HPFP failures in Canada only

Drakos · 05-19-2009, 04:54 PM

Just wanted to do a poll to see how many HFPF failures there are in Canada for the 335I. With the huge list of complaints surfacing, I noticed that most of the problems are based in the US. I wanted to see if it is isolated there or not. Please select all that apply to you.

Grendalf · 05-19-2009, 07:23 PM

I didn't have to replace my HFPF but since my car is relatively new and low mileage I won't count on my experience too much...

stressdoc · 05-19-2009, 08:46 PM

Good idea for a poll. This will be interesting.

kenneth · 05-19-2009, 09:48 PM

Does anybody know which companies in Canada use ethanol?

Canadian Companies
Esso
Shell
Petro Canada
Ultramar
Others?

bulldog_yyc · 05-19-2009, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenneth

Does anybody know which companies in Canada use ethanol?

Canadian Companies
Esso
Shell
Petro Canada
Ultramar
Others?

Shell is the only one without ethonol in their premium fuel (for now)
Sunoco, Petrocan and Esso all have up to 10% (so they claim)

M4TW · 05-19-2009, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenneth

Does anybody know which companies in Canada use ethanol?

Canadian Companies
Esso
Shell
Petro Canada
Ultramar
Others?

Unfortunately, there is no pan-Canadian answer to this question. As I mentioned in another thread, through regional supply contracts, gas companies by each other's gas and then mix in their additives. In your case, you're likely buying Petro Canada or Shell because both have refineries in Montreal. Whether there is an ethanol free option likely depends on whether there is a refinery available that sells it.

In Sask. (and Alta. I believe) Shell V-power 91 is ethanol free. I'm not sure about the rest of the country.

kenneth · 05-19-2009, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turkish335

Shell is the only one without ethonol in their premium fuel (for now)
Sunoco, Petrocan and Esso all have up to 10% (so they claim)

Sh**! did not know that, think I'll switch to Shell right away. Been using Esso and Ultramar.

Drakos · 05-20-2009, 12:33 AM

I live in Calgary and the refined gas comes right from Alberta. Heaviest use of ethanol here is Husky/Mohawk at 10% so they claim. Too bad because they are rated at 94 octane. I have only used Shell V-Power since I got my car a couple weeks ago. I wonder if there is a counter additive to nullify the damaging effects ethanol has on our FP's?

Nikos335i · 05-20-2009, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenneth

Sh**! did not know that, think I'll switch to Shell right away. Been using Esso and Ultramar.

Same here BTW Ken!!!

freshwhite335 · 05-20-2009, 01:33 AM

interesting results as im in the US [FL] and am having my 5th pump put it next week and it seems like most of the canada people havent had to have theirs replaced. stupid high ethanol content.

getInline · 05-20-2009, 02:05 AM

Well thankfully BC Chevron's haven't jumped on the misguided bandwagon yet, but it looks like the government is going force them down the dumb and dumber route....

Here is a reply to an email I sent to the local Chevron refinery:

Quote:

Thank you for your email.

Currently, Chevron gasoline in Canada does not contain ethanol. However, we cannot apply this statement indefinitely. Anytime soon, Chevron gasoline may contain ethanol in compliance to regulatory provisions for ethanol that apply to our products in B.C.

Chevron has not begun to blend ethanol yet. The province of B.C. has issued an E5 gasoline mandate for 2010 but have issued no clarification as to whether this means as of Jan 1 or by the end of Dec 31. Regardless, our plan is to be compliant to such mandate.

Sincerely,

Mr. Chevron Representative guy

dkvby · 05-20-2009, 06:54 AM

Chevron 94 FTW, still on original pump with 33k km

bulldog_yyc · 05-20-2009, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenneth

Sh**! did not know that, think I'll switch to Shell right away. Been using Esso and Ultramar.

I should have been more specific, that is Ontario only. Shell in the US has up to 10% ethonol, it may in Quebec as well. Not sure about Ultramar.

discoboy1 · 05-20-2009, 11:47 AM

They just replaced my pump for the first time last week, car har 32000km.
Always been using Ultramar.

MRQturbo · 05-20-2009, 11:51 AM

28k.....always sunocco 94...no problems so far....

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 05-20-2009, 12:05 PM

I run Sunoco 94, but am really debating whether to go for Shell V-Power. The fuel economy on Ultra 94 blows.. Only thing holding me back is that I love my JB3 Map7 as a daily driver

Mike

badass335 · 05-20-2009, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dkvby

Chevron 94 FTW, still on original pump with 33k km

I run Chevron 94 religiously and have had 1 fuel pump fail so far! Mine failed around 25K and i'm at 50k now on second one.

CaptChaos · 05-20-2009, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by getInline

Well thankfully BC Chevron's haven't jumped on the misguided bandwagon yet, but it looks like the government is going force them down the dumb and dumber route....

That's good to know.

View Poll Results: Do you live in Canada and have had a HPFP failure?
I live in Canada and have had a HPFP replaced	6	19.35%
I live in Canada and have not had a HPFP replaced	22	70.97%
I use ethanol blended gas	5	16.13%
I don't use ethanol blended gas	11	35.48%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 31. You may not vote on this poll

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kenneth Major General 127 Rep 8,745 Posts Drives: 335i Sedan Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Montreal iTrader: (16)	Does anybody know which companies in Canada use ethanol? Canadian Companies Esso Shell Petro Canada Ultramar Others? __________________ SB, Terra, 6MT. Only a few mods here and there.....nothing extreme!
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Drakos Lieutenant 68 Rep 534 Posts Drives: 2022 G42 M240i Join Date: May 2009 Location: Canada iTrader: (1)	I live in Calgary and the refined gas comes right from Alberta. Heaviest use of ethanol here is Husky/Mohawk at 10% so they claim. Too bad because they are rated at 94 octane. I have only used Shell V-Power since I got my car a couple weeks ago. I wonder if there is a counter additive to nullify the damaging effects ethanol has on our FP's?
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discoboy1 Lieutenant Colonel 126 Rep 1,555 Posts Drives: E82 1M VO/F30 328D Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Montreal iTrader: (3)	They just replaced my pump for the first time last week, car har 32000km. Always been using Ultramar. __________________ 2011 E82 1M VO 2013 F84 35i VO
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