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[TurboSpecC]

18" V710s... should I go staggered or not? Non = 8.5" all around, staggered = 8.5/9.5 (The stock 189s are 8" and 8.5" wide? )

I don't have any tires picked out yet, so no constrictions there.

Do most people go staggered? I don't see any need to run anything much wider than a 255 in the back.

[CV335]

If you won't do any tracking or spirited driving AND you are on a budget, stick to non-staggered setup (cheaper tires, etc). Most people get staggered setup for improve traction on the rear wheels and/or for looks. For 8.5" all around you can get 225 or 235, for stagerred setup you could get 255 or 265 for the rears. They might be a little stretched, that's why the general consensus is to get 235/265 combo.

[TurboSpecC]

Originally Posted by CV335

If you won't do any tracking or spirited driving AND you are on a budget, stick to non-staggered setup (cheaper tires, etc). Most people get staggered setup for improve traction on the rear wheels and/or for looks. For 8.5" all around you can get 225 or 235, for stagerred setup you could get 255 or 265 for the rears. They might be a little stretched, that's why the general consensus is to get 235/265 combo.

thanks - this is what i thought! The staggered set-up is only $50 more for the wheels; and while I don't do tracking I certainly do spirited driving, and may be putting down more power in the future so like the idea of 265s.

Offsets of 35 in the front and 33 in the rear are a safe bet for a staggered 18" set up like this?

[CV335]

Yep et35 and 33 are fine. If you lower the car you may or may not have issues with the front wheels. I have 5mm spacer in the front because my 713 19" wheels were rubbing with the FK coilovers, But even with the spacers I'm not rubbing against the fender either.

[Craig@SupremePower]

staggered fo sho..

[TurboSpecC]

Thanks for the help Ordering these babies as soon as I find which vendor has the cheapest shipping!

[Ramos]

Originally Posted by CV335

If you won't do any tracking or spirited driving AND you are on a budget, stick to non-staggered setup (cheaper tires, etc). Most people get staggered setup for improve traction on the rear wheels and/or for looks. For 8.5" all around you can get 225 or 235, for stagerred setup you could get 255 or 265 for the rears. They might be a little stretched, that's why the general consensus is to get 235/265 combo.

Dude, this is the worst advise I have ever read on this board...
Most of us who "track" switch to square, i.e non staggered to help minimize the understeer and make the car more neutral.
Staggered is only for looks man...

[satakal]

Originally Posted by Ramos

Dude, this is the worst advise I have ever read on this board...
Most of us who "track" switch to square, i.e non staggered to help minimize the understeer and make the car more neutral.
Staggered is only for looks man...

regulate son!

I'm curious to know that guys experience besides attending "too many to count HIN events." I bet he was a test driver for Maseratti.

[CV335]

Guys...my bad if I gave misinformation....I though wider rear wheels help with traction. Could you please help the OP and myself understand the benefits of unstaggered vs. staggered?

[satakal]

Originally Posted by CV335

Guys...my bad if I gave misinformation....I though wider rear wheels help with traction. Could you please help the OP and myself understand the benefits of unstaggered vs. staggered?

so, what I wanna know now is... How many HIN events have you been to?

http://www.e90post.com/forums/search...archid=8251988

Advanced search for your "key word" and posts from user "leftcoastman" or "s4to335". Those guys know stuff about going fast with an e90. the search function is useless if it gives back bad advice.

[Ramos]

Read those posts for sure, but in a nutshell the concesus seems to be that there is too much understeer dialed in to the stock setup of the ZSP on the E9X...
Wider rear tires does help rear traction, but at the expense of front traction. Hence the square non staggered setup which makes for a more neutral car.
The idea is to have as much rubber as possible on all 4 corners.. Satakal for example runs 255-40-17 on all 4 corners... Which also allows for rotation and extends the uselful life of your track tires. Other people including myself run 18" on 235-40-18 or 245-35-18 all around, a couple people even run 255-35-18 (stock rear size) on all 4 corners.

The preferred setup for the drag stip may be a different story though

[Ramos]

Originally Posted by satakal

regulate son!

I'm curious to know that guys experience besides attending "too many to count HIN events." I bet he was a test driver for Maseratti.

Stop stalking me... How do you even find every one of my posts ??

[CV335]

sakatal and Ramos...thanks for the explanation and the thread links.

And yes...I preferred to browse the subforms than use the search function...most of the time it also gives results based on users' signatures

I've seen people running staggered at drag strips, so maybe my loose definition of "track" is incorrect.

sakatal, have you ran 18" also? Or you stick with 17s? Was the main criteria for 17s to reduce as much as possible the "unsprung" weight?

[satakal]

Originally Posted by Ramos

Stop stalking me... How do you even find every one of my posts ??

I follow my nose. Smells like chickens.

[SV Concepts III]

I recommend the staggered setup to fill out the rear. The non staggered is good if you want to rotate your tires but the rear offset will not be aggressive enough to sit flush with the fender.

[Ron@Modbargains]

I'd definitly go staggered. You could go non-staggered it will fit, but why? You have a specific fitment for a staggered to give you best tire grip and handling available.

[Ramos]

Let me clarify one thing you may have missed.. Satakal and I have non staggered setup as a dedicated track setup. On the street, you probably want to stick with staggered since it looks much better.

And yes we are talking about actual tracks, can't help you with the drag stip although common sense is that all that matters for the drag strip would be rear traction..

[mike-y]

staggered will not get you the best handling unless you modify your suspension to account for the additional rubber out back (Like increasing the rear spring rates). but most people really don't know enough about suspension tuning to get into that sort of thing.

Think about it this way.. your car is pretty well balanced - about 50% of the weight over the front tires, and 50% over the rear tires. So during steady-state cornering, you car is more or less evenly distributing it's weight between the front and rear wheels. if there is equal traction, the car will be neutral. if you have more traction in the rear, the car will understeer (lose traction up front), which is not normally considered a good handling trait in the world of performance driving.

Now most cars are tuned for understeer from the factory, because it's easier for a driver to correct than oversteer. And when you add wider rear tires to the mix, and you will have even more understeer. Now, it's not necessarily a bad thing for the average street driver, depending on your driving experience - because it's easier to control than a car that oversteer. But as you get better, and learn to drive harder/faster, you'll see that it's slower because the car doesn't turn as well, and it wears your front tires out faster.

I run a square setup on the street with the factory sport suspension, and it feels pretty nice, though I've never taken this car to the track to really push it.

[david @ eas]

I would say go with staggered as well. Though we could go all day in regards to what is better on non-staggered and staggered, the truth is, if it's a car meant for the street and you're not going to track it, you'll be absolutely fine running a much larger rear wheel than up front.

[ECSTuning_Joe]

Staggered All-The-Way! I just bought a set and paired them with Bridgestone RE760s and can not say enough good things about these tires!

Here is a link to some info on them... http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....za+RE760+Sport

By far best DD tire I've ever had...

[Sara]

Originally Posted by TurboSpecC

Thanks for the help Ordering these babies as soon as I find which vendor has the cheapest shipping!

Go with Eric@PYSpeed.com... He's a vendor on here. I got the best price for that same setup. I searched around, he had the best deal and customer service as well.

[Sara]

Oh and to answer your original Q.. STAGGERED!