BMW Pro Sat Nav 2010-1

bluemax · 12-20-2009, 02:31 PM

Hi all

Might have missed this elsewhere, but:

a) is it out yet?
b) is it much different graphically?
c) what other than an updated POI list does it offer?

thanks
B

Estoril Sport · 12-20-2009, 03:09 PM

The HD version for 2009 has just been released, so I think you might to wait a bit longer.
The car is booked in at the dealer for the upgrade early Jan 2010 for the 2009 verison, only a year late. The DVD version should be out a bit sooner.

M3-FAST · 12-20-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Estoril Sport

The HD version for 2009 has just been released, so I think you might to wait a bit longer to wait.
The car is booked in at the dealer for the upgrade early Jan 2010 for the 2009 verison, only a year late. The DVD version should be out a bit sooner.

Are you having to pay for this?

This was a major gripe of mine when I collected the car. 2009-1 was out and 2009-2 was released within weeks. My car with the HDD based nav was sold with 2008-1 installed

, even in Spring 2009.

My dealer said they will see if they can sort it FOC but not likely, and I may have to take it up with BMW customer services to see if they can arrange the upgrade FOC. Seeing as the car was sold with Nav software 12 months out of date, I don't see why I should be expected to pay for an 'upgrade' that is only putting the car back to how it should have come out of the factory!

Estoril Sport · 12-20-2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by M3-FAST

Are you having to pay for this?

This was a major gripe of mine when I collected the car. 2009-1 was out and 2009-2 was released within weeks. My car with the HDD based nav was sold with 2008-1 installed

, even in Spring 2009.

Picked my car in Sept 09 and the date was 2008 in the HD, I challenged this with will the salesman the next day and his reply was that this is the latest version.

Since October I believe the upgrade is now available, normally you would be changed for this however due to some warranty work needing on the car. I hoping that they are going to do the install this as a kind gesture, plus I am hoping that the Voice commend upgrade is also inclusive in the upgrade. Been talking to the service guys about this, but as yet they have not said either way, so I am hoping.

NFS · 12-20-2009, 04:16 PM

What is the "voice command update"?

How can you tell which version is installed on HDD cars?

M3-FAST · 12-20-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NFS

What is the "voice command update"?

How can you tell which version is installed on HDD cars?

I am not sure what the voice command update is. You can find the sat nav version in one of the menu's, cannot remember which one off the top of my head but not too difficult to find. My car has 2008-1 installed which was a year out of date when I collected the car. I am going to push to get the upgrade FOC.

Estoril Sport · 12-21-2009, 03:54 AM

The info about the voice command feature is at http://www.worldcarfans.com/10906081...control-system. As to my current HD Sat Nav version this is Roadmap Europe Premium 2008-2.

creepy coupe · 12-21-2009, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Estoril Sport

The info about the voice command feature is at http://www.worldcarfans.com/10906081...control-system. As to my current HD Sat Nav version this is Roadmap Europe Premium 2008-2.

Unfortunately mine doesn't work so flawlessly, it might be my accent though

M3-FAST · 12-21-2009, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Estoril Sport

The info about the voice command feature is at http://www.worldcarfans.com/10906081...control-system. As to my current HD Sat Nav version this is Roadmap Europe Premium 2008-2.

Thinking about it mine might be 2008-2 also - be interested to hear when you get it done, if it was done FOC and without any hassle.

Estoril Sport · 12-21-2009, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by creepy coupe

Unfortunately mine doesn't work so flawlessly, it might be my accent though

The Pre 2010 version of the voice command is crap, I tried it a few times but is is just to slow to use, however the current version post 2010 does sound better and much more user friendly to use.

NFS · 12-21-2009, 01:14 PM

Just checked my car. The nav version is 2009-02.

It also accepts nav destinations in a single voice command. You say the address as you would normally:

e.g. 10 Downing Street, London

It then says 'checking list', goes quiet for a minute then reads the address back to you.

Estoril Sport · 12-21-2009, 03:15 PM

NFS, sounds you have the updated version, can you say telephone and then the persons name in the same sentence? I have to say one word at a time and wait each time for the voice command to understand my request.

NFS I presume that the 355i is a 2010 model?

NFS · 12-21-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Estoril Sport

NFS, sounds you have the updated version, can you say telephone and then the persons name in the same sentence? I have to say one word at a time and wait each time for the voice command to understand my request.

NFS I presume that the 355i is a 2010 model?

The 335i is brand new. Build Dec 09.

I'll have to give the telephone thing a go. One of the few disapointments with the LCI system was finding that the voice recognition will not work for phone numbers stored on my phone.

On my 330i I could use the command "call David Smith" and it would dial the number stored for David Smith in my phones contacts. With the new one it seems that I need to create a new phone book specifically on the idrive system.

This seems to be a huge step backward as it appears to be very like the system which was included in my 2004 e60. On that car you had to dial in 2 stages with "Dial Name" then "David Smith".

M3-FAST · 12-21-2009, 05:26 PM

Could that be because the idrive displays all names with the surname first
? Have you tried asking it to call Smith David. I know it sounds stupid but I am sure I have read on another thread that this is the case!

NFS · 12-21-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by M3-FAST

Could that be because the idrive displays all names with the surname first
? Have you tried asking it to call Smith David. I know it sounds stupid but I am sure I have read on another thread that this is the case!

I'll try that. Would be great if it worked. The new idrive does reverse the name order for some reason. So all my contacts are surname first.

The manual talks about voice dialling save contacts though

Does seem bizarre that BMW would have ditched such a useful feature though.

M3-FAST · 12-22-2009, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by NFS

I'll try that. Would be great if it worked. The new idrive does reverse the name order for some reason. So all my contacts are surname first.

The manual talks about voice dialling save contacts though

Does seem bizarre that BMW would have ditched such a useful feature though.

If it does work, why oh why did they reverse all the names. I find it annoying as I have many contacts on my phone who I only know from their first name and it is a right pain trecking though to find the right person.

Estoril Sport · 12-22-2009, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by M3-FAST

If it does work, why oh why did they reverse all the names. I find it annoying as I have many contacts on my phone who I only know from their first name and it is a right pain trecking though to find the right person.

Because it was designed by Germans, At least the Germans I know tend to be very formal and insist in naming people by their surname. Even in there Software applications individuals are identified as Surname then first name.

cv8 · 12-23-2009, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bluemax

a) is it out yet?

Is this what you mean?

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=326140

NFS · 12-23-2009, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M3-FAST

If it does work, why oh why did they reverse all the names. I find it annoying as I have many contacts on my phone who I only know from their first name and it is a right pain trecking though to find the right person.

Played with this again and I'm very pleased to find that it does work, but you do have to use surname first.

Need to try to figure out the shortcuts. On the 330i I could say the following from any screen:

"call David Smith home"

On the new car I had to say:

"Phone Book"

Then ...

"Smith David"

It didn't seem to accept 'home' or 'mobile' as a way of selecting numbers for that contact, so I ended up making the call by clicking on the number manually.

bluemax · 12-23-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cv8

Is this what you mean?

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=326140

CV8 - yep, that's the ticket - thanks

regards
B

doughboy · 12-24-2009, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M3-FAST

If it does work, why oh why did they reverse all the names. I find it annoying as I have many contacts on my phone who I only know from their first name and it is a right pain trecking though to find the right person.

They don't reverse them?? I though everyone with more than about 10 contacts used surname first?? well done BMW for NOT reversing my contacts

You do have to 'say' them in the displayed order. And for multi-number contacts it will just say 'there is more than one number for this contact' and you have to select the number you want with the i-drive.

But if you save a name with a first name only, it still lists alphabetically in the overall list.

So just 'simon' will still list after Rogers but before Smith..

M3-FAST · 12-24-2009, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doughboy

They don't reverse them?? I though everyone with more than about 10 contacts used surname first?? well done BMW for NOT reversing my contacts

You do have to 'say' them in the displayed order. And for multi-number contacts it will just say 'there is more than one number for this contact' and you have to select the number you want with the i-drive.

But if you save a name with a first name only, it still lists alphabetically in the overall list.

So just 'simon' will still list after Rogers but before Smith..

Not everyone because I dont! I do have everyone programmed in my phone correctly but it would be nice if I could choose to display them in the order that I like!

BMW used to display first name and then surname and it is far easier asking the car to ring David Smith instead of Smith David. There are also some business contacts that I only call once in a blue moon, and whilst I always remember their first name I sometimes forget their surname. I don't want them in my phone as first name only, because it syncs up with my computer address book and I like to have all the contact details correctly programmed. With a system as complex and clever as the idrive system, it seems a huge oversight to not be able to choose. My phone allows me to choose, my car doesn't

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