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      01-07-2010, 01:25 PM   #1
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Hard Disk Satnav Traffic Info???

On my new car the satnav is only picking up traffic information when the radio station is set to Classic FM.

On the old system, it picked up the Classic FM traffic feed regardless of what station is selected.

Any ideas what is wrong, or do they all do this (hope not!)
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      01-07-2010, 03:44 PM   #2
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Someone must know .. I can't find anything in the manual or elsewhere on the forum and can't cope with listening to Classic FM.
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      01-08-2010, 03:52 AM   #3
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On mine, the traffic info screen on Idrive doesn't seem to be dependant on any particular station, it's just there all the time.... or are you talking about something else?
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Isn't it something to do with having "regional" selected PTY it think it might also be called.
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On mine, the traffic info screen on Idrive doesn't seem to be dependant on any particular station, it's just there all the time.... or are you talking about something else?
Yes this is it. If I have Radio 1 on and go to the 'traffic info' symbol on the map (Triangle with exclamation mark inside) it says "Downloading Traffic Information" for a minute or so then "No Traffic Information Available".

If I do the same thing with Classic FM on it works fine and all the traffic warnings appear in the list and on the map.

When I switch back to Radio 1, the warnings are still there, but they don't appear to update.

I also seem to be missing traffic announcements from other stations, but have 'TP' switched on.
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      01-08-2010, 04:08 AM   #6
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Isn't it something to do with having "regional" selected PTY it think it might also be called.
Is this on a menu somewhere - can't remember seeing it???
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Is this on a menu somewhere - can't remember seeing it???
On the old idrive you had to click the tab on the screen marked "set" can't think where it is on the new system and I don't have the car here today.
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      01-08-2010, 04:38 AM   #8
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Do your radio stations also revert back to some random station as well after you have been listening to another source such as cd or ipod?

I can have mine set to Radio 1 and then for some reason it reverts back to BBC Radio Stoke or similar. Not sure if this is because it has recevied a traffic report from Radio Stoke whilst I had been listening to a cd?

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Do your radio stations also revert back to some random station as well after you have been listening to another source such as cd or ipod?

I can have mine set to Radio 1 and then for some reason it reverts back to BBC Radio Stoke or similar. Not sure if this is because it has recevied a traffic report from Radio Stoke whilst I had been listening to a cd?

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Can't say I've noticed that happening, not something to do with the traffic report option on the nav map screen is it? which I've turned of so I can see the Night mode screen
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      01-08-2010, 08:55 AM   #10
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Do your radio stations also revert back to some random station as well after you have been listening to another source such as cd or ipod?

I can have mine set to Radio 1 and then for some reason it reverts back to BBC Radio Stoke or similar. Not sure if this is because it has recevied a traffic report from Radio Stoke whilst I had been listening to a cd?

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Do you use both keys?

I used to wonder why my settings were all different sometimes, but things like the radio presets are stored on the key automatically.
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      01-08-2010, 08:56 AM   #11
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Can't say I've noticed that happening, not something to do with the traffic report option on the nav map screen is it? which I've turned of so I can see the Night mode screen
Are you talking about the 'traffic info map' setting which puts the system into grayscale and displays traffic issues in a slightly different format.

Just wondering if their is another traffic report option I'm missing.
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      01-08-2010, 09:45 AM   #12
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Yes this is it. If I have Radio 1 on and go to the 'traffic info' symbol on the map (Triangle with exclamation mark inside) it says "Downloading Traffic Information" for a minute or so then "No Traffic Information Available".

If I do the same thing with Classic FM on it works fine and all the traffic warnings appear in the list and on the map.

When I switch back to Radio 1, the warnings are still there, but they don't appear to update.

I also seem to be missing traffic announcements from other stations, but have 'TP' switched on.
Mine varies, some days there is no traffic info, some days it's there. I never tried classic FM as I just use R2 or R4 DAB. I do have 'regional' selected though.

It always works when you are on a nav journey, but when simply viewing the map it varies, even on the same route everyday.

The dealer said the usual thing - err book it in for an update.
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      01-08-2010, 10:22 AM   #13
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Are you talking about the 'traffic info map' setting which puts the system into grayscale and displays traffic issues in a slightly different format.

Just wondering if their is another traffic report option I'm missing.

The very same, I wondered if the two were connected
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I'll test this tonight for you mate in the M3 as I normally only have CD or DAB on and I get traffic reports all the time.

The way it works in my 5 series (and previous BMWs) is that the car has two tuners, it uses one for Traffic updates and one for the station you want to listen too. This is called TMC. However on the Z4 it only has one tuner you lose it the minute you listen to anything other than Classic (they broadcast the TMC).

If you car changes channel automatically then its because you have TP enabled and I recommend turning it off

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The very same, I wondered if the two were connected
The traffic map just seems to be a hot and cold diagram of traffic problems. I found it useless and turned it off. It gets the data from the same TMC source. i.e. Classic FM.

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The traffic map just seems to be a hot and cold diagram of traffic problems. I found it useless and turned it off. It gets the data from the same TMC source. i.e. Classic FM.

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Mines off also, I prefer the night screen option instead, still get traffic alerts (little triangles) in the nav maps though. which is nice.
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I'll test this tonight for you mate in the M3 as I normally only have CD or DAB on and I get traffic reports all the time.

The way it works in my 5 series (and previous BMWs) is that the car has two tuners, it uses one for Traffic updates and one for the station you want to listen too. This is called TMC. However on the Z4 it only has one tuner you lose it the minute you listen to anything other than Classic (they broadcast the TMC).

If you car changes channel automatically then its because you have TP enabled and I recommend turning it off

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This is my concern. My 330i definitely had 2 tuners and worked. I'm going to be pissed off if I find that my new car with upgraded shit hot satnav has only 1 tuner, so will only work if I listen to classic bloody fm.
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Are you talking about the 'traffic info map' setting which puts the system into grayscale and displays traffic issues in a slightly different format.

Just wondering if their is another traffic report option I'm missing.
NFS - the 'traffic info map' never works for me - shite i'd say, don't quite get the point of it.

The regular nav map (day or night view) should display all the TMC jam / delay symbols as did the previous nav system we both had in our 330i's.

Your LCI does have 2 tuners. Make sure you have all the right filter options set in the traffic info options. Mine had none of the options ticked so it was 100% filtered - i.e. displayed nothing.
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NFS - the 'traffic info map' never works for me - shite i'd say, don't quite get the point of it.

The regular nav map (day or night view) should display all the TMC jam / delay symbols as did the previous nav system we both had in our 330i's.

Your LCI does have 2 tuners. Make sure you have all the right filter options set in the traffic info options. Mine had none of the options ticked so it was 100% filtered - i.e. displayed nothing.
Everything is ticked on the filters.

Are you certain that your car still receives info if you are tuned to Radio 4?

The only traffic controls I've found are:

1. You can select TP on the Radio Menu
2. You can switch traffic info 'on' or 'off' on the Navigation Options Menu
3. You can enable or disable the greyscale 'traffic info map' on the Map Settings Menu

The info is received and displayed on the map with triangles etc when I'm tuned to Classic FM, but on Radio 1 or 4 .... I get nothing !!!!

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This is my concern. I'm going to be pissed off if I find that my new car with upgraded shit hot satnav has only 1 tuner, so will only work if I listen to classic bloody fm.
...maybe another LCI costcut
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...maybe another LCI costcut
I really hope not. I've only just come to terms with the sun visors which seem to have been made out of melted down action men.
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Everything is ticked on the filters.

Are you certain that your car still receives info if you are tuned to Radio 4?

Yes it does, I only ever listen to R2 or R4 DAB, I never use FM.

But when my car was new (Feb09) I couldn't receive any traffic info despite playing with all the settings, after 3 weeks I went to the dealers about some other issue and whilst the service guy was in the car with me I went to show him the lack of traffic info - and as if by magic there it was!

He said it comes and goes for some reason, and he's right, its still a bit temperamental.

But NFS, yours is new so they haven't fixed it yet obviously.

The car must have 2 tuners, the NAV would be useless without the dedicated TMC tuner.

Does it work if you have a CD on for example?
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