it feels good to fly.

Originally Posted by cn555ic

I think your reading into it way too much...OP is just stating that he loves his new tune which is REVII and right now he feels its better than the DINAN tune and after reviewing comparison dynos between V3 and JB3, he felt graphs for V3 seemed smoother...

+1

[Garissimo]

Originally Posted by GAMEOVR

Reviewed:

[...]

The Dinan was nice because it was a flash, sure it was smooth, but was it worth the price tag? Some say yes, some say no. I say it was rather high, and what got me more pissed was the on and off agreement about the warranty issue. I called Dinan a few times, anonymously, and as myself, but they could never give me a clear answer, that on there part was bad service.

[...]

I don't understand this. Did you have a warranty issue that wasn't covered by either BMW or Dinan?

[GAMEOVR]

Originally Posted by Garissimo

I don't understand this. Did you have a warranty issue that wasn't covered by either BMW or Dinan?

No, but when I buy a product and I am told an answer, I want a clear yet defined answer. Every time I would call, I would get some excuse, please talk to your Dinan local dealer and those service adviser are as good as a worker that is uneducated. They don't know about their own product on simple services, like they will know about Dinan, please.

When the whole talks came up about the whole splitting with BMW, they never gave an ample discussion on what the final word would be. Would you buy a BMW and not be clear if there is a warranty? It goes hand and hand. Make the customer feel re insured and you will have a client for years.

From the talks of my local rep, I asked what would happen in a situation like this, it seemed as BMW and Dinan would just point fingers at each other and nothing gets done, does that seem something is worth 2,000$ for? A game of pointing fingers? I don't think so..... Anyhow this thread is about V3 not how I felt as a person with my experience with Dinan.

[gtrokin330]

Another Rev II on NY streets, congrats Mike!

[Garissimo]

Originally Posted by GAMEOVR

No, but when I buy a product and I am told an answer, I want a clear yet defined answer. Every time I would call, I would get some excuse, please talk to your Dinan local dealer and those service adviser are as good as a worker that is uneducated. They don't know about their own product on simple services, like they will know about Dinan, please.

When the whole talks came up about the whole splitting with BMW, they never gave an ample discussion on what the final word would be. Would you buy a BMW and not be clear if there is a warranty? It goes hand and hand. Make the customer feel re insured and you will have a client for years.

From the talks of my local rep, I asked what would happen in a situation like this, it seemed as BMW and Dinan would just point fingers at each other and nothing gets done, does that seem something is worth 2,000$ for? A game of pointing fingers? I don't think so..... Anyhow this thread is about V3 not how I felt as a person with my experience with Dinan.

The thread is titled Procede vs. Dinan. If you're going to pan the Dinan tune for its cost and supposedly ambiguous warranty coverage, it's worth understanding if that was based on an actual rejected warranty claim or your "gut feel" after calling Dinan anonymously or talking to your service rep.

[GAMEOVR]

Originally Posted by Garissimo

The thread is titled Procede vs. Dinan. If you're going to pan the Dinan tune for its cost and supposedly ambiguous warranty coverage, it's worth understanding if that was based on an actual rejected warranty claim or your "gut feel" after calling Dinan anonymously or talking to your service rep.

First and foremost, I'm not bashing it's cost, trust me I can afford one, I've had one. I've went through numerous mods on my car that cost me an arm and leg, more then others, but very respectable. I am only comparing the tune to tune, the dollar you pay for horse power just doesn't make sense.

As far as claims, since you do have stage 2, if you ever get to the point in needing warranty work, hope all works out for you. For myself, I have other mods then just a simple flash, so I would probably get pushed into the corner.

The only reason I named the thread that because I wanted to give an unbiased review against each other for power input. I'm sure you agree with me that Dinan is not all that powerful, but once you drive in a V3 or drive a V3 car you mind will be made up for power reasons. Dinan is a good choice for people that don't want to be hassled of installing piggybacks and what not, there it is simple.

I can only tell you my own experience, some others have been flawless. My whole Dinan buying experience was great, after I bought and asked a few questions I was ignored or the rep on the phone had another call. A customer that supports the company shouldn't be treated that way, be honest, or go home. I could careless about claims, since I didn't need any, but if I did, I'm not sure how it would go... Warranty is a big word in my eyes, not sure if they would be so eager to foot charges of the repair, compared as they were very eager to take our money for a "flash."

[GAMEOVR]

Originally Posted by gtrokin330

Another Rev II on NY streets, congrats Mike!

Thanks Josh, you got one too? Right

[Garissimo]

Originally Posted by GAMEOVR

First and foremost, I'm not bashing it's cost, trust me I can afford one, I've had one. I've went through numerous mods on my car that cost me an arm and leg, more then others, but very respectable. I am only comparing the tune to tune, the dollar you pay for horse power just doesn't make sense.

As far as claims, since you do have stage 2, if you ever get to the point in needing warranty work, hope all works out for you. For myself, I have other mods then just a simple flash, so I would probably get pushed into the corner.

The only reason I named the thread that because I wanted to give an unbiased review against each other for power input. I'm sure you agree with me that Dinan is not all that powerful, but once you drive in a V3 or drive a V3 car you mind will be made up for power reasons. Dinan is a good choice for people that don't want to be hassled of installing piggybacks and what not, there it is simple.

I can only tell you my own experience, some others have been flawless. My whole Dinan buying experience was great, after I bought and asked a few questions I was ignored or the rep on the phone had another call. A customer that supports the company shouldn't be treated that way, be honest, or go home. I could careless about claims, since I didn't need any, but if I did, I'm not sure how it would go... Warranty is a big word in my eyes, not sure if they would be so eager to foot charges of the repair, compared as they were very eager to take our money for a "flash."

Thanks for the context. I agree that if you're doing other mods you are in a very gray area as far as Dinan coverage is concerned.

And I also agree that at the top end, the Dinan leaves you wanting more. It falls a bit flat and does not have that mad rush to redline people describe with the V3 and JB3.

Thanks for your review, BTW.

[GAMEOVR]

Originally Posted by Garissimo

Thanks for the context. I agree that if you're doing other mods you are in a very gray area as far as Dinan coverage is concerned.

And I also agree that at the top end, the Dinan leaves you wanting more. It falls a bit flat and does not have that mad rush to redline people describe with the V3 and JB3.

Thanks for your review, BTW.

Anytime, thanks for understanding... The redline pulling is addicting. I also love how you can switch off the tune at the switch of a button, makes you less bored.

[cn555ic]

Originally Posted by GAMEOVR

Anytime, thanks for understanding... The redline pulling is addicting. I also love how you can switch off the tune at the switch of a button, makes you less bored.

What about messing around with the Procede Readers adjustments, that quite addicting too....Fast and the Furious kind of!!!! Well with the Meth that coming along with the tune, thats really not too far from the truth!!

[runningman]

If it comes with a 14 day return you should return it and buy it back at the lower price. Got to save where you can.

[GAMEOVR]

Originally Posted by runningman

If it comes with a 14 day return you should return it and buy it back at the lower price. Got to save where you can.

Good idea But the hassle is so annoying.

[cstavaru]

Originally Posted by Hit_Apex

Strange comment for a V3 / Dinan comparo. What's the agenda here?

I see a lot of Procede vs JB3 comparisons here lately. What's the catch ? Is someone giving a discount if you write a comparative like this ?

[enrita]

Originally Posted by cstavaru

I see a lot of Procede vs JB3 comparisons here lately. What's the catch ? Is someone giving a discount if you write a comparative like this ?

Correct, you get a special discounted price if you write a "nice" review ....

[scottp999]

Originally Posted by enrita

Correct, you get a special discounted price if you write a "nice" review ....

"Provide a comprehensive and honest review..."

Hopefully they are all honest.

[lawdude]

Originally Posted by enrita

Correct, you get a special discounted price if you write a "nice" review ....

Can't find where you got that info.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by enrita

Correct, you get a special discounted price if you write a "nice" review ....

Not quite. The discount is given when the purchaser provides proof of having a prior tune(s). Our request is that they provide US(directly) with feedback comparing the PROcede to their previous tune(s). If they want to post their findings on the forum, as they have been doing, that is 100% their decision. They could, theoretically, post up a bad review if they want and still keep the discount. But, in the end, everyone just wants the best tune for their car and is willing to put aside this ridiculious tuner loyalty. Well, most everyone.

Shiv

[Presidio335xi]

Originally Posted by GAMEOVR

No, but when I buy a product and I am told an answer, I want a clear yet defined answer. ......Would you buy a BMW and not be clear if there is a warranty?

Speaking JUST about warranty.....I feel like most people on this forum DONT UNDERSTAND how warranties work.

There is NO definite clear defined answer when it comes to it. Every car manufactorer is the same. If you run over a curb and break your axel the 2nd day you own you car BMW will not cover that under warranty. If you have a Dinan tune but have downpipes and backpressure sucks a small metal fragment into the turbos bc the downpipes weren't put on correctly Dinan will not cover you under warranty.

It is very simple. Warranties don't cover everything.