[Kev]

Helped a fellow E90Post member installed the kit today. All I can say is I am not impressed by the kit at all. Here are the reasons why:

1. LEDs firing in the wrong direction for the application. LED lights are directional so you won't get enough light if the LED is pointing in the wrong direction. Their front / rear footwell LEDs, as well as the under the door puddle light LEDs are ALL pointing in the wrong direction. The light output suffers quite a bit because of this.

2. Some of the bulbs came DOA.

3. The T10 / 194 / 168 bulbs used for the map lights have a huge heat sink that doesn't fit through the opening

4. The dome light has a PCB that's too big

[lpphreakx06]

Yeah for real..

[lpphreakx06]

Mike is being helpful though with trying to help fix the problems, but I will test out other LED's.

[Mike@F1 Autohaüs]

I'm sorry to hear that you're unimpressed with the kit and I've already replied back to Tuan's private message in assisting him with replacement bulbs.

1. Most aftermarket LED T10 bulbs on the market are directional as LEDs are limited to output when compared to a standard incandescent bulb. The Stage 1 setup used was kept in mind to keep the price of the interior kit affordable and not reaching triple digits. Although Stage 1's output is sufficient this issue has been solved with the Stage 2 kits. Stage 3 is already being tested with an even greater output for those that aren't already satisfied but are consumers willing to spend much more for it?

2. We ensure everything to be in good working order by testing every single bulb prior to sending them out to avoid these type of situations. Once they're in transit and out of our hands we have no control of how shipment will be handled.

3. The T10 bulbs are larger than most due to the size of the heatsink but will fit through the opening. The heatsink is necessary to cool off the LED chip due to the amount of output and heat it gives out. Touch the heatsink after 1 minute of use and you'll see what I'm referring to.

4. The PCB boards were made to fit perfectly inside the center domes. I have not receive any other complaints with them

[rollyn2night]

hmmm...I actually have the kit at home, just didnt get time to install it. BTW what does he mean when referring to stage 1/stage 2. Is that regarding time of production. My kit was ordered and shipped about a week ago, any chance I will run into the same problems. You guy are gettin me worried.

[Mike@F1 Autohaüs]

Originally Posted by rollyn2night

hmmm...I actually have the kit at home, just didnt get time to install it. BTW what does he mean when referring to stage 1/stage 2. Is that regarding time of production. My kit was ordered and shipped about a week ago, any chance I will run into the same problems. You guy are gettin me worried.

Stg.2 is a different version of the current kit with some upgraded LEDs. You should not have any problems if you properly follow the DIY guide.

Also, the LED did not arrive ripped apart as seen in the picture posted. It was the end result from the user during the install. Other customers did not have this problem so please do not be misinformed

[rockd]

I don't have any experience w/ the F1 Autohaus kit, but I did just install Khoalty's kit yesterday. IMO, the Khoalty kit is amazing - light output is just right, all the LED's worked, everything pointed in the right direction, etc. Very happy with it!

[dirtyylicous]

Originally Posted by rockd

I don't have any experience w/ the F1 Autohaus kit, but I did just install Khoalty's kit yesterday. IMO, the Khoalty kit is amazing - light output is just right, all the LED's worked, everything pointed in the right direction, etc. Very happy with it!

Pics?

[yamazaho]

Originally Posted by Kev

1. LEDs firing in the wrong direction for the application. LED lights are directional so you won't get enough light if the LED is pointing in the wrong direction. Their front / rear footwell LEDs, as well as the under the door puddle light LEDs are ALL pointing in the wrong direction. The light output suffers quite a bit because of this.

2. Some of the bulbs came DOA.

3. The T10 / 194 / 168 bulbs used for the map lights have a huge heat sink that doesn't fit through the opening

4. The dome light has a PCB that's too big

1. As far as I know, most LEDs have to come in that form (directional) due to its design and as long as you point the LEDs outward, I don't see why the brightness is not enough. Maybe it's me who is not picky enough but here is one shot of my interior, you guys can be the judges.



2. According to the pictures, it looks like the bulbs were "pulled out" of the socket (I did that before). I am not sure it's due to shipping but if it is, Mike should take care of it easily.

3. I do have to agree that some of the map light bulbs do not have the best fit through the socket, but with a little push and some patience, I fit mine through just fine. Like Mike said, the heatsinks are required there to get the LEDs to work right.

4. The board should fits snugly in the center dome area. Maybe if you attach a picture of your board, it's easier to see what's going on....?

[choicez]

Originally Posted by rockd

I don't have any experience w/ the F1 Autohaus kit, but I did just install Khoalty's kit yesterday. IMO, the Khoalty kit is amazing - light output is just right, all the LED's worked, everything pointed in the right direction, etc. Very happy with it!

Originally Posted by dirtyylicous

Pics?

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=279307

[JayKay335i]

I installed the stage 1 kit and I'll be receiving, upgrading, and reviewing (+ pictures) the stage 1.5 kit which should have about the same light output as the full stage 2. For the money the kit is great. The light output from the large boards or crazy. The stage 2 should increase the brightness from the footwell and under door fixtures. Pictures and review will be posted next week. I think everybody will be pleasantly surprised by the end result, especially the price.

The install was easy too. The boards fit snugly and the map lights just needed a tiny bit of patience to get in. They did fit through without problems though. Just had to have it angled just right. Overall I love my kit. +1 for Mike and the company.

[Kev]

Hey, thanks for replying to this thread. I'm only posting this as an independent install review based on my experience with the kit.

Originally Posted by Mike@F1 Autohaüs

I'm sorry to hear that you're unimpressed with the kit and I've already replied back to Tuan's private message in assisting him with replacement bulbs.

1. Most aftermarket LED T10 bulbs on the market are directional as LEDs are limited to output when compared to a standard incandescent bulb. The Stage 1 setup used was kept in mind to keep the price of the interior kit affordable and not reaching triple digits. Although Stage 1's output is sufficient this issue has been solved with the Stage 2 kits. Stage 3 is already being tested with an even greater output for those that aren't already satisfied but are consumers willing to spend much more for it?

I'm fully aware that LEDs are directional. So, what are you trying to say? Because of the price users have to sacrifice for bulbs that don't face the right direction so it's even dimmer than stock (under door, front / rear foot wells)?

Originally Posted by Mike@F1 Autohaüs

2. We ensure everything to be in good working order by testing every single bulb prior to sending them out to avoid these type of situations. Once they're in transit and out of our hands we have no control of how shipment will be handled.

I don't know what kind of shipment can cause two bulbs to fail w/o any physical damage.

Originally Posted by Mike@F1 Autohaüs

3. The T10 bulbs are larger than most due to the size of the heatsink but will fit through the opening. The heatsink is necessary to cool off the LED chip due to the amount of output and heat it gives out. Touch the heatsink after 1 minute of use and you'll see what I'm referring to.

So? Don't use those bulbs, find some alternative that ACTUALLY fits......

Originally Posted by Mike@F1 Autohaüs

4. The PCB boards were made to fit perfectly inside the center domes. I have not receive any other complaints with them

They do sit at the very edge, so the tape that you provide is utterly useless because the PCB is not anchor / attached / taped to anything.

Lastly, if you buy these bulbs from China in bulk, they are very inexpensive, so I'm not sure your cost argument actually works here.

[Craig@SupremePower]

ohhh boy..

[MMAJNKE]

here we go again !

[E92-Lighting]

lesson learned, dont sell defective parts to Kev

[StrifeM3]

Originally Posted by second_2_nun

here we go again !

I have the Khoalty kit also i have no complaints with it and have already been complimented on the interior many times, but I'm not picky also...

[MuchMoore]

Uh oh...

[otherside]

Mega over reacting, point them in the direction you want them to go and just work it, they are the most amazing LED kit I've ever seen, it's amazing that it bursts as much light as it does, It's almost TOO damn bright..LOL

the foot wells are just fine, the DOME boards illuminate the whole damn interior so much that its insane.

as far as defectives, Mike is the coolest cat I've dealt with on the forums, he will never turn his back on a client and will send out whatever is needed.

sh it happens, Im sure you'll be ok but next time you should contact the vendor first..

[x-noize]

i personally have the kit and it works like a charm,the board fits perfect for me,i know the leds in the rear foot wells are getting revamped,but the kit is amazing!

[iheartsole]

looks awesome!

[Kev]

Originally Posted by E92-Lighting

lesson learned, dont sell defective parts to Kev

It's a question of whether the part of defective or not. I'm sure they'll take care of it and replace the faulty bulbs. It's just the fact that they are advertising it as a "BRIGHT" LED kit when in fact it is not bothers the hell out of me. Also, the fit and finish of those bulbs leave a lot to be desired.

Originally Posted by otherside

Mega over reacting, point them in the direction you want them to go and just work it, they are the most amazing LED kit I've ever seen, it's amazing that it bursts as much light as it does, It's almost TOO damn bright..LOL

the foot wells are just fine, the DOME boards illuminate the whole damn interior so much that its insane.

as far as defectives, Mike is the coolest cat I've dealt with on the forums, he will never turn his back on a client and will send out whatever is needed.

sh it happens, Im sure you'll be ok but next time you should contact the vendor first..

I guess you haven't seen BRIGHT, yet. Check out the setup that is on shinchan's car and that is bright. The F1 kit, not quite. I'm not the actual buyer, so I have no obligation to contact the vendor to get this straighten out. I just happen to be the person installing the kit and reporting my OBJECTIVE finding after comparing that LED kit to the "kits" that I have put together for my 3 E9X's.

Check this out on shinchan's X5:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=255248

It also include a DIY project of mine with super bright LEDs.

It's easy to take sides on a forum like this (especially you are a business partner with F1 Autohaus) but when it's apparent that the LED kit is not even as bright as the stock lights, what's the point of "upgrading" it?

[E92-Lighting]

Originally Posted by Kev

It's a question of whether the part of defective or not. I'm sure they'll take care of it and replace the faulty bulbs. It's just the fact that they are advertising it as a "BRIGHT" LED kit when in fact it is not bothers the hell out of me. Also, the fit and finish of those bulbs leave a lot to be desired.



I guess you haven't seen BRIGHT, yet. Check out the setup that is on shinchan's car and that is bright. The F1 kit, not quite. I'm not the actual buyer, so I have no obligation to contact the vendor to get this straighten out. I just happen to be the person installing the kit and reporting my OBJECTIVE finding after comparing that LED kit to the "kits" that I have put together for my 3 E9X's.

Check this out on shinchan's X5:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=255248

It also include a DIY project of mine with super bright LEDs.

It's easy to take sides on a forum like this (especially you are a business partner with F1 Autohaus) but when it's apparent that the LED kit is not even as bright as the stock lights, what's the point of "upgrading" it?

is shinchan's "error free"