After Proceed: FMIC, CATTED DP’S OR FULL EXHAUST?

Rodrigo Byscaia de Carval · 11-18-2009, 03:36 PM

Car:
07 335i 6MT
Vishnu V3 - Map 1 – 11-2
BMS Dual Cone Intake (not installed yet)

After using my Proceed for a while, I feel the need to go further…

I am overall satisfied with my car, but if feel that it isn’t “breeding” as it could on the upper RPM’s (+6000rpm). This feeling is consistent with the logs that show a significant decrease in the boost past 6000rpm…

I allready bought, but not installed, a dual cone filter, and I suppose that it will help a bit…

However, I believe that this will not be enough, so I would like to do something about it, but staying catted, though…

So, I think my 3 best options are:

Catted DP’S (AR?)
Full Exhaust (Milltek?)
FMIC (Helix?)

I am stuck between these options, because for now I can only choose one!

Also, for what I read, these mods cost more or less the same and give same power output…

For aesthetic reasons, I am leaning for the Milltek, but no sure though…

Any thoughts?

Rodrigo

edo · 11-18-2009, 03:38 PM

FMIC

GeorgeSmooth · 11-18-2009, 03:40 PM

I would go for the intercooler next for two reasons. Because it lowers intake temperatures it is something that is also healthy for the motor. It will make the power you currently have more consistent and I personally was amazed with the Helix in its ability to cool down after each hard run.
If you not going to be sitting flat out for long periods of time then go with the DP's first. In my personal experience they yielded far more power than the cooler and made boost response amazing.

TurboSid · 11-18-2009, 03:40 PM

i agree with fmic.

Rodrigo Byscaia de Carval · 11-18-2009, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edo

FMIC

Hey!!!

You have "my" mods!

SlicktopTTZ · 11-18-2009, 03:40 PM

Get something with cast end-tanks for good airflow and less pressure drop, like the AMS or Evolution Racewerks Intercooler.

thwgw24 · 11-18-2009, 03:53 PM

FMIC for sure.
As a matter of fact, I have a brand new Helix FMIC for sell.
Shoot me a pm if you are interested.

DOUT · 11-18-2009, 11:48 PM

CATLESS DPS FTMFW!!!
Get the new Macht Schnell ones from EAS... They look sick!!!
I have A&R Catless and love them more and more every day.

ar design · 11-19-2009, 12:22 AM

DP + FMIC for sure

Craig@SupremePower · 11-19-2009, 12:25 AM

+1... AR Design Catless DP's FTMFW!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ar design

DP + FMIC for sure

marcel b · 11-19-2009, 01:03 AM

FMIC for sure. there is s groupbuy from ETS running at the moment...

JayKay335i · 11-19-2009, 01:30 AM

FMIC -> DPs -> Exhaust

john boxter · 11-19-2009, 01:31 AM

downpipes get the front mount in the summer im sure you will love the downpipes

Zeph · 11-19-2009, 08:18 AM

FMIC... same answer most give on every one of these surveys. You just can't efficiently run 12 or 14 or 15, etc. psi on that stock piece of crap FMIC. It is restrictive and more importantly just can't keep the IAT's down.

Protect your engine, turbos, etc... and make consistent power that lasts more than a quick glory dyno run. Get an FMIC!

doctor_vino · 11-19-2009, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcel b

FMIC for sure. there is s groupbuy from ETS running at the moment...

+1

tom @ eas · 11-20-2009, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeph

FMIC... same answer most give on every one of these surveys. You just can't efficiently run 12 or 14 or 15, etc. psi on that stock piece of crap FMIC. It is restrictive and more importantly just can't keep the IAT's down.

Protect your engine, turbos, etc... and make consistent power that lasts more than a quick glory dyno run. Get an FMIC!

+1. FMIC first, downpipes next.

scottp999 · 11-20-2009, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayKay335i

FMIC -> DPs -> Exhaust

I have all three and this is the way to go! FMIC, DP's, Exhaust.

ETS Michael · 11-20-2009, 03:44 PM

FMIC -

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=321704

Check out the link above.. This has all the info in regards to our intercooler and it's on sale right now!

Michael

Rodrigo Byscaia de Carval · 11-20-2009, 08:34 PM

Thank you for your thoughts.

It seems that the FMIC is getting ahead in the pool, and I agree that it may be the logical step, but:

1) I will do both mods in the near future for sure...
2) The winter is here...
3) I run my car hard 95% of the time at night, so temperature may not be that much of a problem...
4) I could install the FMIC in the summer...

Against all odds, I am leaning towards the 3" Catless Downpipes now and leave the FMIC to the summer...

Specially now that I know I can install and uninstall it myself (rhino ramp

)!!!

My main purpose is to gain top end power...

BaLLzZz · 11-20-2009, 10:13 PM

Honestly I like the FMIC for the whole package. BUT if i could only choose one i would get the UNCATTED dps. After me and my friend installed and took it off the lift first turnover brought a smile ear to ear. I actually installed an RPI FMIC and RR Coated Un catted dps the same day. DPS by far yield more power and bring a sound that might make you forget about an exhaust and be sleeper unless you want to free up some airflow.

In closing DOWN PIPES(uncatted trust me)

shochu75 · 11-21-2009, 02:35 AM

wait hold on, you have a procede V2, and you're running the newest 11-2 maps? Isn't that for firmware 145 and the V3 and up? Just wondering cuz I had a V2 that I just upgraded to a V3 rev II so I could run the newest maps and have all the new goodies that Shiv gives us lol.

Rodrigo Byscaia de Carval · 11-21-2009, 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shochu75

wait hold on, you have a procede V2, and you're running the newest 11-2 maps? Isn't that for firmware 145 and the V3 and up? Just wondering cuz I had a V2 that I just upgraded to a V3 rev II so I could run the newest maps and have all the new goodies that Shiv gives us lol.

I have the PROcede Rev. II CANbus version, and uploaded the firmware 145 to run these maps. So, I think it is the V3RevII.

I have corrected the info in the first message. Thank you.

View Poll Results: Which mod next?
Catted DP’S	11	19.64%
Full Exhaust	5	8.93%
FMIC	39	69.64%
Other	1	1.79%
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11-18-2009, 03:36 PM	#1
Rodrigo Byscaia de Carval RBC 1 Rep 12 Posts Drives: BMW 335i E92 '07 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lisbon (Portugal) iTrader: (0)	After Proceed: FMIC, CATTED DP’S OR FULL EXHAUST? Car: 07 335i 6MT Vishnu V3 - Map 1 – 11-2 BMS Dual Cone Intake (not installed yet) After using my Proceed for a while, I feel the need to go further… I am overall satisfied with my car, but if feel that it isn’t “breeding” as it could on the upper RPM’s (+6000rpm). This feeling is consistent with the logs that show a significant decrease in the boost past 6000rpm… I allready bought, but not installed, a dual cone filter, and I suppose that it will help a bit… However, I believe that this will not be enough, so I would like to do something about it, but staying catted, though… So, I think my 3 best options are: Catted DP’S (AR?) Full Exhaust (Milltek?) FMIC (Helix?) I am stuck between these options, because for now I can only choose one! Also, for what I read, these mods cost more or less the same and give same power output… For aesthetic reasons, I am leaning for the Milltek, but no sure though… Any thoughts? Rodrigo Attached Images Last edited by Rodrigo Byscaia de Carval; 11-21-2009 at 02:37 AM..
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11-18-2009, 03:38 PM	#2
edo ****** 54 Rep 886 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: hell iTrader: (1)	FMIC __________________ Mods: RB turbos, JB4, BMS DCI, Scoops, Forge DVs, ar design catless DPs, Milltek exhaust system, Helix FMIC, Quaife LSD, VK MotorWerks OC Kit, Bilstein B16 PSS10
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11-18-2009, 03:40 PM	#3
GeorgeSmooth Lieutenant 40 Rep 565 Posts Drives: 2008 E90 335i AT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: South Africa iTrader: (0)	I would go for the intercooler next for two reasons. Because it lowers intake temperatures it is something that is also healthy for the motor. It will make the power you currently have more consistent and I personally was amazed with the Helix in its ability to cool down after each hard run. If you not going to be sitting flat out for long periods of time then go with the DP's first. In my personal experience they yielded far more power than the cooler and made boost response amazing. __________________ 08 E90 335i AT RB Turbos -NX Wet Kit - Chiplogic Flash or Procede V5- M3 Diff - AE Exhaust- Forge Dv's - Helix Intercooler - AR DP's - P3 Boost Gauge - Vishnu Meth- Stett Chargepipe and CAI 09 C63
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11-18-2009, 03:40 PM	#4
TurboSid Brigadier General 1149 Rep 3,269 Posts Drives: 2022 M4Cx BSM/FR Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Florida iTrader: (4) Garage List 2008 335i [0.00]	i agree with fmic. __________________ 2022 BSM/FR M4 Competition X-Drive 2017 MW/SO M4 ZCP [SOLD] • 2015 MW/SO M4 M-DCT FBO [SOLD] • 2011 AW/CR 335is DCT FBO [SOLD] • 2008 AW/CR 335i 6MT FBO [SOLD]
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11-18-2009, 03:40 PM	#6
SlicktopTTZ Captain 13 Rep 685 Posts Drives: 91 300ZX Twin-Turbo, 2010 135i Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas iTrader: (0)	Get something with cast end-tanks for good airflow and less pressure drop, like the AMS or Evolution Racewerks Intercooler.
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11-18-2009, 03:53 PM	#7
thwgw24 Major 60 Rep 1,065 Posts Drives: RB PWRED E90 N54 6MT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bellevue, WA iTrader: (19) Garage List 07' E90 335i [0.00]	FMIC for sure. As a matter of fact, I have a brand new Helix FMIC for sell. Shoot me a pm if you are interested. __________________ RB Turbo/Procede V5/Vishnu PWM Meth Injection Kit/Vishnu DCI/AR Catless DP/AE Performance Exhaust(Sold)/Helix FMIC/Forge DVs/Rixster Vent Boost Gauge/Wavetrac LSD/KW V3/ACT Street Clutch Kit
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11-18-2009, 11:48 PM	#8
DOUT Captain 56 Rep 783 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (2)	CATLESS DPS FTMFW!!! Get the new Macht Schnell ones from EAS... They look sick!!! I have A&R Catless and love them more and more every day. __________________ 2021 M3 6MT Brooklyn Grey/Silverstone Previous: 2009 335i ZMP 2013 M3 6MT ZCP Space Grey/Fox Red
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11-19-2009, 12:22 AM	#9
ar design 302 Rep 4,408 Posts Drives: 04 M3 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denver, CO iTrader: (9)	DP + FMIC for sure __________________ -Critter
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11-19-2009, 01:03 AM	#11
marcel b Lieutenant Colonel 137 Rep 1,898 Posts Drives: F31 340i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Europe iTrader: (0)	FMIC for sure. there is s groupbuy from ETS running at the moment...
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11-19-2009, 01:30 AM	#12
JayKay335i Banned 198 Rep 5,046 Posts Drives: ///M323 DCT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: North Dakota; its best DUHHHHHH iTrader: (1)	FMIC -> DPs -> Exhaust
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11-19-2009, 01:31 AM	#13
john boxter Captain 38 Rep 763 Posts Drives: 2008 e93 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: long Island New York iTrader: (3)	downpipes get the front mount in the summer im sure you will love the downpipes
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11-19-2009, 08:18 AM	#14
Zeph Major 29 Rep 1,410 Posts Drives: 2008 E92 335i 6MT SGM CR/BD Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Southeast USA iTrader: (0)	FMIC... same answer most give on every one of these surveys. You just can't efficiently run 12 or 14 or 15, etc. psi on that stock piece of crap FMIC. It is restrictive and more importantly just can't keep the IAT's down. Protect your engine, turbos, etc... and make consistent power that lasts more than a quick glory dyno run. Get an FMIC!
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11-20-2009, 03:44 PM	#18
ETS Michael Major 80 Rep 1,155 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver, WA iTrader: (4)	FMIC - http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=321704 Check out the link above.. This has all the info in regards to our intercooler and it's on sale right now! Michael
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11-20-2009, 08:34 PM	#19
Rodrigo Byscaia de Carval RBC 1 Rep 12 Posts Drives: BMW 335i E92 '07 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lisbon (Portugal) iTrader: (0)	But then again... Thank you for your thoughts. It seems that the FMIC is getting ahead in the pool, and I agree that it may be the logical step, but: 1) I will do both mods in the near future for sure... 2) The winter is here... 3) I run my car hard 95% of the time at night, so temperature may not be that much of a problem... 4) I could install the FMIC in the summer... Against all odds, I am leaning towards the 3" Catless Downpipes now and leave the FMIC to the summer... Specially now that I know I can install and uninstall it myself (rhino ramp )!!! My main purpose is to gain top end power...
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11-20-2009, 10:13 PM	#20
BaLLzZz Colonel 128 Rep 2,298 Posts Drives: e92 335i Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NYC iTrader: (5)	Honestly I like the FMIC for the whole package. BUT if i could only choose one i would get the UNCATTED dps. After me and my friend installed and took it off the lift first turnover brought a smile ear to ear. I actually installed an RPI FMIC and RR Coated Un catted dps the same day. DPS by far yield more power and bring a sound that might make you forget about an exhaust and be sleeper unless you want to free up some airflow. In closing DOWN PIPES(uncatted trust me) __________________ Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. - Albert Einstein 01 e46 m54 - Current : 14 f10 n26 - Boring & Gone : 15 f30 n26 - Current : 08 e92 n54 - Gone & Missed!!!
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11-21-2009, 02:35 AM	#21
shochu75 Private First Class 5 Rep 126 Posts Drives: e90 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: honolulu iTrader: (0)	wait hold on, you have a procede V2, and you're running the newest 11-2 maps? Isn't that for firmware 145 and the V3 and up? Just wondering cuz I had a V2 that I just upgraded to a V3 rev II so I could run the newest maps and have all the new goodies that Shiv gives us lol.
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