Cant put car into 4th gear

g9sBMW · 05-04-2009, 04:56 PM

4th gear is notchy and makes a grinding noise when i shift into 4th.

With the car turned off I can't even throw the shift lever into 4th gear at all.

WHAT DID I DO??

g9sBMW · 05-04-2009, 05:12 PM

if it was my fault then a warranty repair is out of the question right? How much am I looking at for a transmission problem like this?

PaulBailey@ltbmw · 05-04-2009, 05:19 PM

Must engage clutch

jk
Take it to the dealer.
Where in LA are you?

Andrew@ET · 05-04-2009, 07:16 PM

its your syncro I blew my 3rd gear fixed in two days no problems.

g9sBMW · 05-04-2009, 07:58 PM

looks like ill be calling pacific bmw, but takes a week to get appointment and rental car

g9sBMW · 05-04-2009, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew@EMS

its your syncro I blew my 3rd gear fixed in two days no problems.

found what a synchro does. . . ..

A transmission synchronizer (fig. 4-17) has two functions, which are as follows:
1. Lock the main shaft gear to the main shaft.
2. Prevent the gear from clashing or grinding during shifting.

coverred under warranty?

mikeokimster · 05-04-2009, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew@EMS

its your syncro I blew my 3rd gear fixed in two days no problems.

Did they give you a hard time?

e90pilot · 05-04-2009, 08:51 PM

Yup, definatly a syncro. But only one of them is messed up so I'm guessing it's not your fault. ZF is usually pretty good at making tank gearboxes but I guess no one's perfect. Have them check the clutch to make sure it's not dragging. That will also destroy your syncros. But again, if this were the case, all the gears would be bad.

Andrew@ET · 05-04-2009, 09:11 PM

well i blew mine racing before i got the cdv deleted it delayed my shift and it made a grinding noise like ive never heard.

No problem what so ever Um i think my tranny is broken its makes a weird noise when i try to go to 3rd. BAM !

lamia2super · 05-04-2009, 09:16 PM

it could be your diff. when i messed mine up i had some trouble putting it into gear and it made some weird clicking noise.

Andrew@ET · 05-04-2009, 09:25 PM

its the syncro 100% if you try and go into the gear can you feel the gears rubbing against each other? If yes Syncro

g9sBMW · 05-04-2009, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew@EMS

its the syncro 100% if you try and go into the gear can you feel the gears rubbing against each other? If yes Syncro

im just going to skip 4th gear for a while until I have time to take it to bmw.

earliest date was May 14th and i'll be out of the country on my honeymoon.

thanks for the feedback. greatly appreciated and gave me some peace of mind

Andrew@ET · 05-04-2009, 10:00 PM

np buddy

g9sBMW · 05-27-2009, 03:01 PM

Update. . .

g9sBMW · 05-27-2009, 03:03 PM

car in shop since friday. . diagnosis still not available. Kinda scared

in5ane_3 · 05-27-2009, 06:06 PM

Don't worry. If the car is under warranty you're good to go. They won't blame it on you. Def sounds like the syncro is blown, should be an easy fix.

FrankiE90 · 05-27-2009, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g9sBMW

looks like ill be calling pacific bmw, but takes a week to get appointment and rental car

ahhhh.
let us know the update.

Andrew@ET · 05-27-2009, 07:12 PM

no diagnosis..... Doesn't take a master tech to figure this one out

g9sBMW · 06-01-2009, 01:09 PM

Got my car back this morning.
This is what my paper said;

Condition: Customer states clicking/grinding from trans between 3rd and 4th gear,check and advise

Cause: Faulty trans

Correction: Replaced faulty trans, bled clutch and test drove, vehicle is now OK.

NO charge fixed under warranty

jopa489 · 06-01-2009, 08:42 PM

Wait, they gave you a WHOLE new transmission? For what was more than likely a blown syncro? Either that thing was clearly defective from the factory or you did a number on it.

Glad you got it fixed without any aggravation.

g9sBMW · 06-02-2009, 05:59 PM

I'm gonna go with defective from factory, since I don't race the car or push it that hard at all.

This tranny problem will probably make me lean towards extending the 50,000 mile warranty.

I'm currently at 35k after 2 years.

beef1020 · 06-03-2009, 10:44 AM

For what it's worth my guess is these problems are very rare. You probably had a defective unit from the factory, these things happen as no production process is perfect, and that is exactly what the new car warranty is for. To fix defective parts from the factory on the rare occasion they occur. Consider your car very unlucky to have had the problem once, it was fixed, butI seriously doubt it will happen again. This was just a fluke...

05-04-2009, 04:56 PM	#1
g9sBMW Lieutenant 25 Rep 517 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 328i Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (8) Garage List 2007 328i Sedan [0.00]	Cant put car into 4th gear 4th gear is notchy and makes a grinding noise when i shift into 4th. With the car turned off I can't even throw the shift lever into 4th gear at all. WHAT DID I DO?? __________________ [2007 328i\|Black Sapphire\|Terra Leather\|6 MT\|Xenon headlights\|BMW Alarm\|Clear Bra\|Stainless Steel Pedal Pads\|Black Line Tails\|MTEC V3.0 Angel Eyes\|HUPER OPTIK 30 Ceramic TINT\|GPThunder Fogs\|LED License Plate mod\|Sport Shocks/Springs upgrade\|ZHP Shift Knob\|//M Dead Pedal\|Matte Black Grill\|Aluminum Strut Bar\|Cyba Air Scoops\|Rear Fog Switch\|Perforated Mtech Wheel\|Miro 935s\|Hankook v12 evo Tires\|BMW SSK]\| BMW PE
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g9sBMW Lieutenant 25 Rep 517 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 328i Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (8) Garage List 2007 328i Sedan [0.00]	if it was my fault then a warranty repair is out of the question right? How much am I looking at for a transmission problem like this? __________________ [2007 328i\|Black Sapphire\|Terra Leather\|6 MT\|Xenon headlights\|BMW Alarm\|Clear Bra\|Stainless Steel Pedal Pads\|Black Line Tails\|MTEC V3.0 Angel Eyes\|HUPER OPTIK 30 Ceramic TINT\|GPThunder Fogs\|LED License Plate mod\|Sport Shocks/Springs upgrade\|ZHP Shift Knob\|//M Dead Pedal\|Matte Black Grill\|Aluminum Strut Bar\|Cyba Air Scoops\|Rear Fog Switch\|Perforated Mtech Wheel\|Miro 935s\|Hankook v12 evo Tires\|BMW SSK]\| BMW PE
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PaulBailey@ltbmw General 688 Rep 26,876 Posts Drives: 2-325 330 2-335 2-Z4 2-135 X5d Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Huntington Beach, CA iTrader: (34) Garage List 2008 BMW 335i E90 [7.00] 2011 BMW 335i E92 [7.96]	Must engage clutch jk Take it to the dealer. Where in LA are you?
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05-04-2009, 07:16 PM	#4
Andrew@ET Brigadier General 199 Rep 4,037 Posts Drives: Red thing Join Date: May 2007 Location: Earth iTrader: (9)	its your syncro I blew my 3rd gear fixed in two days no problems.
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g9sBMW Lieutenant 25 Rep 517 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 328i Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (8) Garage List 2007 328i Sedan [0.00]	looks like ill be calling pacific bmw, but takes a week to get appointment and rental car __________________ [2007 328i\|Black Sapphire\|Terra Leather\|6 MT\|Xenon headlights\|BMW Alarm\|Clear Bra\|Stainless Steel Pedal Pads\|Black Line Tails\|MTEC V3.0 Angel Eyes\|HUPER OPTIK 30 Ceramic TINT\|GPThunder Fogs\|LED License Plate mod\|Sport Shocks/Springs upgrade\|ZHP Shift Knob\|//M Dead Pedal\|Matte Black Grill\|Aluminum Strut Bar\|Cyba Air Scoops\|Rear Fog Switch\|Perforated Mtech Wheel\|Miro 935s\|Hankook v12 evo Tires\|BMW SSK]\| BMW PE
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05-04-2009, 08:51 PM	#8
e90pilot Freight Dawg 108 Rep 2,103 Posts Drives: E90 325i Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Oakland, CA iTrader: (3)	Yup, definatly a syncro. But only one of them is messed up so I'm guessing it's not your fault. ZF is usually pretty good at making tank gearboxes but I guess no one's perfect. Have them check the clutch to make sure it's not dragging. That will also destroy your syncros. But again, if this were the case, all the gears would be bad. __________________ --Marcelo '06 Arctic Metallic 325i \| Sport Package \| 6MT \| Dinan Stage III suspension \| Dinan exhaust \| 330i manifold swap! Click here! \| Active Autowerke tune \| 135i Brake Calipers \| Deiselboost caliper brackets \| E46 M3 front rotors
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Andrew@ET Brigadier General 199 Rep 4,037 Posts Drives: Red thing Join Date: May 2007 Location: Earth iTrader: (9)	well i blew mine racing before i got the cdv deleted it delayed my shift and it made a grinding noise like ive never heard. No problem what so ever Um i think my tranny is broken its makes a weird noise when i try to go to 3rd. BAM !
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lamia2super Colonel 152 Rep 2,661 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: May 2008 Location: Miami Beach, FL iTrader: (4) Garage List 2007 335i [10.00]	it could be your diff. when i messed mine up i had some trouble putting it into gear and it made some weird clicking noise. __________________ FOR SALE https://www.e90post.com/forums/showt...0#post25342440
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05-04-2009, 09:25 PM	#11
Andrew@ET Brigadier General 199 Rep 4,037 Posts Drives: Red thing Join Date: May 2007 Location: Earth iTrader: (9)	its the syncro 100% if you try and go into the gear can you feel the gears rubbing against each other? If yes Syncro
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Andrew@ET Brigadier General 199 Rep 4,037 Posts Drives: Red thing Join Date: May 2007 Location: Earth iTrader: (9)	np buddy
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05-27-2009, 03:01 PM	#14
g9sBMW Lieutenant 25 Rep 517 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 328i Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (8) Garage List 2007 328i Sedan [0.00]	Update. . . __________________ [2007 328i\|Black Sapphire\|Terra Leather\|6 MT\|Xenon headlights\|BMW Alarm\|Clear Bra\|Stainless Steel Pedal Pads\|Black Line Tails\|MTEC V3.0 Angel Eyes\|HUPER OPTIK 30 Ceramic TINT\|GPThunder Fogs\|LED License Plate mod\|Sport Shocks/Springs upgrade\|ZHP Shift Knob\|//M Dead Pedal\|Matte Black Grill\|Aluminum Strut Bar\|Cyba Air Scoops\|Rear Fog Switch\|Perforated Mtech Wheel\|Miro 935s\|Hankook v12 evo Tires\|BMW SSK]\| BMW PE
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g9sBMW Lieutenant 25 Rep 517 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 328i Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (8) Garage List 2007 328i Sedan [0.00]	car in shop since friday. . diagnosis still not available. Kinda scared __________________ [2007 328i\|Black Sapphire\|Terra Leather\|6 MT\|Xenon headlights\|BMW Alarm\|Clear Bra\|Stainless Steel Pedal Pads\|Black Line Tails\|MTEC V3.0 Angel Eyes\|HUPER OPTIK 30 Ceramic TINT\|GPThunder Fogs\|LED License Plate mod\|Sport Shocks/Springs upgrade\|ZHP Shift Knob\|//M Dead Pedal\|Matte Black Grill\|Aluminum Strut Bar\|Cyba Air Scoops\|Rear Fog Switch\|Perforated Mtech Wheel\|Miro 935s\|Hankook v12 evo Tires\|BMW SSK]\| BMW PE
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05-27-2009, 06:06 PM	#16
in5ane_3 Lieutenant General 255 Rep 16,220 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sun Valley, California iTrader: (3)	Don't worry. If the car is under warranty you're good to go. They won't blame it on you. Def sounds like the syncro is blown, should be an easy fix.
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Andrew@ET Brigadier General 199 Rep 4,037 Posts Drives: Red thing Join Date: May 2007 Location: Earth iTrader: (9)	no diagnosis..... Doesn't take a master tech to figure this one out
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06-01-2009, 01:09 PM	#19
g9sBMW Lieutenant 25 Rep 517 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 328i Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (8) Garage List 2007 328i Sedan [0.00]	Got my car back this morning. This is what my paper said; Condition: Customer states clicking/grinding from trans between 3rd and 4th gear,check and advise Cause: Faulty trans Correction: Replaced faulty trans, bled clutch and test drove, vehicle is now OK. NO charge fixed under warranty __________________ [2007 328i\|Black Sapphire\|Terra Leather\|6 MT\|Xenon headlights\|BMW Alarm\|Clear Bra\|Stainless Steel Pedal Pads\|Black Line Tails\|MTEC V3.0 Angel Eyes\|HUPER OPTIK 30 Ceramic TINT\|GPThunder Fogs\|LED License Plate mod\|Sport Shocks/Springs upgrade\|ZHP Shift Knob\|//M Dead Pedal\|Matte Black Grill\|Aluminum Strut Bar\|Cyba Air Scoops\|Rear Fog Switch\|Perforated Mtech Wheel\|Miro 935s\|Hankook v12 evo Tires\|BMW SSK]\| BMW PE
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06-01-2009, 08:42 PM	#20
jopa489 Major General 127 Rep 6,594 Posts Drives: Anything with Wheels Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA iTrader: (9)	Wait, they gave you a WHOLE new transmission? For what was more than likely a blown syncro? Either that thing was clearly defective from the factory or you did a number on it. Glad you got it fixed without any aggravation. __________________ X7 LCI // Incoming C7 ZR1 ZTK // Sebring + TRX // Hydro + Raptor Gen1 Roush // Tuxedo
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06-02-2009, 05:59 PM	#21
g9sBMW Lieutenant 25 Rep 517 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 328i Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (8) Garage List 2007 328i Sedan [0.00]	I'm gonna go with defective from factory, since I don't race the car or push it that hard at all. This tranny problem will probably make me lean towards extending the 50,000 mile warranty. I'm currently at 35k after 2 years. __________________ [2007 328i\|Black Sapphire\|Terra Leather\|6 MT\|Xenon headlights\|BMW Alarm\|Clear Bra\|Stainless Steel Pedal Pads\|Black Line Tails\|MTEC V3.0 Angel Eyes\|HUPER OPTIK 30 Ceramic TINT\|GPThunder Fogs\|LED License Plate mod\|Sport Shocks/Springs upgrade\|ZHP Shift Knob\|//M Dead Pedal\|Matte Black Grill\|Aluminum Strut Bar\|Cyba Air Scoops\|Rear Fog Switch\|Perforated Mtech Wheel\|Miro 935s\|Hankook v12 evo Tires\|BMW SSK]\| BMW PE
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06-03-2009, 10:44 AM	#22
beef1020 Private 1 Rep 99 Posts Drives: 06 330i Join Date: May 2009 Location: md iTrader: (0)	For what it's worth my guess is these problems are very rare. You probably had a defective unit from the factory, these things happen as no production process is perfect, and that is exactly what the new car warranty is for. To fix defective parts from the factory on the rare occasion they occur. Consider your car very unlucky to have had the problem once, it was fixed, butI seriously doubt it will happen again. This was just a fluke...
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