Wow... Wow... Wow... ! (E92 M3 remapped @ Evolve)

biscuits · 04-02-2009, 12:20 PM

Look at this bad boy !

Dr.Crap · 04-02-2009, 12:22 PM

Would this be your car?

Can you tell the difference when driving?

Bigamos · 04-02-2009, 12:23 PM

E92 M3???????????????

biscuits · 04-02-2009, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Crap

Would this be your car? Can you tell the difference when driving?

Yes and yes, it feels sharper...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigamos

E92 M3???????????????

Sure is

E92Fan · 04-02-2009, 12:28 PM

Fab Paul

Still going to be faster than you though

What was the power at the wheels, before and after ?? That's the true reflection of what's going on with your car... must feel mega now!!!

AND I ASSUME YOU'RE GOING TO BRING IT TO THE 'RING IN MAY SO WE CAN SEE WHAT'S WHAT!!!!!!

mikem · 04-02-2009, 01:13 PM

`Can`t read the numbers clearly enough but the IT looks higher than the AT ??

E92Fan · 04-02-2009, 02:42 PM

Yup - AT says 16, IT says 26..

Speedtrap · 04-02-2009, 02:57 PM

Thats a big improvement over stock. Is it with stock exhaust?

booforty · 04-02-2009, 03:20 PM

How much was the Remap Paul? PM me details if you like

lolololol · 04-02-2009, 03:39 PM

As mentioned on a differnt thread I was at Evolve today and saw this car on the dyno. Outside of the obvious crazy power shown on the graph, the noise this car makes is earth shattering - sounds like an American Muscle V8.

Lovely car, even better sound !!!!

biscuits · 04-02-2009, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikem

`Can`t read the numbers clearly enough but the IT looks higher than the AT ??

Ambient Temp is lower than Intake Temp... As it should be, but not crazy high which could effect the results... shows the airbox chimney is working well

Quote:

Originally Posted by E92Fan

Fab Paul

Still going to be faster than you though

What was the power at the wheels, before and after ?? That's the true reflection of what's going on with your car... must feel mega now!!!
AND I ASSUME YOU'RE GOING TO BRING IT TO THE 'RING IN MAY SO WE CAN SEE WHAT'S WHAT!!!!!!

Didn't get a copy of the RWHP, just the above. Still won't be as quick as you, but the DXB is still king of the castle!

BMSport catback system sounded AWSOME, not earpiercingly loud, just real throaty

I'm sure Sal or Imran will explain the remap results better than I could....

M3-FAST · 04-02-2009, 05:55 PM

Excellent results there biscuits

How does it feel on the road? Does the 0-60 feel quicker or is mid-range punchier?

Just curious as to where you feel it has improved the car the most?

biscuits · 04-02-2009, 05:58 PM

There's a definate difference over 5,500rpm . . .

willhollin · 04-02-2009, 06:00 PM

Hmmmmm torque is a little low.

biscuits · 04-02-2009, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willhollin

Hmmmmm torque is a little low.

Compared to your van... well... yes...

Hoops · 04-02-2009, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E92Fan

Still going to be faster than you though

Maybe so Tone, but i know what I'd rather be driving!!!

Paul - great looking graph matey - will be booking my M into Evolve as soon as i sort the exhaust out - hope to see you on the Ring trip buddy, if not then defo the M3 meet im organising!!

biscuits · 04-03-2009, 06:38 AM

No one think this is amazing for a normally asperated engine ? 26hp !

beemerbird · 04-03-2009, 06:43 AM

Funningly enough Paul, I commented to t'other half about the power gain for a N/A petrol engine. I'm defo. no expert but know enough to appreciate it is quite a 'jump'.

Glad you're pleased with it.

Hoops · 04-03-2009, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biscuits

No one think this is amazing for a normally asperated engine ? 26hp !

Paul - its a very good gain. Can you TELL and FEEL the difference when you drive the car - does it honestly feel worth the while doing???
Would i also be right in thinking that you have gained about 6bhp with just the exhaust??

biscuits · 04-03-2009, 07:30 AM

Right... what I originally posted was a graph that showed a pretty unrealisic, but awsome bhp gain due to a remap (on a NA car).

I spent a long time chatting with Sal and Imran discussing how a lot of people claim "hidden 20bhp on M3, M5 & M6's that can be unlocked with a remap", claims that could aparently be proven with dyno charts.

What Sal did is run my car in 3rd gear and then again in 4th gear. I'm not even going to try and atempt to explain this, as I simply don't know the technicalities, but in simpleton terms, the ECU mapping works using engine loading, not simply on fuel and air mixture ratios, so if you can load up a car really heavily (like on a dyno can, more than you can on the road). So if using the same dyno, you pull tricks like using 4th gear instead of 3rd gear, unhook the Intake Temp probe after the first run and stick it near the radiator, and so on, you can get some big gains SHOWN.

Here is the answer:

So... after yesterdays runs, the exhaust has put a few horses on and the remap needs to settle-in (adapt) before we can see the full gain. I'm popping in again next week to do another run to find out the full extent of the remap.

Oh... just incase anyone out there who thinks running standard unleaded (95) is okay and that VPower is a waste of money... on an M3 it make a big difference, it varies but about 20bhp !!! Every E9x M3 they have had that was underperforming was on 95RON, all the ones showing book figures were using VPower

Hoops · 04-03-2009, 07:33 AM

Paul - there was nothing showing under your quote "here is the answer??"
I always use Shell V Power - so thats a plus!!
Can you just answer my previous post about the feel of the car etc. Ta!!

booforty · 04-03-2009, 07:35 AM

Great stuff Paul

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