[hks786]

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[hks786]

Firstly, I think it looks sleek and just like a Jag should in black! love the grille.

I'm not 100% sure on the rear. Next to the XF the car looks huge! Didnt appreciate the dimensions from official pics. I also hate the black C pillar. Worse than that, I hate that blue paint lol.

[Boost Gomez]

Does being from the UK make you biased towards Jaguar? I really don't see anything to like about this car from a design standpoint, especially when compared with its competitors.

[blue2fire]

It looks lovely. I would have one over a 7 Series every time. Rather unfortunate that they don't seem to have a smaller car with Ian Callum's design out, really.

[The__J__Factor]

Id much rather its little little next to it.

That XJ is huge and the rear is terrible

[hks786]

Originally Posted by Boost Gomez

Does being from the UK make you biased towards Jaguar? I really don't see anything to like about this car from a design standpoint, especially when compared with its competitors.

Not at all. Before the XJ was released I couldnt make my mind up between the facelift S class and 7 series. The new XJ is totally new and unique. The rear design hasnt convinced me yet but the front end is a beast yet classy at the same time.

[335ifanatic]

The rear kills it, wtf was the designer(s) thinking??!

[hks786]

Originally Posted by blue2fire

It looks lovely. I would have one over a 7 Series every time. Rather unfortunate that they don't seem to have a smaller car with Ian Callum's design out, really.

There is a smaller car - the XF.

[Year's_End]

The surfacing and details look cheap like in the XF. Very soft lines...too soft personally.

Interesting rear bumper. Kinda cluttery. Not sure about the taillights. Not a fan of the C-Pillar.

Very modern though. I feel like it'll stand out more.

[RealSanaii]

rear looks like Bentley continental

[footie]

Originally Posted by Bimmer Loyalist

The surfacing and details look cheap like in the XF. Very soft lines...too soft personally.

Interesting rear bumper. Kinda cluttery. Not sure about the taillights. Not a fan of the C-Pillar.

Very modern though. I feel like it'll stand out more.

After spending a bit of time with both the XF3.0dS and the XFR I can't agree that either this new XJ or the XF look cheap, far from it in fact. The quality of the stitching, the wood trim and the grade of leather is probably as good as what Audi use and as such would be better than BMW.

I agree about the C-pillar, it will look better with dark colours where is becomes less noticeable. I haven't seen it in person yet but rate everything except the tail as near enough perfect, especially the interior which I reckon will make all who sit in the driver's seat feel that they have finally 'made it', something that no other in this sector does, no you need to move up to a Bentley to get a similar effect.

The side profile is another area that is less successful, kinda looks stretched even in short wheelbase form so heaven knows what I will make of the long version.

Would I buy one if in the market for this kind of car?

Answer, Yes. And based on my experience with the XF I can only be of the opinion that the XJ will be better this and the XF is already the best in class.

[Year's_End]

Originally Posted by footie

After spending a bit of time with both the XF3.0dS and the XFR I can't agree that either this new XJ or the XF look cheap, far from it in fact. The quality of the stitching, the wood trim and the grade of leather is probably as good as what Audi use and as such would be better than BMW.

I agree about the C-pillar, it will look better with dark colours where is becomes less noticeable. I haven't seen it in person yet but rate everything except the tail as near enough perfect, especially the interior which I reckon will make all who sit in the driver's seat feel that they have finally 'made it', something that no other in this sector does, no you need to move up to a Bentley to get a similar effect.

The side profile is another area that is less successful, kinda looks stretched even in short wheelbase form so heaven knows what I will make of the long version.

Would I buy one if in the market for this kind of car?

Answer, Yes. And based on my experience with the XF I can only be of the opinion that the XJ will be better this and the XF is already the best in class.

True, I see what you're getting at. Maybe I worded my statements improperly.

The surfacing on the XF and XJ, at least in my eyes, seems somewhat behind modern standards. Not that it's necessary to have complex surfacing, I just find crisply defined, multi-dimensional sheetmetal to have a more upscale look. These cars are on the conservative side, with soft, minimal lines and a focus on proportions and sleekness. There's nothing wrong with that, it just looks less...solid...by comparison.

It's the small things too, like the window trim, which looks somewhat plain, or the taillight detailing, which looks a few years behind. Small things, but they just don't jive with my tastes. I'm sure it works for plenty of people though, and I'm sure this XJ will give the segment a serious fight.

As with the interior, I'll leave that mostly up to subjective points. I'm getting this feeling that my experience with the XF was misleading, as you and others keep mentioning the high-grade materials which I found otherwise. It was an early demo car, perhaps a little rough or not equipped properly. Regardless, I'm not particularly fond of Jag's interior design, but it is very businessman-like with the proper gadgets and tech to interest the crowd this car caters to.

I've really only just become a large fan of BMW and Merc interiors, what with these new gen models coming out. Seems like they're all taking cues from Audi, which is more than a good thing. I wish Jag would follow suit, to a point.

[keanu1]

this is a car i would never buy!! It's too ugly compared to the competition!!

[lyndon_h]

I like the front of the car, but the rest of the car is giving me think they mated an Infiniti Q and Audi. Also, the interior console gives me an odd vibe. I'd like to see it in person before i pass final judgement, but i think i'd take the other large luxury vehicles before this one.

[Year's_End]

Originally Posted by blue2fire

It looks lovely. I would have one over a 7 Series every time. Rather unfortunate that they don't seem to have a smaller car with Ian Callum's design out, really.

I personally think Ian Callum is overhyped. He was great at Aston, no doubt, but once he breaks away from his typical DB9/AMV8/XF style, there's not much.

[footie]

Originally Posted by Bimmer Loyalist

True, I see what you're getting at. Maybe I worded my statements improperly.

The surfacing on the XF and XJ, at least in my eyes, seems somewhat behind modern standards. Not that it's necessary to have complex surfacing, I just find crisply defined, multi-dimensional sheetmetal to have a more upscale look. These cars are on the conservative side, with soft, minimal lines and a focus on proportions and sleekness. There's nothing wrong with that, it just looks less...solid...by comparison.

Ah, I now understand what you meant and in a way I do now agree with you, though to be fair the XF does look remarkably similar from some angles to an Aston Martin which is not exactly a bad thing. I think the best thing to do is try and view the new XJ beside an A8, 7 series and S-class before truly casting an opinions.

Originally Posted by Bimmer Loyalist

It's the small things too, like the window trim, which looks somewhat plain, or the taillight detailing, which looks a few years behind. Small things, but they just don't jive with my tastes. I'm sure it works for plenty of people though, and I'm sure this XJ will give the segment a serious fight.

This is a Jaguar and as such they do not have to impress in the same way as say an Audi or BMW. To me I see a lot of Bentley in the new XJ, maybe that is why it is appealing to me more than some others and though I am a fan of modern design I also happen to like traditional values and one of those values is a simple elegance which the XJ captures perfectly.

Originally Posted by Bimmer Loyalist

As with the interior, I'll leave that mostly up to subjective points. I'm getting this feeling that my experience with the XF was misleading, as you and others keep mentioning the high-grade materials which I found otherwise. It was an early demo car, perhaps a little rough or not equipped properly. Regardless, I'm not particularly fond of Jag's interior design, but it is very businessman-like with the proper gadgets and tech to interest the crowd this car caters to.

I've really only just become a large fan of BMW and Merc interiors, what with these new gen models coming out. Seems like they're all taking cues from Audi, which is more than a good thing. I wish Jag would follow suit, to a point.

I'm not a fan of current German interiors, the i-drive/MMI and this second bump on the dash was always a mistake in my opinion. Clean lines is how interiors should be and none of the German brands are doing that very well at the moment. As I said in my last post, given a choice I would jump at the Jag before all others and know that I would be most happy given previous experience with the XF.

[Garduna]

Originally Posted by 335ifanatic

The rear kills it, wtf was the designer(s) thinking??!

the side and front looks so good but the rear's gotta go