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      10-07-2006, 11:43 AM   #1
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I Got It! :( w/ bird poo

i finally got my 328I Premium package, Navi with RTT, sound system, PDC, and automatic transmission. Black with saddle brown interior. Problem is whenever they pulled it out of thier garage at the dealer a damn bird came and shit like 3 diff places. When i went home, i took some wax and a MF towel and took it off. Now there is a mark from the bird shit and i have swirls around that area where i waxed. ON A 14 HOUR OLD CAR! IMA BOUT TO GO TO SOME SHOP TO BUY SOME CLEANING SUPPLIES, WHAT DO YOU RECOMAND FOR THE BIRD SHIT MARK AND THE SWIRLS AROUND IT
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I would take it back to the dealer, since that is where the bird crapped. If there are a good dealer, they will take care of it for you.
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i finally got my 328I Premium package, Navi with RTT, sound system, PDC, and automatic transmission. Black with saddle brown interior. Problem is whenever they pulled it out of thier garage at the dealer a damn bird came and shit like 3 diff places. When i went home, i took some wax and a MF towel and took it off. Now there is a mark from the bird shit and i have swirls around that area where i waxed. ON A 14 HOUR OLD CAR! IMA BOUT TO GO TO SOME SHOP TO BUY SOME CLEANING SUPPLIES, WHAT DO YOU RECOMAND FOR THE BIRD SHIT MARK AND THE SWIRLS AROUND IT
if it was my car i would take it to a professional detail shop. that bird shit is acidic and can cause perm. damage. i just wouldnt feel comfortable trying to fix it myself but there are many members here who might be able to walk you through the steps. thread should be moved to the wash and wax section.
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      10-07-2006, 11:51 AM   #4
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I would first use a light polish to get rid of the mark and then use wax

Meguiars has some very good stuff

Their bug and tar remover may also work well
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i finally got my 328I Premium package, Navi with RTT, sound system, PDC, and automatic transmission. Black with saddle brown interior. Problem is whenever they pulled it out of thier garage at the dealer a damn bird came and shit like 3 diff places. When i went home, i took some wax and a MF towel and took it off. Now there is a mark from the bird shit and i have swirls around that area where i waxed. ON A 14 HOUR OLD CAR! IMA BOUT TO GO TO SOME SHOP TO BUY SOME CLEANING SUPPLIES, WHAT DO YOU RECOMAND FOR THE BIRD SHIT MARK AND THE SWIRLS AROUND IT

Isnt there something like a 14.5 hour warranty?

Take it to the dealer pronto.
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      10-07-2006, 11:56 AM   #6
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sorry guys...but taking it to the dealer because of bird crap makes me look like a stuck up bitch...so i'd rather do it...plus...doesn't everyone here tell you not to go to the dealer because they will put swirls in the car
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Isnt there something like a 14.5 hour warranty?

Take it to the dealer pronto.
from what i have read on this forum many times i get the feeling that the dealer would make the problem worse. it seems that most of the members here who know a lot about detailling cars wont even let the dealer prep their cars from the get go because they suck at it.
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sorry guys...but taking it to the dealer because of bird crap makes me look like a stuck up bitch...so i'd rather do it...plus...doesn't everyone here tell you not to go to the dealer because they will put swirls in the car
exactly. Try this http://autopia.org/ No offense to this forum.
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try milk. Seriously. It neutralised the acid from the bird poop.

Then: 1) Paint Cleaner (I use Meguiars DC 1 Paint Cleaner)
2) Polish (I use Meguiars DC 2 Polish)
3) Wax (I use NXT Wax).

Let the wax sit on the pannel for 50-60 minutes (preferably in a garage or something to minimize dust/dirt)

Wax off.

I've got a saphire black car, african birds have VERY acidic poop. Lots of experience.

Words of warning. Don't do one spot - do an entire pannel (ie the whole hood or whole door). The milk should be left on for about 10 minutes. If it's a vertical pannel - soak an MF in milk and DAB! Paint cleaner isn't always nessesary, I just prefer it...
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      10-07-2006, 12:41 PM   #10
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      10-07-2006, 01:14 PM   #11
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I'm pretty sure poldim was being sarcastic hence the '14.5 hr warranty"

I like broken's detailing advice
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from what i have read on this forum many times i get the feeling that the dealer would make the problem worse. it seems that most of the members here who know a lot about detailling cars wont even let the dealer prep their cars from the get go because they suck at it.
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exactly. Try this http://autopia.org/ No offense to this forum.

+1 autopia.com is awesome, plus the dealer would laugh at you for being super metro...
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Where in Texas are you? I know several very good detailers in TX - I would recommend bringing it to one, getting the paint in good shape, then maintaining it properly. Autopia.org, bettercarcare.com etc, all good places to start.
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So, what is the difference if you have the "swirl marks" on your car now, in two days or in 2 months???
They will be there sooner or later.
What is up with us -- BMW drivers. It is just a damn car. It will have swirls, chips, dents, scratches... Go, drive it and enjoy it -- that is the difference between the BMW and most of other cars...

OK, gotta go and wash my car now...
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      10-07-2006, 03:12 PM   #15
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sorry guys...but taking it to the dealer because of bird crap makes me look like a stuck up bitch...so i'd rather do it...plus...doesn't everyone here tell you not to go to the dealer because they will put swirls in the car
Would you rather look stupid and have the problem resolved or suck it up and pay the piper? Its your car and you did just buy it. The dealer backed my car into another car and scratched it. I did not take possession and demanded it to get fixed. They tried to do a spot paint job and I noticed and was pissed. I refused the car again and threatened to leave the deal unless they repainted the entire bumper or take one off of another car. Needless to say it got fixed right away. You should've had them clean it immediately. Why did you use wax to take off bird shit anyways? The swirl marks are the least of your concerns. The etching from the bird shit needs to be fixed ASAP.
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So, what is the difference if you have the "swirl marks" on your car now, in two days or in 2 months???
They will be there sooner or later.
What is up with us -- BMW drivers. It is just a damn car. It will have swirls, chips, dents, scratches... Go, drive it and enjoy it -- that is the difference between the BMW and most of other cars...

OK, gotta go and wash my car now...
You know, it is possible to keep it looking good *and* enjoy it. It's also possible to maintain paint without it getting swirls marks.

I always equate this type of thing to saying "Why bother cleaning your house, it's just a pile of lumber?".
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You know, it is possible to keep it looking good *and* enjoy it. It's also possible to maintain paint without it getting swirls marks.

I always equate this type of thing to saying "Why bother cleaning your house, it's just a pile of lumber?".
Actually, if you don't clean the house, it stinks, the bugs move in, kids get sick...and it falls apart. If you have swirls on the outside of your E9x, nothing (bad) will happen
But I know what you're saying, I am the same way. However, I have the TiAg -- no swirls visible there. Even the bird shit is not visible on that one
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Well, if you have swirls on your car odds are you're not maintaining the paint. Oxidation could follow, as well as possible rust in stone chips (assuming you aren't filling them), eventual clear coat failure, kids get sick, nuns die in the streets.

Seriously though, I get the idea. I just think car maintenance is sometimes made to seem like a "huge deal" on this board while in reality it really isn't that hard to maintain even a black car. Cheers.
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man..just use clorox..it works like magic and dosen't cause any damage..with a cotton rag...u will be fine...
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man..just use clorox..it works like magic and dosen't cause any damage..with a cotton rag...u will be fine...
or a screwdriver?
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You certainly don't want to leave the acidic stuff on any chrome parts. I don't recall if the E92 328 has any (aside from the kidney grille). That crap got itched into my window trim.
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man..just use clorox..it works like magic and dosen't cause any damage..with a cotton rag...u will be fine...
actually i've heard that sand paper will work even better and is very easy to use.
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