Disappointing & Weird Dyno sheet. Help! Change my Procede?

Rafstar · 08-14-2009, 12:58 PM

* Just realised I wrote Dyno but I meant Drag sheet *

Just got back from the track yesterday and Did A few runs with a fellow e90post member. I was really disappointed of my runs. I did over 15 drag runs in the past and my best time was 13.4 with a trap of 106. I would see plenty of 13.7, 13.5 even 13.8 sometimes and my trap would never be beyond 105.

Ive gone to the drag strip plenty of times and all I can think of is switching to JB3 and see how my car responds.

My car: 335i coupe, Procede v3( v3.2 2-19) non doomsday Stage 1, BMS DCI, Run flat Tires. Manual transmission
VS
Stock 335xi with JB3 Map 6, run flat tires, Automatic

Jeller · 08-14-2009, 01:05 PM

Need to work on that 60' time and you'll be the winner.

marcvtec · 08-14-2009, 01:07 PM

AT, MT both ?

Also he has an all wheel drive, better reaction time and better 60'

Upload newest V3 maps they are stronger than 2-19

My 2 cents

cn555ic · 08-14-2009, 01:08 PM

You answered your own question...get a JB3 and see how it does, thats the only way you know which tune performs better on your car..

NRG · 08-14-2009, 01:08 PM

Wow man, that sucks! Time to change?

Considering it's almost 90F these days here and very humid.

RonPaul4Prez · 08-14-2009, 01:10 PM

The jb3 does have awd which should account for a good bit of the difference. I'd also like to know what octane was used. neither of your cars is modded in any significant way other than the tune really and your 60 time looks like you could nail the launch a little better (the xi was dominating there). If the tunes were removed I'd expect roughly the same results between your cars stock, albeit slower times by both.

Rafstar · 08-14-2009, 01:10 PM

335xi was AT
My car is 5 speed MT

kyleb350 · 08-14-2009, 01:11 PM

I say switch the tires first

Rafstar · 08-14-2009, 01:11 PM

We were both running 94 octane

NRG · 08-14-2009, 01:13 PM

When the runs took place?

GeorgiaTech335coupe · 08-14-2009, 01:13 PM

Both cars did not have very good mph. The difference in ET is due to him having AWD as seen in the 60'. Switching to a JB3 won't better your 60'. What transmissions do you guys have? What were some of the other guys MPH? What was outside temp and elevation?

stressdoc · 08-14-2009, 01:16 PM

With MT especially it is all about the driver.

GeorgiaTech335coupe · 08-14-2009, 01:16 PM

By the info you have given, I'd say your guys' cars are very similar in performance and hp. His AT makes up for the added weight/drive train loss of the xi. There could be a small difference in hp, but the biggest difference I see here is that 60' time. Match his 60' and you probably will have a better ET. Performance wise, I'd say the tunes are pretty close. IMO

btrav1226 · 08-14-2009, 01:34 PM

he has a way better 60' time and you still edged him out in mph. i'd say your procede is doing just fine then, work on your launch.

Dmitriy@AUTOcouture · 08-14-2009, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rafstar

335xi was AT
My car is 5 speed MT

You actually have a 6 speed...

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 08-14-2009, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rafstar

* Just realised I wrote Dyno but I meant Drag sheet *

Just got back from the track yesterday and Did A few runs with a fellow e90post member. I was really disappointed of my runs. I did over 15 drag runs in the past and my best time was 13.4 with a trap of 106. I would see plenty of 13.7, 13.5 even 13.8 sometimes and my trap would never be beyond 105.

Ive gone to the drag strip plenty of times and all I can think of is switching to JB3 and see how my car responds.

My car: 335i coupe, Procede v3( v3.2 2-19) non doomsday Stage 1, BMS DCI, Run flat Tires. Manual transmission
VS
Stock 335xi with JB3 Map 6, run flat tires, Automatic

I wouldn't read too much in to your results. With a manual its harder to get good times.

Mike

luca335i · 08-14-2009, 02:00 PM

Map 6 is stronger than a stage 1 procede plus xi has better traction. Up the boost and then race him again.

cn555ic · 08-14-2009, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shpuntik

You actually have a 6 speed...

OpenFlash · 08-14-2009, 02:06 PM

Just work on that launch and shifting and you can win with no other changes. Might want to update to a new map/firmware though. There have been a lot of changes since Feb. The new maps are unquestionably more powerful.

Shiv

Slidewayz · 08-14-2009, 02:13 PM

I don't know how anyone can get a good 1/4 with the 6MT & (RFT) street tires...too much wheelspin and a very slow, balky shifter.

Xander · 08-14-2009, 02:38 PM

Trap speed shows the cars potential, the Time shows how good or bad the driver is (sort of)

X...

Rafstar · 08-14-2009, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cn555ic

Lol im a bit tired my bad

08-14-2009, 12:58 PM	#1
Rafstar Captain 94 Rep 775 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Montreal iTrader: (15)	Disappointing & Weird Dyno sheet. Help! Change my Procede? * Just realised I wrote Dyno but I meant Drag sheet * Just got back from the track yesterday and Did A few runs with a fellow e90post member. I was really disappointed of my runs. I did over 15 drag runs in the past and my best time was 13.4 with a trap of 106. I would see plenty of 13.7, 13.5 even 13.8 sometimes and my trap would never be beyond 105. Ive gone to the drag strip plenty of times and all I can think of is switching to JB3 and see how my car responds. My car: 335i coupe, Procede v3( v3.2 2-19) non doomsday Stage 1, BMS DCI, Run flat Tires. Manual transmission VS Stock 335xi with JB3 Map 6, run flat tires, Automatic __________________ E92 M3 Clubsport JRZ \| TE37SL \| AR1\| Stoptech BBK (ST60/40) \| Recaro SPG XL + Schroth 6 point \| Raven Roll Cage \| \| Alex Alpine Tune \| Turner Test Pipes \| AFE Carbon Intake \| Bimmerworld Solid Bushings and more...
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Jeller Lieutenant 15 Rep 506 Posts Drives: 2007 335i E90 ZSP Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Buffalo NY iTrader: (5)	Need to work on that 60' time and you'll be the winner.
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marcvtec Banned 411 Rep 2,703 Posts Drives: M5 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: toronto iTrader: (0)	AT, MT both ? Also he has an all wheel drive, better reaction time and better 60' Upload newest V3 maps they are stronger than 2-19 My 2 cents
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cn555ic 460 Rep 18,331 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: US iTrader: (6)	You answered your own question...get a JB3 and see how it does, thats the only way you know which tune performs better on your car..
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NRG Lieutenant Colonel 38 Rep 1,658 Posts Drives: 2012 X5 35d Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Montreal QC iTrader: (5)	Wow man, that sucks! Time to change? Considering it's almost 90F these days here and very humid. __________________ Retired: 2005 N52 E90 330i Sport 6AT Retired: 2007 N54 E92 335i Sport 6AT Current: 2012 M57 E70 X5 xDrive35D
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RonPaul4Prez Private 5 Rep 96 Posts Drives: BMW 335i coupe Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Atlanta, Georgia iTrader: (1)	The jb3 does have awd which should account for a good bit of the difference. I'd also like to know what octane was used. neither of your cars is modded in any significant way other than the tune really and your 60 time looks like you could nail the launch a little better (the xi was dominating there). If the tunes were removed I'd expect roughly the same results between your cars stock, albeit slower times by both.
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Rafstar Captain 94 Rep 775 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Montreal iTrader: (15)	335xi was AT My car is 5 speed MT __________________ E92 M3 Clubsport JRZ \| TE37SL \| AR1\| Stoptech BBK (ST60/40) \| Recaro SPG XL + Schroth 6 point \| Raven Roll Cage \| \| Alex Alpine Tune \| Turner Test Pipes \| AFE Carbon Intake \| Bimmerworld Solid Bushings and more...
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kyleb350 Brigadier General 429 Rep 4,709 Posts Drives: '21 X3MC Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Milwaukee iTrader: (6)	I say switch the tires first
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Rafstar Captain 94 Rep 775 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Montreal iTrader: (15)	We were both running 94 octane __________________ E92 M3 Clubsport JRZ \| TE37SL \| AR1\| Stoptech BBK (ST60/40) \| Recaro SPG XL + Schroth 6 point \| Raven Roll Cage \| \| Alex Alpine Tune \| Turner Test Pipes \| AFE Carbon Intake \| Bimmerworld Solid Bushings and more...
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NRG Lieutenant Colonel 38 Rep 1,658 Posts Drives: 2012 X5 35d Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Montreal QC iTrader: (5)	When the runs took place? __________________ Retired: 2005 N52 E90 330i Sport 6AT Retired: 2007 N54 E92 335i Sport 6AT Current: 2012 M57 E70 X5 xDrive35D
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GeorgiaTech335coupe Lieutenant Colonel 81 Rep 1,883 Posts Drives: Black BMW 335i coupe Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Both cars did not have very good mph. The difference in ET is due to him having AWD as seen in the 60'. Switching to a JB3 won't better your 60'. What transmissions do you guys have? What were some of the other guys MPH? What was outside temp and elevation? __________________ Legal Disclaimer: Anything I or anyone else says about my vehicle on this website(e90post.com or any affiliated or nonaffiliated sites), pertaining to modifications, is only to gain acceptance from my/our peers, and does not actually represent anything actually existing on my car, and thus, cannot be held against me in any issues, i.e. warranty claims, that may arise.
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btrav1226 Major 24 Rep 1,040 Posts Drives: g80 M3 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: new hampshire iTrader: (5)	he has a way better 60' time and you still edged him out in mph. i'd say your procede is doing just fine then, work on your launch.
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luca335i Major 61 Rep 1,193 Posts Drives: 335I Sedan Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Unknown iTrader: (3)	Map 6 is stronger than a stage 1 procede plus xi has better traction. Up the boost and then race him again. __________________
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Slidewayz Major 37 Rep 1,177 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Oakland, CA iTrader: (5)	I don't know how anyone can get a good 1/4 with the 6MT & (RFT) street tires...too much wheelspin and a very slow, balky shifter.
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Xander I'm new 8 Rep 255 Posts Drives: 997 Turbo, F80 M3, CC & Yukon Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Buffalo, NY iTrader: (4)	Trap speed shows the cars potential, the Time shows how good or bad the driver is (sort of) X...
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