X5M and X6M

NFS · 06-01-2009, 03:32 PM

http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/index/?se..._x5m&WT.srch=1

Just found out about these.

I don't like the idea at all.

ss134 · 06-01-2009, 03:58 PM

I'd feel like the most hated driver on the roads if i bought one of those, high performance 4x4 ? Not my cup of tea.

330cdsport · 06-02-2009, 07:16 AM

Can only imagine how much fuel they would use, when I struggle to get 25mpg out of the 35d version.

doughboy · 06-02-2009, 07:52 AM

Competition for the Cayenne Turbo and RRS V8?

They wouldn't make it if they thought they wouldn't sell em.

Eastern Europe and China, big gas guzzling 4x4 means big status in these new business worlds...

Steve A · 06-02-2009, 10:57 AM

i know i said the standard x6 was pointless, but how can any petrol head not lust after 547bhp and 516lbft.

i loooooovvvvvveeee it

E902717 · 06-02-2009, 11:14 AM

The X6 M Will be an animal!! it went round the 'ring in the same time as an M3 not bad for a gas guzzling 4x4!!

Geoffo · 06-02-2009, 11:41 AM

I wouldn't mind the X5M..

dxb335d · 06-02-2009, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve A

i know i said the standard x6 was pointless, but how can any petrol head not lust after 547bhp and 516lbft.

i loooooovvvvvveeee it

Cuz its a big bargy boat.

I want THAT ENGINE, not that car.

(New M5 engine.)

Geoffo · 06-02-2009, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dxb335d

Cuz its a big bargy boat.

Have you test drove an X5 Carl ??

I think they handle pretty good for a high car.

dxb335d · 06-02-2009, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geoffo318

Have you test drove an X5 Carl ??

I think they handle pretty good for a high car.

No i have not, and i do know they handle fantastic for a big lump, but still...... Its a big old lump which WILL not drive like its 5 series cousin when it gets that engine.

PhilL · 06-02-2009, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doughboy

Competition for the Cayenne Turbo and RRS V8?

They wouldn't make it if they thought they wouldn't sell em.

Eastern Europe and China, big gas guzzling 4x4 means big status in these new business worlds...

Exactly - and the general quality of their roads (or lack of it) makes an X5/6 etc a much better proposition than a similarly powered sports car.

G33 · 06-02-2009, 06:09 PM

i wud have one in my stable if i had a multi car garage and lots of monnnae

NFS · 06-02-2009, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geoffo318

Have you test drove an X5 Carl ??

I think they handle pretty good for a high car.

This is exactly the problem. An M car is supposed to be 'function over form', it's supposed to be designed from the ground up so that handling is optimal.

I'm sure an X5M will handle incredibly well. But it would handle far better if it wasn't a 2 tonne 4x4. It's a marketing driven compromise ... it's 'form over function' and that's entirely wrong for an M car.

Steve A · 06-03-2009, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dxb335d

Cuz its a big bargy boat.

I want THAT ENGINE, not that car.

(New M5 engine.)

ill measure my cock against hoops (and lose

) if it doesnt handle miles better than your 335d. And i know you dont think your car is a big wobbly barge. It will be awesome

M would not put there name to somethning that isnt amazing. compromised maybe but still M

G33 · 06-03-2009, 09:28 AM

id take a X5 or X6M over a 335d anyday

R80TER · 06-03-2009, 11:10 AM

the real sad thing is, they wont me making the Z4M due to the economy!

dxb335d · 06-03-2009, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by R80TER

the real sad thing is, they wont me making the Z4M due to the economy!

Thats just plain shitness.

zltm089 · 06-03-2009, 02:09 PM

not really sure about 4 x 4 "sportiness" .....big wobbly barge in my opinion....but then again the engine is M !!!

NFS · 06-03-2009, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R80TER

the real sad thing is, they wont me making the Z4M due to the economy!

I assumed that BMW were not doing a new Z4M because they were stopping production of the S54 engine and slotting the V8 was technically too demanding.

G33 · 06-03-2009, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T Bone

Fellow Enthusiasts,

We are now at the end of an era of a BMW ///M that we once loved. BMW and ///M, specifically has gone astray and are lost. Our once cherished sporty coupes, sedans and GTs with the characteristic powerful normally aspirated engines with killer performance high in the RPM band is lost.

Now we have 5300 pound trucks with asmatic redline performance is the new BMW and ///M. No 5300 pound truck is sporty and weight cannot be overcompensated by power but despite this known rule of performance, BMW has chosen to use the great ///M engineers on stupid trucks.

BMW and ///M have chose the path of Audi and AMG. Powerful and Heavy. Powerful good but Heavy necessarily means poor handling.

Look at the torque curve of the new engine. Flat torque curve great. But the stupid thing has a 6800 rpm redline and has an asmtha attack at 5700 rpm. Everything that we loved about BMW ///M engines is lost.

Don't believe the marketing hype. Weighs too much to handle well, fuel economy is horrible and the performance is mediocre. It satisfies no one.

I don't hold a lot of hope for the F10 M5 or the F12 M6. My current M6 is probably the last BMW that I will buy for awhile. If the 5 series PAV didn't reinforce that BMW has lost its way, the X5M and X6M demonstrates that BMW has completely lost its way in my opinion.

BMW has chosen to chase new markets and is going to forget its faithful.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248494

doughboy · 06-04-2009, 02:59 AM

Absolutely,

And the 335i was the thin end of the wedge.

:-(

LW · 06-04-2009, 05:16 AM

First of all, let's make clear that I do NOT like SUV's. Imo a car should lowered, and not higher.....

BUT, since 4 months, we have a new company car. My brother said he would like to try a SUV and traded in his '07 530d Touring M-Sport (great car, btw) for a X6 35d (with Dynamic Drive, AFS, HU and all the other goodies). I drive it quite often (as it is the company car), and I have to admit it drives great.
It doesn't feel like a traditional SUV! SUre it's heavy, but the engine's strong enough (it feels as fast as my 330d Touring).

I'm pretty sure that the X6M drives like a real M-series (although not so hardcore as an M3). I can understand BMW. M-B is quite succesfull with his AMG series. People prefre a mix in sportiness and comfort (not me, of course, I would go for 'hardcore'!).

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