[Cars are the new horse]

I want to get a tune (and no other mods), but I'm not sure which one to get.

[scottp999]

My vote is procede. Many people have been running it for 10's of thousands of miles.

I put my procede on a month after I had the car, I think it was June or July 2007. I've had 0 mechanical issues.

The plug and play is very simple to install compared to the earlier versions of pin out, where you had to mess with extracting wires. I think you are lucky to be making your decision now since the tunes have come a long way in the last 2.5 years.

JB3 is also an option.

[etmathews]

Don't sell yourself short. You need to check into the JB3.

[Lotus99]

Originally Posted by etmathews

Don't sell yourself short. You need to check into the JB3.

wow, it took me forever to read all the pros and cons you listed for the JB3!

[Lotus99]

Originally Posted by nirvanayoda

Procede Cons --
(a) Untested reliability
(b) Possible loss of warranty if it's somehow detected.

I'm obviously having a hard time deciding between the two.

Can anyone comment on the risk that BMW will manage to lock out the Procede at one point, or make it so that one cannot erase the codes using a BT tool? That would make the Procede obsolete pretty quick, and leave you stuck with a tuner code... scary if it ever happens!

[gian335]

I doubt the bt tool will be obsolete anytime soon. No matter how many updates bmw comes out with, the bt tool will be able to read/delete any code. And that's even if u have been updated. It's been more than a year for me and i haven't been updated.

[Ramos]

OP you seem pretty infomred... And if you have to ask, then it's Dinan for you.

[NetVader]

Given what you have written I am going to go out on a limb and say the DINAN is a better choice. You pay a little more but get peace of mind for it.

The problem with the PROCede is that it can only clear codes when installed so you'll never know if it triggered a code being uninstalled. Even when installed its way complicated requiring some hex conversion and doesn't give you code details. At least with the BT cable it plugs in under the steering wheel and tells you what the code and details are, but that costs an extra $300.

[...]

"Even when installed its way complicated requiring some hex conversion and doesn't give you code details."

?????

1) enter http://www.google.com into your browser
2) Search the code from Procede + 'in hex' (ex.12844 in hex)
3) Open xls and find code
4) profit

[rcracer_tx]

Originally Posted by etmathews

Don't sell yourself short. You need to check into the JB3.

JB3 holds all world records for the n54 on stock turbos, and has never had overboosting/ boost spike problems...

[Hunter399]

We sell PROcede and all of our customers have been extremely satisfied!

[roozie2001]

im in houston and i have the JB3. Hit me up. I'll let u drive my 100% stock car with JB3. or take u for a ride. Tell me what u think.


map 7 FTW

[Terrance28]

Originally Posted by nirvanayoda

Thanks, I will try to find pictures of the new plug and play. I'd imagine there's something like that in the DIY section.

As far as JB3 goes, I know it's great power for cheap, but I've heard the map switching is easier on Procede and I like the idea of Procede automatically clearing codes. I don't want to have to go in myself to do it. Plus, I've read a lot of limp mode stories on JB2, but none from the newest Procede (although the older ones did have limp mode stories).

Jb2 and jb3 are totally different do not compare the two. Besides I have never had a problem with my jb2.

[ybbiz34]

I guess it really depends on how much power you're looking for, and how involved you want to be in the tuning process.

I just wanted some extra power, and something that I didn't have to worry about removing if I had to go to the dealer for some reason. From my perspective, the matching Dinan warranty was a very attractive advantage.

I'm sure my car would be faster with the Procede or JB3, but even if I had decided to go with one of those tunes, there would still be a lot of people out there faster than me.

Can't go wrong with either tune. At the end of the day, you have to ask yourself what you value most.

[rcracer_tx]

Originally Posted by nirvanayoda

Thanks, I will try to find pictures of the new plug and play. I'd imagine there's something like that in the DIY section.

As far as JB3 goes, I know it's great power for cheap, but I've heard the map switching is easier on Procede and I like the idea of Procede automatically clearing codes. I don't want to have to go in myself to do it. Plus, I've read a lot of limp mode stories on JB2, but none from the newest Procede (although the older ones did have limp mode stories).

Is it really hard to push the pedal down to change maps? jb2 is a completely different system, and most horror stories on procede seem to get shut down/ deleted by the mods here...

It took a whole week back to find a person boost spiking 20+ lbs on procede V3 with constant limp modes:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=270252

[golfinz]

btw...you would be very very stupid if you left any plug and play tune on your car when taking it in for service. The only nice thing about the Dinan, imo, is once your tuned you won't have to worry about warranty work as it would be covered. Anytime you have a pnp tune, jb1/2/3, sstt, jb+, procede, you should ALWAYS take it out before service.

That said, I vote JB3

[vegasspeed]

If I did it all over again I very well would get a V3 Procede. However, that said I still have good numbers from my car and have had no problems. There is another avenue that people don't look at. A Dinan badge is worth some resale value to a lot people. It may be very expensive but it will provide the car with some upgrade when it comes time to selling the car.

I would go Procede because I am looking at swapping turbos from ASR and that is the tune they run with now. Dinan's flash is useless to me if I go that route. Plus, as far as butt dyno I have heard the Procede kills all others just on the feel of the car. If you want a fast car go with Vishnu/Procede. If you want a little more piece of mind and a moderate bump in hp/tq than go to Dinan. (if you have the money as well)

[munters]

Originally Posted by rcracer_tx

Is it really hard to push the pedal down to change maps? jb2 is a completely different system, and most horror stories on procede seem to get shut down/ deleted by the mods here...

It took a whole week back to find a person boost spiking 20+ lbs on procede V3 with constant limp modes:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=270252

Stop this shit once please he is choosing between two tunes and he did his job in researching. if you want to go in limp and so on, look just one day and you see a blown head or gasket with a JB3. so what? everything can happen even a limp and even a boost spike at shift (Procede and JB3)
If he runs tune only every tune is limpfree and secure anyways
Period!

[Hunter399]

Originally Posted by nirvanayoda

If I got Procede, I'd get it from you guys. If I decided to take my car into the dealership, is it expensive to take it off and clear codes?

No, we charge a small fee to remove it, but clearing codes is free on the PROcede, it takes all of 10 seconds!

Thanks!

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by Hunter399@Motorwerks

No, we charge a small fee to remove it, but clearing codes is free on the PROcede, it takes all of 10 seconds!

Thanks!

+1

[Salco3]

Why would you have to have software removed just to go to the dealer?

With Dinan - go to the dealer if they re-flash the car because of a software issue, you just go back to your Dinan dealer and get the software re-flashed for FREE.

In regards to the HPFP problem, it is a known issue with the 335i and has nothing to do with Dinan software.

[Salco3]

Originally Posted by nirvanayoda

When talking about having it removed, I was referring to Procede, which is more than just software.

With respect to the HPFP, I thought I had read some stories where both Dinan and BMW blamed each other for some of those and they refused to cover it in those instances leaving the owner out in the cold. Am I mistaken?

I know BMW likes to play the blame game but the Dinan software does not have anything to do with the HPFP problem, and in my area we have had Dinan software customers with this issue and they have gone to the dealer and had it fixed, it had nothing to do with the software. Dinan always takes care of their customers and works with BMW to resolve the problem. I have seen instances where a person had alot of other mods on the car along with Dinan software and in that case only the software is covered the other stuff is not and 99% of the time the other mods were the root of the problem, but those situtations had nothing to do with HPFP.