Dealer says ED pricing set in stone by BMW

kuthair · 07-28-2006, 10:02 AM

Hi,

I just got off the phone with my CA. I told him I was interested in European Delivery. He told me it's a set price by BMW. So I asked him what the price is and first he said $33110 and then took it back, "oops thats not the right number" and said it's $35990 + $695 dest.

What do you guys think? Should I try and talk him down or try a different dealer?

Josh49 · 07-28-2006, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by kuthair

Hi,

I just got off the phone with my CA. I told him I was interested in European Delivery. He told me it's a set price by BMW. So I asked him what the price is and first he said $33110 and then took it back, "oops thats not the right number" and said it's $35990 + $695 dest.

What do you guys think? Should I try and talk him down or try a different dealer?

Always try getting quotes from different dealers..

Unless money on this scale divided by the time it would take to make a few more phone calls is less than the rate you are paid to work, I'd give it a shot..

HoosBMW · 07-28-2006, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by kuthair

Hi,

I just got off the phone with my CA. I told him I was interested in European Delivery. He told me it's a set price by BMW. So I asked him what the price is and first he said $33110 and then took it back, "oops thats not the right number" and said it's $35990 + $695 dest.

What do you guys think? Should I try and talk him down or try a different dealer?

talk to the internet sales department at any dealership...you will get a way better deal

selm · 07-28-2006, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kuthair

Hi,

I just got off the phone with my CA. I told him I was interested in European Delivery. He told me it's a set price by BMW. So I asked him what the price is and first he said $33110 and then took it back, "oops thats not the right number" and said it's $35990 + $695 dest.

What do you guys think? Should I try and talk him down or try a different dealer?

What he told you is incorrect.

Many dealers have a CA that specializes in ED, so you may want to work with that person instead. Especially since you will be visiting the dealer a couple of times during the process and it is generally best to work with the person who is doing the communication with BMW.

Ghunger · 07-28-2006, 10:46 AM

My CA tried that with me when I first talked to him but I let him know that I knew that the ED cars didn't come out of their allocation and that I would like to price the car from invoice. (I had the invoice pricing sheet with me) After he found out I was well informed on the ED process the negotiation went much better.

thekewl1 · 07-28-2006, 10:53 AM

your CA is

-ing u. check my sig, I think ED MSRP was like 43K~44K w/o tax and license, but I got all that for 40K including tax and license. U should shop around and look for a dealer that has experience w/ED. It will save you alot of pain later.

RichReg · 07-28-2006, 10:56 AM

Guys...all of these conflicting quotes on E.D. prices has got me wondering.

Where the fu-whack is the Official '07 E90 Pricing PDF???

kuthair · 07-28-2006, 11:00 AM

ok, called a second dealer. he offered me $33,110 no options. I was like wow, so if I come in there today, that's the price you'll give me. He said yes, 2 mins later he's like uh, thats a mistake the price is $35,990. Then he said we can meet in the middle.

mkoesel · 07-28-2006, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by kuthair

Hi,

I just got off the phone with my CA. I told him I was interested in European Delivery. He told me it's a set price by BMW. So I asked him what the price is and first he said $33110 and then took it back, "oops thats not the right number" and said it's $35990 + $695 dest.

What do you guys think? Should I try and talk him down or try a different dealer?

The number you care about is the first one he gave $33,110. That's the ED invoice price. The second number is ED MSRP. Don't pay that. Try to talk him down. Some dealers will negotiate, some will not. If he will not, just go somewhere else.

As one poster already pointed out, it helps if you mention that you have the ED Invoice prices in hand. If you need invoice prices for options, use the 2006 E90 pricing document for now since, as Rich said, the 2007 sheet is MIA. Most of them are the same price this year, except for premium package and Nav, which went up slightly.

mkoesel · 07-28-2006, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by kuthair

ok, called a second dealer. he offered me $33,110 no options. I was like wow, so if I come in there today, that's the price you'll give me. He said yes, 2 mins later he's like uh, thats a mistake the price is $35,990. Then he said we can meet in the middle.

That's not a bad price. You may be able to do better. Some people are getting $1000 over invoice, and one person has even claimed $800 a while back.

I have read of people getting $1000 in New York (somewhat near you).

kuthair · 07-28-2006, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

The number you care about is the first one he gave $33,110. That's the ED invoice price. The second number is ED MSRP. Don't pay that. Try to talk him down. Some dealers will negotiate, some will not. If he will not, just go somewhere else.

As one poster already pointed out, it helps if you mention that you have the ED Invoice prices in hand. If you need invoice prices for options, use the 2006 E90 pricing document for now since, as Rich said, the 2007 sheet is MIA. Most of them are the same price this year, except for premium package and Nav, which went up slightly.

Thanks! I'm gonna call him back this weekend and tell him I have all invoice prices and go from there. I did some quick math, and the invoice is about 91% (+/- 0.5% mostly due to rounding) of the msrp for all the options including sticker.

CALIF65GM · 07-28-2006, 09:53 PM

I'd keep walking or e-mailing until you find a legit dealer that knows what an ED deal means.

Asiann · 07-28-2006, 09:58 PM

Can't say it enough, shop around till you get what you want!

horatiub · 08-04-2006, 01:21 AM

if I were you, I would offer him invoice price + $1000.

Usually, on ED cars, you negotiate from the invoice price and up. And there are a lot of dealers, even out of state, that will give you $1000 over invoice

TTG · 08-09-2006, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by horatiub

if I were you, I would offer him invoice price + $1000.

Usually, on ED cars, you negotiate from the invoice price and up. And there are a lot of dealers, even out of state, that will give you $1000 over invoice

100% agreed! The person you talked to BS'ed you a little!

horatiub · 08-09-2006, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TTG

100% agreed! The person you talked to BS'ed you a little!

he should be really looking at an out of state dealer, if the local ones don't wanna negotiate.

IrvRobinson · 08-11-2006, 08:59 AM

always shop around and then if you have two dealers that are close in price,find out who has the most experience, along with being at that Dealership for a while,and also the CA that you're most comfortable dealing with, you generally know right away,if they are going to be the one

67bmer · 08-11-2006, 06:54 PM

I had to work really hard to get $750 off MSRP on an e92 for October.

If it would have been an e90, they would typically do $1500 off MSRP.

I was really disapointed. But they said on a car that new, and limited availability for now, they just would not budge.

kuthair · 08-11-2006, 09:55 PM

After making some phone calls I ended up negotiating to 1200 over. Prolly could have gotten 1000 but I was tired of negotiating and for what another $200 that works out to just a couple of dollars a month in the car payment.

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Ghunger Major 56 Rep 1,024 Posts Drives: 330i Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Seattle, WA iTrader: (0)	My CA tried that with me when I first talked to him but I let him know that I knew that the ED cars didn't come out of their allocation and that I would like to price the car from invoice. (I had the invoice pricing sheet with me) After he found out I was well informed on the ED process the negotiation went much better. __________________ 330i Monaco Blue, Terra /w aluminum trim, SP, PP, CA, PDC, Nav, Folding Seats, Sat Prep European Delivery Blog Picture Gallery
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thekewl1 Lieutenant 13 Rep 552 Posts Drives: 09 335i Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: So Cal iTrader: (3)	your CA is -ing u. check my sig, I think ED MSRP was like 43K~44K w/o tax and license, but I got all that for 40K including tax and license. U should shop around and look for a dealer that has experience w/ED. It will save you alot of pain later. __________________ Delivered: 10/21/08 \| 09 e92 335i\|AW\|CR\|PP\|SP\|NAV\|PDC\|CA\|6MT\|iPod\|Logic7 Sold: 06 330i/Mystic Blue\|Terra\|PP\|SP\|NAV\|CA\|6MT\|Butt Warmers\|Rear Shades\|Fold Down Seats
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RichReg Colonel 122 Rep 2,099 Posts Drives: 2015 435Xi GC & 2000 323Ci. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	Guys...all of these conflicting quotes on E.D. prices has got me wondering. Where the fu-whack is the Official '07 E90 Pricing PDF???
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kuthair Captain 11 Rep 613 Posts Drives: 07 335i Sedan 6MT Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Connecticut iTrader: (0)	ok, called a second dealer. he offered me $33,110 no options. I was like wow, so if I come in there today, that's the price you'll give me. He said yes, 2 mins later he's like uh, thats a mistake the price is $35,990. Then he said we can meet in the middle.
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horatiub Banned 40 Rep 269 Posts Drives: BMW 325i Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	if I were you, I would offer him invoice price + $1000. Usually, on ED cars, you negotiate from the invoice price and up. And there are a lot of dealers, even out of state, that will give you $1000 over invoice
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IrvRobinson Banned 39 Rep 731 Posts Drives: X3 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	always shop around and then if you have two dealers that are close in price,find out who has the most experience, along with being at that Dealership for a while,and also the CA that you're most comfortable dealing with, you generally know right away,if they are going to be the one
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67bmer Private 25 Rep 77 Posts Drives: BMW 325is, e92 328i Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: md iTrader: (0)	ED dealing I had to work really hard to get $750 off MSRP on an e92 for October. If it would have been an e90, they would typically do $1500 off MSRP. I was really disapointed. But they said on a car that new, and limited availability for now, they just would not budge.
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kuthair Captain 11 Rep 613 Posts Drives: 07 335i Sedan 6MT Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Connecticut iTrader: (0)	After making some phone calls I ended up negotiating to 1200 over. Prolly could have gotten 1000 but I was tired of negotiating and for what another $200 that works out to just a couple of dollars a month in the car payment.
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