[AndyR]

I'm toying with the idea of getting a 335i, and if so going for a remap (either Evolve or DMS). The questions I have are:

I am aware that the 335d was not available with a manual transmission due to it been unable to cope with the torque of the diesel lump (580nM); so if I remap a manual 335i which has std torque of 400nM; upto 500nM (Evolve Figures); will I be asking for trouble???

The other option that I did not really want to do as I don't want an auto, is to get an auto box, and assuming it is the same as the diesels (correct me if I am wrong) It will have no problems as the remapped torque figures are below that of the std deisel?

Anyone with a remapped manual had/having any problems??

Thanks in Advance

Andy

[marlie]

Mate i have manual and got a remap from Evolve, had No problems!! love it!!!

[threethirty]

Just for info, I had my Audi S3 remapped and the clutch only lasted a few weeks afterwards. I had to have a rather expensive uprated clutch fitted. Not sure if BMW remappers have had the same experience.

[willhollin]

Is the gearbox the same in the 335i as in the 330d?

EDIT - Just checked and they appear to be, so I would have no doubt the 335i will be fine remapped with the extra torque.

I am sure that lovely young man Imran will be around soon.

[G33]

no problems here....yet

[Steve A]

Originally Posted by AndyR

I'm toying with the idea of getting a 335i, and if so going for a remap (either Evolve or DMS). The questions I have are:

I am aware that the 335d was not available with a manual transmission due to it been unable to cope with the torque of the diesel lump (580nM); so if I remap a manual 335i which has std torque of 400nM; upto 500nM (Evolve Figures); will I be asking for trouble???

The other option that I did not really want to do as I don't want an auto, is to get an auto box, and assuming it is the same as the diesels (correct me if I am wrong) It will have no problems as the remapped torque figures are below that of the std deisel?

Anyone with a remapped manual had/having any problems??

Thanks in Advance

Andy

i think the real reason you cant buy the 335d in manual from is more to do with not embarrasing the 335i rather than the gearbox not handling the torque.

[G33]

Originally Posted by Steve A

i think the real reason you cant buy the 335d in manual from is more to do with not embarrasing the 335i rather than the gearbox not handling the torque.

so a manual 335d will be quicker than the 335i with manual??? is that what u mean?

[doughboy]

Originally Posted by willhollin

Is the gearbox the same in the 335i as in the 330d?

EDIT - Just checked and they appear to be, so I would have no doubt the 335i will be fine remapped with the extra torque.

I am sure that lovely young man Imran will be around soon.

The 335i and 335d autobox is identical???

That seems odd, diesel boxes need higher and more widely spaced ratios to work with the lower revving engines?

[Steve A]

Originally Posted by G33

so a manual 335d will be quicker than the 335i with manual??? is that what u mean?

i wouldnt bet againt it Kin.

[E92Fan]

Originally Posted by doughboy

The 335i and 335d autobox is identical???

That seems odd, diesel boxes need higher and more widely spaced ratios to work with the lower revving engines?

No, the autobox between the 335i and 335d is different - same basic design, but different planetary gear sets and ratios. The torque rating for the 335d box is also higher - 335i uses a 6HP19TU whereas the 335d ueses a 6HP26

[doughboy]

Originally Posted by E92Fan

No, the autobox between the 335i and 335d is different - same basic design, but different planetary gear sets and ratios. The torque rating for the 335d box is also higher - 335i uses a 6HP19TU whereas the 335d ueses a 6HP26

That makes sense - I knew they wouldn't be the same.

Physical torque ratings for manual boxes are high enough, but it's the driver's possible poor control of the manual clutch which is the weakpoint as far as production reliability goes.

When tuning Escort RS turbos', the first thing you did was fit the clutch from a diesel escort van to handle the extra torque....

[willhollin]

Originally Posted by doughboy

The 335i and 335d autobox is identical???

That seems odd, diesel boxes need higher and more widely spaced ratios to work with the lower revving engines?

Thought we were talking manuals???


According to RealOEM the 335i and the 330d share the same manual box, which is what I was getting at. No doubt the gear ratios, clutch, driveshaft etc. will be different.

[doughboy]

Originally Posted by willhollin

Thought we were talking manuals???


According to RealOEM the 335i and the 330d share the same manual box, which is what I was getting at. No doubt the gear ratios, clutch, driveshaft etc. will be different.

The initial post was talking about 335i v 335d torque outputs, he asked about the autoboxes of the said cars and asked if they were the same part / rating. (para 3)

Then you replied saying 330d which I though was a typo....

Sorry for confusion....

[dxb335d]

Originally Posted by doughboy

That makes sense - I knew they wouldn't be the same.

Physical torque ratings for manual boxes are high enough, but it's the driver's possible poor control of the manual clutch which is the weakpoint as far as production reliability goes.

When tuning Escort RS turbos', the first thing you did was fit the clutch from a diesel escort van to handle the extra torque....

Some people did that unde the assumption is was a better clutch. It was slightly more durable but no good for serious power.

I have AP one in mine.

[Imran@Evolve]

Originally Posted by willhollin

Is the gearbox the same in the 335i as in the 330d?

EDIT - Just checked and they appear to be, so I would have no doubt the 335i will be fine remapped with the extra torque.

I am sure that lovely young man Imran will be around soon.

Why thank you Will

Marlie has been running his evolve tuned manual 335i for a while now and although he drives like Miss Daisy most of the time I am sure he has put it through its paces when he is late for a date with his girlfriend

As Will said the gearbox is the same and there is a lovely young man on here that has an evolve tuned manual 330d with just under 500 ft/lbs of torque IIRC and has had no issues with it thus far.

So the normal evolve remap on the 335i will be fine for the manual box.

[Insider]

Originally Posted by AndyR

I'm toying with the idea of getting a 335i, and if so going for a remap (either Evolve or DMS). The questions I have are:

I am aware that the 335d was not available with a manual transmission due to it been unable to cope with the torque of the diesel lump (580nM); so if I remap a manual 335i which has std torque of 400nM; upto 500nM (Evolve Figures); will I be asking for trouble???

The other option that I did not really want to do as I don't want an auto, is to get an auto box, and assuming it is the same as the diesels (correct me if I am wrong) It will have no problems as the remapped torque figures are below that of the std deisel?

Anyone with a remapped manual had/having any problems??

Thanks in Advance

Andy

There are modified 335i's in the states putting out MORE torque than a 335d, and no problems with the transmission.

[willhollin]

Originally Posted by Insider

There are modified 335i's in the states putting out MORE torque than a 335d, and no problems with the transmission.

Manual or auto?

What sort of figure?

[G33]

how much torque does a 335d have remapped?

[SiKkBaSs]

Originally Posted by G33

how much torque does a 335d have remapped?

...

[willhollin]

Originally Posted by G33

how much torque does a 335d have remapped?

Around 700nm.

[dxb335d]

about 6 Chronicles full

[Insider]

Originally Posted by willhollin

Manual or auto?

What sort of figure?

Both. 430 torque at the wheels, which is over 500 at the engine.