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      12-23-2009, 11:01 PM   #1
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Emergency help: Battery cable was the problem!

Bottom line: bought a used procede rev 2. Hooked it all up, let the car idle for several minutes.. Everything was great. I button everything up and got in the car drove it around got on the freeway etc etc. It started booosting more and more. Stock my car was reading 9psi on my rixt3r gauge but don't know If that's too high because I never calibrated it. Anyway I'm seeing 16+ on my gauge which I think is too much. I haven't adjusted anything on the piggy but it's used so j don't know if those settings clear when unplugged or not. But basically I was breaking the tires loose with ease in 2nd. No ses light even now. but I got a braking/driving code, then a transmission code saying drive slow then my speedo was going from 40->0 mph. Now when I push the brakes my dash flickers and All kinds of weird shit. It started running real bad and I'm now on the side if the road. Never heard of this before. The only thing I've done is hit off on the fob a couple times to make sure I wasn't in sone crazy map. Any help is appreciated before I call my private/non BMW towing.

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      12-23-2009, 11:31 PM   #2
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is it possible that the person you bought it from was running much more boost than your car due to mods or did you load the appropriate stage maps before driving?
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      12-23-2009, 11:34 PM   #3
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That's crazy. Not too fimilar with the workings of the procede. Best of luck hopefully someone helps u out
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      12-23-2009, 11:44 PM   #4
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Chances are I should have hooked my car up to the lappy prior to driving and reset everything. I have no idea how it works really. Vishnu doesn't have any kind of operating manual available on the website and I think they expect everyone to be the initial owner. Perhaps they expect people to have read a specific post located somewhere I don't know. But if it's all plug and play like they say and automatic etc I don't see why I'm having trouble. If it can store the settings for the car why can't it recognize it's plugged into a different car and recommend the settings for the piggy be reset or recalibrated... It would be absurd for the procede to utilize the same settings for two different cars.

My lights on my dash fade in and out and flicker when I hit the brakes. I could hear weird noises in my shifting linkage area of my step when pushing the brakes. My hazzards made all my dash lights blink. I could hear noises coming from my engine bay when the car was off that i've never heard... Just lots of nonsense.

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      12-23-2009, 11:46 PM   #5
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Hmm, not much you can do on the side of the road unless you have the tools to take the box out.

Did you verify the software/fw levels as well as the map/stage on the box when you installed it? It could have had strange settings or something. Where you on the meth map? Try using DTC to go to valet mode?

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My car won't start right now, let alone a single button do the job it is supposed to.
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      12-23-2009, 11:46 PM   #6
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Unplug it immediately and see if all the issues go away.
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      12-23-2009, 11:47 PM   #7
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Maybe you're running MT maps on an AT car, that's why you got the transmission code. Hard to tell without knowing what your settings are. It's not unusual to see 16psi depending on the unknown settings you have.
I would try to take Procede off, hopefully you didn't put everything back on or at least extended the USB cable out of the ECU box so you can check your firmware and maps.
Good luck
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      12-23-2009, 11:52 PM   #8
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I think you might have plugged one of the connector backwards, or .Even if you are off by one pin, the car will make all sorts of weird noises....Don't tow the car to the dealer...if anything back home...It has to be some kind of connection issue....When I first did the install with the PNP, I was off by one pin and the harnass was not hooked up right...that could be your issue..
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Chances are I should have hooked my car up to the pappy prior to driving and reset everything. I have no idea how it works really. Vishnu doesn't have any kind of operating manual available on the website and I think they expect everyone to be the initial owner. Perhaps they expect people to have read a specific post located somewhere I don't know. But if it's all plug and play like they say and automatic etc I don't see why I'm having trouble. If it can store the settings for the car why can't it recognize it's plugged into a different car and recommend the settings for the piggy be reset or recalibrated... It would be absurd for the procede to utilize the same settings for two different cars.
^^ thats not really true.. vishnutuningforum.com has pretty much all the info you need install/run/tune your car
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      12-23-2009, 11:54 PM   #10
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Maybe you're running MT maps on an AT car, that's why you got the transmission code. Hard to tell without knowing what your settings are. It's not unusual to see 16psi depending on the unknown settings you have.
I would try to take Procede off, hopefully you didn't put everything back on or at least extended the USB cable out of the ECU box so you can check your firmware and maps.
Good luck
I'm not panicking because I have faith... I put it all back together. I'm going to tow it home and do the USB cable install which I didn't do before because I don't have a serial adapter. Do they sell one at walmart?
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I'm not panicking because I have faith... I put it all back together. I'm going to tow it home and do the USB cable install which I didn't do before because I don't have a serial adapter. Do they sell one at walmart?
Thats good...tow it back home and work on it tomorrow....When taking off the Procede, look at each connection to make sure that its on its respective spot/pin....Like I said I was off by one pin and the car starting making weird ass noises, so I unplugged it and looked over the connection and realized what I did..
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. Perhaps they expect people to have read a specific post located somewhere I don't know. But if it's all plug and play like they say and automatic etc I don't see why I'm having trouble. If it can store the settings for the car why can't it recognize it's plugged into a different car and recommend the settings for the piggy be reset or recalibrated... It would be absurd for the procede to utilize the same settings for two different cars.


that isn't how it works and not how it has ever been advertised
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I'm not panicking because I have faith... I put it all back together. I'm going to tow it home and do the USB cable install which I didn't do before because I don't have a serial adapter. Do they sell one at walmart?
Best buys would sell them or even Radio shack...
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I'm not panicking because I have faith... I put it all back together. I'm going to tow it home and do the USB cable install which I didn't do before because I don't have a serial adapter. Do they sell one at walmart?
I'm using the Radioshack version, not sure if Walmart carries something similar.
I would check all the connectors one more time. It's probably a simple connection issue, or worst case a problem with your Procede hardware or harness.
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      12-24-2009, 12:14 AM   #15
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+1

This isn't upgrading from 89 to 93 octane at Shell.

The car is probably fine. Watch the video very carefully, go slow, and you'll be aces.

Keep us posted.

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yep. I'm not saying that vishnu did anything wrong at all. this is quite obviously operator error however, when I go to vishnu's website they have a link for support and under that there is install guides etc etc which were great but I didn't see anything of the sorts of operating manual. but while I was there I got a chuckle out of this information that was new to me until today *COUGH*

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Q: I am very interested on installing a BOV (Blow-off Valve), is that going to be a problem?
A: It is best for one to resist the temptation of installing an aftermarket BOV as our cars were not designed to release excess boost pressure into the atmosphere. Doing so will effect the PROcede’s tuning and cause the car to run poorly. The car was designed to recirculate that excess air back into the intake system. Bleeding off the air that was accounted for by the MAF sensor will confuse everything.
If this was put there as an inside joke then nevermind. But if they were serious I was a little confused HAHA. maybe this is why my car isn't working correctly.
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You could have had the ECU connectors loose. Remove the tune and put it back to stock. See if it goes away?
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I'd retrace all of the wires as what you describe sounds like the ECU isn't fully connected (that could be on the piggy end or ECU end). The side of the road is NOT the place to do this. Have the car towed home and take a look at it in the AM.

I'd also give the Vishnu guys a call. They were great when helping me diagnose some issues I had.

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Sounds like you did not seat one of the ECU connectors fully and it came loose as you were driving.

Check your ECU connectors to make sure they are fully seated, and also check the power wire on the green plug to make sure this is still seated.

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So how long were you driving fine before everything went kaboom?

I'd just take it home and put it back to stock, see if it run, then add the PROcede and see if it still runs. I F'd up on my first PnP Rev.I and you'd definitely know when one pin went into another pin's hole. The car started but shook bad like it's dying/choking.

So let's hope it's just the connections and nothing more serious.

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Sounds like you did not seat one of the ECU connectors fully and it came loose as you were driving.

Check your ECU connectors to make sure they are fully seated, and also check the power wire on the green plug to make sure this is still seated.

-Rick
Yep I think this is the problem. The big ecu connector seemed to go in a little too easy. I wish I had everything on video because it was so bizzare. I do have one vid though.

EDIT: I unplugged everything and plugged it back in and when I reconnect the battery to my car it just clicks really quickly. I think its the fuel pump clicking over and over. And I can hear a clicking in my speakers faintly. No lights come on except my gear indicator on on the shifter and a light by the iDrive knob. After I had it towed, I came back out after about 30 minutes and the car electronics seemed fine. Comfort access worked, car locked and unlocked etc. After I had taken the ECU box cover off, I went to the store. When I got back, the car was just clicking over and over again. If I unplug the negative terminal and put it back on, sometimes the light in my trunk lights up. Some times it just stays dark. Freakin weird as hell. I'll change it back to stock tomorrow and report back. But that really just doesn't make any sense to me at all.

Here is a video while I was in the car after my car started sputtering and turned off.
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      12-24-2009, 03:41 AM   #21
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any update man>?
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any update man>?
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its not the bov for sure... check the connections maybe they came loose
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