BMS downpipe fix

MACH V · 06-30-2009, 12:45 AM

I installed my BMS downpipe fix today and i drove for 75 miles and i still have a SES light. I had my catless downpipes installed a week ago. Will the o2 sim not work if the SES light is already on?

TIA

AwBoostedCR · 06-30-2009, 01:58 AM

you have to clear the codes. I had the same problem.

MACH V · 06-30-2009, 02:32 AM

f**k! now i have to find a BT?

GeorgeSmooth · 06-30-2009, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MACH V

f**k! now i have to find a BT?

Its just a click away. Best thing I did was buy one.
Thanks for the thread though I just got worried as I ordered the fix. Let us know if clearing the codes does the trick.

MACH V · 07-01-2009, 04:55 AM

can someone else chime in please?

Former_Boosted_IS · 07-01-2009, 05:28 AM

Email Terry. Explain what happened and I am sure he will get your squared away.

gt3fever · 07-01-2009, 05:57 AM

yea email Terry first, but BT is always a nice investment.

i recall read somewhere that some car needs stronger o2 sim as well.

hope that helps

cstmx_ryder · 07-01-2009, 08:32 AM

^^ Yes, I'm running the extra resistors(?) in my O2 SIM right now from RR......At first, after the install of my catless DPs and O2 SIM, the SES light was on and stayed on for a few days, and then it all of a sudden went away..........Came back once or twice a few weeks later, then went away again.

So the first time that happened, I double checked the O2 SIM wiring to see if anything's loose or connected incorrectly. As long as it's installed correctly, you might just need to clear the code or let it run a few more days and once the car goes through a few cycles, the SES light should turn off..........Or ask the vendor you bought from for extra resistors to add to the O2 SIM (probably the last option).

GL, hope this helps.

GeorgeSmooth · 07-01-2009, 10:25 AM

Excuse my ignorance but does the o2 sim from BMS have different settings or is it only a plug in device with nothing else to change?
I have seen my tuner turn of the second lambda via flash tuning on other cars and is basically a few bites in the software which is the simplest route but I also like having a back up in case he can't get it right for whatever reason.

danniexi · 07-01-2009, 10:50 AM

happened to me as well.

1. get the codes cleared. im going to be investing in a BT scanner myself.
2. recheck the wires and make sure it's installed correctly. apparently i installed it in the wrong row of the black connector (it was my first time with pin out).

I haven't gotten the SES light since. I've driven it decently hard as well as set it to cruise control. No light so far. After a clearing/installing properly you shouldn't have an issue. The adding of resistors would probably the final solution, but I haven't seen THAT many cases of people doing it in the first place.

good luck!

Terrance28 · 07-01-2009, 11:52 AM

You can go to autozone and have them erase it too.

MACH V · 07-01-2009, 01:43 PM

I emailed Terry about it and I even emailed him a picture of the install to make sure I did it right. He also recommended a BT but there are a few other important things I need money for before the BT so idk when I'll have the money for it.. Thanks again guys!

Panoz · 07-01-2009, 01:47 PM

I think that you got to use a different pin if you dont use a JB tune.
Which pins are you using?

cstmx_ryder · 07-01-2009, 04:54 PM

Or you can just get a PROcede Rev.II which COMES with the DP fix......

Zeph · 07-01-2009, 05:07 PM

^ loz tru dat

MACH V · 07-01-2009, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Panoz

I think that you got to use a different pin if you dont use a JB tune.
Which pins are you using?

I have a JB3 so it should work... It's been almost 200 miles and still got a SES!!!

cstmx_ryder · 07-01-2009, 05:52 PM

^^ Seriously, just double check your connections, re-do the wiring and start from square 1 if you have to......That's what I did to eliminate the possible causes........IMO

MACH V · 07-01-2009, 06:31 PM

already did that but ok thanks

cstmx_ryder · 07-01-2009, 06:57 PM

And the SES light is still on? I finally did get an el cheapo C-reader that clear codes.

Worked like a charm. If you don't want to buy that, then like others have mentioned, go to Autozone and have them clear it.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 07-01-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MACH V

I have a JB3 so it should work... It's been almost 200 miles and still got a SES!!!

Did you read the downpipe fix install guide? You will need to clear the SES light using a OBDII reader from autozone or a BT cable. In the future install downpipes AND the downpipe fix at the same time to avoid the headache.

The downpipe fix or o2 sim does not clear the codes, it only prevents them. Once stored in the cars system they need o be cleared!

Mike

MACH V · 07-01-2009, 10:45 PM

Ya I read the guide but I must of missed that part... Thanks for clearing things up!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

Did you read the downpipe fix install guide? You will need to clear the SES light using a OBDII reader from autozone or a BT cable. In the future install downpipes AND the downpipe fix at the same time to avoid the headache.

The downpipe fix or o2 sim does not clear the codes, it only prevents them. Once stored in the cars system they need o be cleared!

Mike

Drakos · 07-02-2009, 11:40 AM

I installed the o2 sim prior to the Dp install and I never got a SES. I like to be proactive instead of reactive.

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cstmx_ryder Colonel 171 Rep 2,875 Posts Drives: A metal box with a roundel Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (2)	^^ Yes, I'm running the extra resistors(?) in my O2 SIM right now from RR......At first, after the install of my catless DPs and O2 SIM, the SES light was on and stayed on for a few days, and then it all of a sudden went away..........Came back once or twice a few weeks later, then went away again. So the first time that happened, I double checked the O2 SIM wiring to see if anything's loose or connected incorrectly. As long as it's installed correctly, you might just need to clear the code or let it run a few more days and once the car goes through a few cycles, the SES light should turn off..........Or ask the vendor you bought from for extra resistors to add to the O2 SIM (probably the last option). GL, hope this helps. __________________ '08 AW E90 335i PROcede V5 \| BMS DCI \| RR DPs \| ETS FMIC \| FORGE DVs \| Stett CP \| Vanguard \| PSS10
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GeorgeSmooth Lieutenant 40 Rep 565 Posts Drives: 2008 E90 335i AT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: South Africa iTrader: (0)	Excuse my ignorance but does the o2 sim from BMS have different settings or is it only a plug in device with nothing else to change? I have seen my tuner turn of the second lambda via flash tuning on other cars and is basically a few bites in the software which is the simplest route but I also like having a back up in case he can't get it right for whatever reason. __________________ 08 E90 335i AT RB Turbos -NX Wet Kit - Chiplogic Flash or Procede V5- M3 Diff - AE Exhaust- Forge Dv's - Helix Intercooler - AR DP's - P3 Boost Gauge - Vishnu Meth- Stett Chargepipe and CAI 09 C63
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MACH V MEFAKED 5 Rep 51 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: FT. Lauderdale, FL iTrader: (0)	I emailed Terry about it and I even emailed him a picture of the install to make sure I did it right. He also recommended a BT but there are a few other important things I need money for before the BT so idk when I'll have the money for it.. Thanks again guys!
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Panoz Lieutenant Colonel 87 Rep 1,575 Posts Drives: E92 Space Grey 335i ,Aero Kit Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: EU iTrader: (0)	I think that you got to use a different pin if you dont use a JB tune. Which pins are you using? __________________ Procede V4 , Catless DPs, Forge FMIC, Injen Intake, VK Oilcooler, Hartge Quads Exhaust, Modded CDV, Synapse BOV Kit, BMW Performance 335i SSK Kit, P3 vent boost gauge Space Grey 335i -> See more pics HERE
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cstmx_ryder Colonel 171 Rep 2,875 Posts Drives: A metal box with a roundel Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (2)	^^ Seriously, just double check your connections, re-do the wiring and start from square 1 if you have to......That's what I did to eliminate the possible causes........IMO __________________ '08 AW E90 335i PROcede V5 \| BMS DCI \| RR DPs \| ETS FMIC \| FORGE DVs \| Stett CP \| Vanguard \| PSS10
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MACH V MEFAKED 5 Rep 51 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: FT. Lauderdale, FL iTrader: (0)	already did that but ok thanks
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cstmx_ryder Colonel 171 Rep 2,875 Posts Drives: A metal box with a roundel Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (2)	And the SES light is still on? I finally did get an el cheapo C-reader that clear codes. Worked like a charm. If you don't want to buy that, then like others have mentioned, go to Autozone and have them clear it. __________________ '08 AW E90 335i PROcede V5 \| BMS DCI \| RR DPs \| ETS FMIC \| FORGE DVs \| Stett CP \| Vanguard \| PSS10
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Drakos Lieutenant 68 Rep 534 Posts Drives: 2022 G42 M240i Join Date: May 2009 Location: Canada iTrader: (1)	I installed the o2 sim prior to the Dp install and I never got a SES. I like to be proactive instead of reactive.
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