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      01-12-2010, 04:04 PM   #1
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BMW Class Action Filed in California

A class action was filed in California addressing the "lag" and BMWs attempts to fix it with software updates along with defective fuel pump and defective wastegate system and those problems as well.

Even though it is in California the article says that all owners/lessees in the United States are Class members. This is a Nationwide Class.
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who ever wrote that obviously has no idea about cars.

so called ECU

waste gas mechanisms

phenomenan known as turbo lag


LOL


sad but true about what its addressing though
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and not a lot sbout spelling either
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i'd rather there a be a lawsuit to fix the damn fuel pump.
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Original post has been updated.
This suit includes defective fuel pump and defective wastegate systems and those problems too.
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Suing a manufacture for producing a turbo car that has turbo lag? Wow.... USA FAIL
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Suing a manufacture for producing a turbo car that has turbo lag? Wow.... USA FAIL
Yeah, I guess false advertisement should be legal. Boasting a car that has no turbo lag so people will buy it of course....hummmmm. A car that does not meet vendor spec, but can accelerate from 0-60 in 8 secs. Not too mention the other issues added in the lawsuit. My question is why did it take so long...oh well.

Looks like Arkansas is doing the exact same thing:


http://www.scribd.com/doc/17233560/Bmw-Law-Suit-Hpfp

It was just a matter of time and screwing over the customers. There goes the resale value..every state is going to jump on this.
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It's just some JO attorney that wants BMW to buy back his car because he's had a HPFP done.

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Shortly after the software update, consumers began to complain of engine problems, specifically "loss of power in the lower RPM [revelations per minute] range, decreased fuel efficiency, and most notably, turbo acceleration lag."
quote taken from the end of the article... what does he mean by revelations? what a sucker
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where's washington?
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lmao revelations
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It will be interesting to see where this leads. When will they be certifying the class?
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If it goes anywhere, it will take years and wind up the same way all the rest of these class actions do: a couple million for the lawyers and a free HPFP or $100 discount off your next BMW for everyone in the class.

These things are a joke on consumers -- they only make money for the law firms that file the suit.
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it is true.. these lawsuits won't do anything. The only winners coming out of all this are the lawyers. The people will get vouchers for stupid little things.

The ONLY way to solve this problem, especially the HPFP, is for many people to suddenly lose power and then get killed on the freeway because the engine died....
then BMW will be FORCED to spend millions on R&D'ing the problem.

Oh wait, that solution is already here... ladies and gentlemen.. the N55 twin-scroll turbo engine.
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Suing a manufacture for producing a turbo car that has turbo lag? Wow.... USA FAIL
What is FAIL about wanting what you were sold? I think that BMW has handled the HPFP and the wastegate issues very poorly. Modifying software, that induces lag, to make a noise go away, is ridiculous. FIX IT.
I haven't had a HPFP issue yet (key word, unfortunately), and I don't want a warranty for an issue, that is most likely going to happen at a very inopportune time.
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Yeah and the person who wrote is was not from the attorneys office so dont worry about that.
Meh, that is a terrible writeup, unfocused and just wrong... I would be worried putting my name with something that off base.
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For questions like when they will be certifying the class you would want to call them or email them directly since they are the ones who would know.

As far as "It's just some JO attorney that wants BMW to buy back his car because he's had a HPFP done." I can assure you I never went to law school(even though my mother would have loved it) and there is a lot more to it than someone who got a HPFP replaced. Do you know there are people who have gone through 4 or 5 HPFP (and I dont think they were all attorneys).
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turbo lag is dangerous ? LOL - only a lawyer would come up with that

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Turbo lag may not be the danger. It may have to do with fuel pump failure when you are at a traffic light waiting to make a left turn across a busy intersection. You hit the gas to make your turn and you get limp mode, or even worse, total failure. Sitting across the lanes of oncoming traffic, nothing dangerous about that.
Didnt even have to make that one up, it has happened to people on this forum.
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I actually went and read the write up this time. It is horrible. I think they could get away with a fuel pump law suit but all that crap? I think its just frivolous and ridiculous. Its some OC lawyer having a hissy fit. Not even a good one at that.
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"I actually went and read the write up this time."

Wow, so what you are saying is your earlier comment

"Suing a manufacture for producing a turbo car that has turbo lag? Wow.... USA FAIL"

was made without even reading the write up that is being discussed. A lot of people might call that..........FAIL

Why do people feel the need to comment and make negative statements about a problem and decide that other are exagerating just because they may not have it. If you do not have the problems, be thankful and enjoy your car, but please don't tell me or someone else that may have the problems that they are wrong or dont know what they are talking about(BMW tried that) or we are trying to make a quick buck. You dont have it, so you have not experienced it and therefore really do not know how bad it may be. Therefore, you can not speak from experience and really are not qualified to pass judgement on those that are dealing with a car that is not what they paid for and want to do something about it.

Why begrudge someone that is just trying to get therir car back to the way it was when they bought it?
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Suing a manufacture for producing a turbo car that has turbo lag? Wow.... USA FAIL
I bought my car after test driving it because I liked the way it drove (March 07). A year later my car went in for the HPFP recall. New software was loaded that COMPLETELY changed the way my car accelerated. Would I have bought the car originally if it drove that way? They sold me one thing, then gave me another. And BMW has made no effort (other then giving me the typical "what lag" response) to address it.

So I'll be contacting the attorneys also.
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