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      01-27-2010, 11:27 PM   #1
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How fast do you go through METH?

Hey guys,

I have had my Coolingmist kit with CMGS controller for about 2 weeks now and loving every moment. The car runs great and really loves the Meth.

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How fast should I expect to use the water/meth?

I've had it on for about two weeks and have used only about 1/5 of the 1.5 gallon tank. I don't get into boost very often but have done quite a few WOT runs to see what it can do. My CMGS controller shows flow when i hit 7lbs and is flowing 100% by 12lbs. I feel it working but I guess I'm a little concerned because the tank is staying full! I know it's not a bad thing to have and I should be happy I'm not refilling my meth tank every few days, however i went through a full tank of gas and again only about 1/5 of the water/meth.

Is this normal? I used the smaller spray nossel that was provided with the kit.

thanks in advance!
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I will go through about a gallon every 2-3 days. If racing around, I go through that much in one day.
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I will go through about a gallon every 2-3 days. If racing around, I go through that much in one day.
Which is what i figured based on reading different threads.

My kit is setup with all the recommend settings and is showing flow on my controller....what could be the problem?
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Which is what i figured based on reading different threads.

My kit is setup with all the recommend settings and is showing flow on my controller....what could be the problem?

I have no controller, so when it turns on its full speed, full flow, even at lower boost levels. So you probably control your usage more efficiently. However, my friend has the same setup as me, and he easily goes a week without refilling. So obviously driving habits come into play also..
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I have no controller, so when it turns on its full speed, full flow, even at lower boost levels. So you probably control your usage more efficiently. However, my friend has the same setup as me, and he easily goes a week without refilling. So obviously driving habits come into play also..

Haha sounds like you really like to enjoy your meth

Anybody want to chime in with some Coolingmist and CMGS advice?
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I will go through about a gallon every 2-3 days. If racing around, I go through that much in one day.
holy shit dude, i go through a gallon per month daily driving, when racing its a different story, similar to your first quote, of a gallon for 3 days of track time.

do you just always punch it around town lol?
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So it sounds like mine is pretty normal? I don't drive much during the week. To and from work for the most part. Only 4 miles each way.
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You can calculate it based on your nozzle and pressure. I flow approx 670 ml/min at full injection. That means I flow a gallon every 5 minutes and 40 seconds or so. So at my flow level, I can have full injection on a 2.5 gallon tank for a little over 14 minutes.
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I will go through about a gallon every 2-3 days. If racing around, I go through that much in one day.
That just scares me to think someone goes through that much meth in daily driving, especially given the amount of power a tuned n54 on meth puts to the ground.
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Great question.........tks for askin. another where do you guys by the meth.
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That just scares me to think someone goes through that much meth in daily driving, especially given the amount of power a tuned n54 on meth puts to the ground.
Hotrod is an exception to the rule...Just about every opportunity he goes WOT!! lol
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Well mine is set pretty low too (about 7psi), and its pretty hard not to exceed 7psi in any moderate type of acceleration. Besides, I enjoy feeling the acceleration that pulls you back into seat every chance I get.
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Well mine is set pretty low too (about 7psi), and its pretty hard not to exceed 7psi in any moderate type of acceleration. Besides, I enjoy feeling the acceleration that pulls you back into seat every chance I get.
Your just a torque junky my friend
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I will go through about a gallon every 2-3 days. If racing around, I go through that much in one day.
Funny I was thinking about making a thread about this because I've been using meth for about 4 days and I already used 3 galllons mixed with distilled water, so I know what hotrod is talking about.....
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Funny I was thinking about making a thread about this because I've been using meth for about 4 days and I already used 3 galllons mixed with distilled water, so I know what hotrod is talking about.....
I feel unless you are going WOT there is really no need for meth to even kick on at 6 psi...Some people use it because of just saying they have meth kicking in, but in reality using meth at 6-7 psi is really just plain wasting it....I turn my system on only when I know I want to go WOT and thats from the start to max psi of 15.5
Just because you have the meth system installed, doesn't mean that it is needed at all times is what I am trying to say..
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I feel unless you are going WOT there is really no need for meth to even kick on at 6 psi...Some people use it because of just saying they have meth kicking in, but in reality using meth at 6-7 psi is really just plain wasting it....I turn my system on only when I know I want to go WOT and thats from the start to max psi of 15.5
Just because you have the meth system installed, doesn't mean that it is needed at all times is what I am trying to say..
I have it turned on at 4 psi but it's mainly because of cleaning purposes.
When i'm on the freeway and I accelerate enough to hit 4 psi and I see the green light go on, I'm happy that I'm doing my engine justice.
That's another reason to have it come on earlier.
Having said this, I add a gallon once a week.
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I feel unless you are going WOT there is really no need for meth to even kick on at 6 psi...Some people use it because of just saying they have meth kicking in, but in reality using meth at 6-7 psi is really just plain wasting it....I turn my system on only when I know I want to go WOT and thats from the start to max psi of 15.5
Just because you have the meth system installed, doesn't mean that it is needed at all times is what I am trying to say..
The IAT cooling will help you at any boost pressure. The other reason to make it turn on at lower boost is because they boost rises so fast on this car that it can make sure you have fluid in the engine when you want. Each should test their start point to meet their needs.
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daily and spirited drving.

1.5 Gallons / 500 -750 Miles

Turned on around 7 PSI.

Running an M9 nozzle. 80/20 Meth/water.

If you have some run ins, with several back to back runs you can eat up a good 1/4 tank easy in one sitting.

When I daily drive, I never boost, especially not near 7 PSI. I like my MPG too.

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I feel unless you are going WOT there is really no need for meth to even kick on at 6 psi...Some people use it because of just saying they have meth kicking in, but in reality using meth at 6-7 psi is really just plain wasting it....I turn my system on only when I know I want to go WOT and thats from the start to max psi of 15.5
Just because you have the meth system installed, doesn't mean that it is needed at all times is what I am trying to say..
I drive like a chicken with its head cut-off everywhere I go, I drive my car like its meant to, so to me its very useful and yes if I have meth, Im going to use it, thats why I got it.

and yes I stick my head out the window and yell MY METH IS KICKING YOOO......
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Hmmm Maybe I just drive like a Grandma most of the time!

I rarely get into boost driving to work so I guess that explains why I'm not using very much meth. I just want to make sure I don't have a clog or it's not spraying correctly being that I have my jb3 to map7 and only 91 in the tank. Car feels great though. No knock or flat spots. The car really loves the meth and higher map!
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You can calculate it based on your nozzle and pressure. I flow approx 670 ml/min at full injection. That means I flow a gallon every 5 minutes and 40 seconds or so. So at my flow level, I can have full injection on a 2.5 gallon tank for a little over 14 minutes.
FMI,

I plan to use a nozzle (actually dual nozzle m7, m3) that flow's 10 gallons per hour so that works out to about 630ml/minute; with a 2.5 gallon tank I can spray for 15 minutes straight!

OP,

It all depends on your driving habit's and how far/how much you drive to determine how long your Meth will last. In your case not much with a 4 mile commute. You could probably do with a 4 quart tank and be fine.

But for others, like me in Houston I can drive 40 minutes one way to get to where I am going. And I like to get into boost so I will use more Meth. That is why I opted for a 2.5 gallon tank. 15 minutes of straight Methanol injecting bliss.

Plus I am getting a basic kit so I don't want to have to worry about running dry during a run; if the racetrack is an hour away I don't want to worry about having to fill the tank.

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