facelift my e90

cads 335d msport · 12-12-2009, 06:42 PM

hi i have got e90 335d msport 2007 and ihave made it a face lift 2009 with bonnet bumper and angel lights and rear boot and rear lights they fit fine and work aswell but my rear lights flash quick when i indicate and when i put in reverse the brake lights come on, can any 1 help me here? do you no where i can get a wireing loom from plug and play or may be program it, i have been to bmw dealership and they can not do it under terms and condition ??

SoYank · 12-12-2009, 07:06 PM

Actually you've just given an old car a facelift in much the same way as old women go to plastic surgeons for facelifts. It's still a 2007.

Can't help you much with the lights issue. Quick flashing lights on older cars was an indication that one of the four bulbs was out. This was because the circuit was drawing more current and heating the bi-metal strip faster. I doubt if the E90 uses the flasher switch anymore.

cads 335d msport · 12-12-2009, 07:16 PM

do you know of any good electricians iv been to a lot of garages but they have not come across this conversion yet

SiKkBaSs · 12-12-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cads 335d msport

do you know of any good electricians iv been to a lot of garages but they have not come across this conversion yet

That's because it's unheard of!!!

Not as bad as converting a regular 3 to an M3 I suppose. What was wrong with modding it as a regular E90 Pre LCI then?

Just curious...

E92Fan · 12-12-2009, 09:14 PM

Almost certainly the wiring looms have changed and you'll need to modify the existing wiring loom which will be the easiest way. i don't think it'll be feasible changing the entire loom, as there will probably be other modules as part of that loom.

You need a good independent BMW specialist who will be willing to tackle the wiring issue for you.

ps.. I've moved this thread to the Technical Section on your behalf...

Dr Dave · 12-13-2009, 02:34 AM

Fast flash you are gonna have to fool the BCU somewhat - a big task.

Any pics of your conversion?

ElegantSpoon · 12-13-2009, 05:35 AM

You will have to work out what pins on the light to what and then work out what cable does what and connect them to the relevant pin.

Have you got a multi metre?

greatbm · 12-13-2009, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by cads 335d msport

hi i have got e90 335d msport 2007 and ihave made it a face lift 2009 with bonnet bumper and angel lights and rear boot and rear lights they fit fine and work aswell but my rear lights flash quick when i indicate and when i put in reverse the brake lights come on, can any 1 help me here? do you no where i can get a wireing loom from plug and play or may be program it, i have been to bmw dealership and they can not do it under terms and condition ??

Quick flash of the indicators may be down to the face lift type being LED's. What happens when you apply brake, what shows ?

q_jonblaze · 12-13-2009, 06:20 AM

i know that on the e46 bmws, if the rear lights were changed to led (as in your case), the light module in the car(the thing you switch ur lights on with) needed to changed and also required a reprogram (only a few hours work) by bmw or a good indy.

i believe that this is what you are going through now....

SiKkBaSs · 12-13-2009, 07:30 AM

I wanna see pics...

Yahoo · 12-13-2009, 08:11 AM

cads 335d msport - I have got an LCI msport rear diffuser in my garage, pm me if you are interested in it.

Petem95 · 12-13-2009, 08:53 AM

That must have cost a fair bit to do that conversion!

- front lights
- front grille with spots
- front bumper
- facelift bonnet
- rear lights
- rear boot lid
- rear bumper

Guessing that lot for parts alone is in the £2k region?!

Dr Dave · 12-13-2009, 09:08 AM

Not to mention the paint!

Walesy · 12-13-2009, 10:15 AM

probably what you have spent doing this and what your gonna spend sorting it out, you would have benn better using the money and trading in your car for a face lift.

SiKkBaSs · 12-13-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Walesy

probably what you have spent doing this and what your gonna spend sorting it out, you would have benn better using the money and trading in your car for a face lift.

This.

Tunna_uk · 12-13-2009, 10:58 AM

sounds like a lot of effort. In for pictures.

cads 335d msport · 12-13-2009, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Dave

Fast flash you are gonna have to fool the BCU somewhat - a big task.

Any pics of your conversion?

i will have the picture very soon thanks

cads 335d msport · 12-13-2009, 08:39 PM

which multi meter is it ??

cads 335d msport · 12-13-2009, 08:41 PM

when i apply brakes the brake light shows but my rear fog lights stay on all the time and when i put it in reverse the lights flicker

cads 335d msport · 12-13-2009, 08:42 PM

bmw can not reprogram my car under terms and condition

cads 335d msport · 12-13-2009, 08:46 PM

so far iv spent 4k includeing my white paint and black roof and carbon difusser and i have 24k in my car and the face lift would cost me 35k in white so its doing me well

giotecno · 12-14-2009, 03:53 AM

Mate you need resistors for the LED's on the lci rear lights, check out the US forums and speak to a guy called e90 andy he can create a wiring loom with the correct resistors for you... I had my xenon retrofit and got him to sort me out the load resistors, so I dont get errors from my xenons... And enjoy the LCI look

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E92Fan Moderator 335 Rep 5,493 Posts Drives: . Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: . iTrader: (0)	Almost certainly the wiring looms have changed and you'll need to modify the existing wiring loom which will be the easiest way. i don't think it'll be feasible changing the entire loom, as there will probably be other modules as part of that loom. You need a good independent BMW specialist who will be willing to tackle the wiring issue for you. ps.. I've moved this thread to the Technical Section on your behalf... __________________ ... ... ... DMS Remap Review ----- Quaife LSD Review ----- Hartge Antiroll Bars Review ----- Bilstein PSS10 B16 Ride Control Review ----- Detail by ShineOn ----- Paintshield Review
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Petem95 Private First Class 21 Rep 110 Posts Drives: 2008 330d M-Sport Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Leeds, UK iTrader: (0)	That must have cost a fair bit to do that conversion! - front lights - front grille with spots - front bumper - facelift bonnet - rear lights - rear boot lid - rear bumper Guessing that lot for parts alone is in the £2k region?! __________________ 2008 E92 330d M-Sport, Sapphire Black, 19" 225M's
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cads 335d msport New Member 2 Rep 12 Posts Drives: bmw e90 335d msport Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: london iTrader: (0)	which multi meter is it ??
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cads 335d msport New Member 2 Rep 12 Posts Drives: bmw e90 335d msport Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: london iTrader: (0)	when i apply brakes the brake light shows but my rear fog lights stay on all the time and when i put it in reverse the lights flicker
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cads 335d msport New Member 2 Rep 12 Posts Drives: bmw e90 335d msport Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: london iTrader: (0)	bmw can not reprogram my car under terms and condition
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cads 335d msport New Member 2 Rep 12 Posts Drives: bmw e90 335d msport Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: london iTrader: (0)	so far iv spent 4k includeing my white paint and black roof and carbon difusser and i have 24k in my car and the face lift would cost me 35k in white so its doing me well
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