engine light is on and service engine is on

nikem4 · 02-11-2010, 10:47 PM

hi all,
i am running on 11.2 beta map and Rev1 V3, just wondering why my engine malfunction sign would appear if the car was turned on and idle for about 3-5 minutes. also, the malfunction sigh would go away if I restart the car, however, after several warning, it leaves a service engine soon on the dash board.

do i need to clear the code before i go to dealership? or can i take the unit out and pretend i dont know anything?

i am running on stage 1 map and do not have any mod so far.
any help is appreciated.
thanks

Bada$$ · 02-11-2010, 11:07 PM

whats the codes its throwing? a usual suspect @ idle is misfires. Usually caused by bad plugs/coils/injectors.. Since its at idle i don't suspect the tune, but its possible as PROcede tunes have been known to cause misfires on several customer cars. But again, Its not likely given the limited amount of info your providing us

nikem4 · 02-11-2010, 11:12 PM

thanks.
my question now, should i clear the code or can i take out the unit and pretend it was never there.

Bada$$ · 02-11-2010, 11:22 PM

your still not telling us what code it is..

nikem4 · 02-11-2010, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bada$$

your still not telling us what code it is..

opps, i dont have a code reader, all i can tell is the service engine sign is on now

02themax · 02-12-2010, 12:42 AM

Take tune out of car
clear codes
take to dealer

No one can help you if you dont even know what codes are stored and your running a tune. I'm willing to bet it's tune related.

nikem4 · 02-12-2010, 12:47 AM

ok, i will have a OBO reader to read the code tomorrow. if i take the car to the dealer tomorrow, would they find out and void my warranty?

02themax · 02-12-2010, 12:49 AM

That's what I'd be worried about, maybe someone else can chime in?

Bimmer This · 02-12-2010, 01:23 AM

definitely clear your codes before taking to in.

nikem4 · 02-12-2010, 01:29 AM

only BT can do it or any obo reader can do?

Nutballa · 02-12-2010, 01:37 AM

I recommend buying a BT cable for any type of modification. #1 thing to get before you start, or in the process of tuning. We can't confirm the issue you have unless we see codes...I'm not sure if obo reader can clear codes. anyone know?

Hunter399 · 02-12-2010, 01:39 AM

You need to scan the car, it could me a million things.

Posting threads like this without any information on codes is a waste of time.

nikem4 · 02-12-2010, 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hunter399

You need to scan the car, it could me a million things.

Posting threads like this without any information on codes is a waste of time.

look, i dont know what i dont know. so bear with me. will scan the car and update the codes tomorrow.

nikem4 · 02-12-2010, 03:14 AM

oh yeah, do you guys ever take the JB or Procede or whatever out of the ECU box before you go to the dealer? would they ever open the box to check or simply do ECU scan?

Dr_Dirt · 02-12-2010, 04:26 AM

Always remove all tuning hw beforehand.

nikem4 · 02-17-2010, 10:44 PM

ok, just got the code checked by a OBD reader, its P0303 and P0301, cylinder 1 & 3 misfire. what i noticed today was that the car has really rough idle, the rpm meter jump almost .3 rpm. and after 5 seconds, check engine light come on again.

please advise.
thanks

midlife · 02-18-2010, 12:06 AM

The best and most simple thing to do is:
1/ remove the proceed
2/ CLEAR the code
3/ run stock for a few days - if car runs funny - bring it to the dealer.
If the car runs fine without the proceed - your problem was tune related.

if tune related - It could have been a bad tune install, or a problem with the tune itself.
If your problem was during idle - my GUESS is it was a bad tune install.

Hope this helps. Btw u should by a BT scanner / code clearer for peace of mind.

.

nikem4 · 02-23-2010, 02:29 AM

thanks midlife. just did exactly what you told me. cant wait for the BT tool.

enrita · 02-23-2010, 03:10 AM

how long have you had the plugs on? I would just change them and see how the car runs. No need to take it to the dealer for this.

nikem4 · 02-24-2010, 08:05 PM

here is what i read from the BT scan tool, can anyone explain this to me please?

Short Test
MSD80/MSD81 Engine module for N54

Current Fault Codes

No Faults Found

Electronic fuel pump (EKP)

Current Fault Codes

No Faults Found

Gearbox control unit

Current Fault Codes

No Faults Found

Gear lever (GWS)

Current Fault Codes

No Faults Found

Car Access System 3

Current Fault Codes

A10A:
EWS4 timing challenge/response error
Error will not cause a warning light
Error is not currently present
Test conditions have been completed
Signal or value below threshold

A0B4:
Fault engine start starter
Error will not cause a warning light
Error is not currently present
Test conditions have been completed

A0B3:
Error control starter clamp 50
Error will not cause a warning light
Error is not currently present
Test conditions have been completed

A0B1:
SG input P N
Error will not cause a warning light
Error is not currently present
Test conditions have been completed
Short circuit or signal interruption

Electronic power steering

Current Fault Codes

No Faults Found

Active cruise control for E65

Current Fault Codes

No Faults Found

Active front steering for E90

Current Fault Codes

No Faults Found

Dynamic stability control DXC8 Plus - E90

Current Fault Codes

No Faults Found

Tire pressure control module

Current Fault Codes

No Faults Found

Central information display

Current Fault Codes

00A4:

Error will not cause a warning light
Error is currently present
Test conditions have been completed
Timeout

00A4:

Error will not cause a warning light
Error is currently present
Test conditions have been completed
Timeout

Central control unit (CON)

Current Fault Codes

No Faults Found

Head-up-display (HUD)

Current Fault Codes

No Faults Found

Instrument cluster PL2 E8x and E9x

Current Fault Codes

A554:
Alive telephone
Error will not cause a warning light
Error is not currently present
Test conditions have been completed

Business Radio / User interface (CIC / CCC-BO / M-ASK-BO / RAD2-BO / RAD)

Current Fault Codes

No Faults Found

Professional Radio / User interface (CIC / CCC-BO / M-ASK-BO / RAD2-BO / RAD)

Current Fault Codes

No Faults Found

MOST / CAN gateway CD73/MD73

Current Fault Codes

No Faults Found

Telematic control module

Current Fault Codes

No Faults Found

Trailer module

Current Fault Codes

No Faults Found

Footwell module (FRM)for vehicles up to 09/2006

Current Fault Codes

No Faults Found

Footwell module (FRM)for vehicles after 09/2006

Current Fault Codes

No Faults Found

Rain and light sensor

Current Fault Codes

No Faults Found

Heating and Air conditioning (IHR/IHKA) control unit

Current Fault Codes

No Faults Found

Junction box

Current Fault Codes

No Faults Found

Roof function control center

Current Fault Codes

No Faults Found

Airbags

Current Fault Codes

No Faults Found

Park distance control

Current Fault Codes

No Faults Found

Seat module - driver (SMFA)

Current Fault Codes

No Faults Found

Longitudinal dynamic management

Current Fault Codes

No Faults Found

Transmission distribution module

Current Fault Codes

No Faults Found

Convertible top module E93

Current Fault Codes

No Faults Found

nikem4 · 02-24-2010, 08:15 PM

after i tried to clear the code in all modules, those two still persist.

00A4:

Error will not cause a warning light
Error is currently present
Test conditions have been completed
Timeout

00A4:

Error will not cause a warning light
Error is currently present
Test conditions have been completed
Timeout

i2iSTUDIOS · 02-24-2010, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikem4

after i tried to clear the code in all modules, those two still persist.

00A4:

Error will not cause a warning light
Error is currently present
Test conditions have been completed
Timeout

00A4:

Error will not cause a warning light
Error is currently present
Test conditions have been completed
Timeout

I have those codes too, i don't worry about it. The other codes though, you have some issues, better take the tune out and see if it stays away.

02-11-2010, 10:47 PM	#1
nikem4 Private First Class 11 Rep 176 Posts Drives: 2007 E92 335i Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: East Lansing, Michigan iTrader: (2)	engine light is on and service engine is on hi all, i am running on 11.2 beta map and Rev1 V3, just wondering why my engine malfunction sign would appear if the car was turned on and idle for about 3-5 minutes. also, the malfunction sigh would go away if I restart the car, however, after several warning, it leaves a service engine soon on the dash board. do i need to clear the code before i go to dealership? or can i take the unit out and pretend i dont know anything? i am running on stage 1 map and do not have any mod so far. any help is appreciated. thanks __________________ No and .
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Bada$$ Banned 1 Rep 33 Posts Drives: 335xi Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: md iTrader: (0)	whats the codes its throwing? a usual suspect @ idle is misfires. Usually caused by bad plugs/coils/injectors.. Since its at idle i don't suspect the tune, but its possible as PROcede tunes have been known to cause misfires on several customer cars. But again, Its not likely given the limited amount of info your providing us
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nikem4 Private First Class 11 Rep 176 Posts Drives: 2007 E92 335i Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: East Lansing, Michigan iTrader: (2)	thanks. my question now, should i clear the code or can i take out the unit and pretend it was never there. __________________ No and .
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Bada$$ Banned 1 Rep 33 Posts Drives: 335xi Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: md iTrader: (0)	your still not telling us what code it is..
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02themax Captain 28 Rep 946 Posts Drives: E90 335i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Calgary, AB iTrader: (6)	Take tune out of car clear codes take to dealer No one can help you if you dont even know what codes are stored and your running a tune. I'm willing to bet it's tune related. __________________ E90 335i Sport Package - Logic 7 Sound w/ipod - Bluetooth - Comfort Access - PDC - 19" M3 Reps 275/30 235/35 - Blacklines - 10mil spacers rear, 5mil spacers front - BMW Alarm
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nikem4 Private First Class 11 Rep 176 Posts Drives: 2007 E92 335i Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: East Lansing, Michigan iTrader: (2)	ok, i will have a OBO reader to read the code tomorrow. if i take the car to the dealer tomorrow, would they find out and void my warranty? __________________ No and .
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nikem4 Private First Class 11 Rep 176 Posts Drives: 2007 E92 335i Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: East Lansing, Michigan iTrader: (2)	oh yeah, do you guys ever take the JB or Procede or whatever out of the ECU box before you go to the dealer? would they ever open the box to check or simply do ECU scan? __________________ No and .
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nikem4 Private First Class 11 Rep 176 Posts Drives: 2007 E92 335i Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: East Lansing, Michigan iTrader: (2)	ok, just got the code checked by a OBD reader, its P0303 and P0301, cylinder 1 & 3 misfire. what i noticed today was that the car has really rough idle, the rpm meter jump almost .3 rpm. and after 5 seconds, check engine light come on again. please advise. thanks __________________ No and .
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02-18-2010, 12:06 AM	#17
midlife ocasionally in crisis 57 Rep 2,358 Posts Drives: '08 335i cabrio Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: .......... iTrader: (0)	The best and most simple thing to do is: 1/ remove the proceed 2/ CLEAR the code 3/ run stock for a few days - if car runs funny - bring it to the dealer. If the car runs fine without the proceed - your problem was tune related. if tune related - It could have been a bad tune install, or a problem with the tune itself. If your problem was during idle - my GUESS is it was a bad tune install. Hope this helps. Btw u should by a BT scanner / code clearer for peace of mind. . __________________ If your car isn't scary - it's just not fast enough ! RPI IC / UR catless DPs / JB3 2.0 beta / UR CAI / Quaife LSD / Snow Methanol Injection / VK oil cooler upgrade / Forge DVs / M3 rear sway / Riss catch can / Paddle shifting 6AT / M Sport steering wheel / Logic 7 / Dunlop Direzza Z1 255/235 /
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nikem4 Private First Class 11 Rep 176 Posts Drives: 2007 E92 335i Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: East Lansing, Michigan iTrader: (2)	thanks midlife. just did exactly what you told me. cant wait for the BT tool. __________________ No and .
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nikem4 Private First Class 11 Rep 176 Posts Drives: 2007 E92 335i Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: East Lansing, Michigan iTrader: (2)	here is what i read from the BT scan tool, can anyone explain this to me please? Short Test MSD80/MSD81 Engine module for N54 Current Fault Codes No Faults Found Electronic fuel pump (EKP) Current Fault Codes No Faults Found Gearbox control unit Current Fault Codes No Faults Found Gear lever (GWS) Current Fault Codes No Faults Found Car Access System 3 Current Fault Codes A10A: EWS4 timing challenge/response error Error will not cause a warning light Error is not currently present Test conditions have been completed Signal or value below threshold A0B4: Fault engine start starter Error will not cause a warning light Error is not currently present Test conditions have been completed A0B3: Error control starter clamp 50 Error will not cause a warning light Error is not currently present Test conditions have been completed A0B1: SG input P N Error will not cause a warning light Error is not currently present Test conditions have been completed Short circuit or signal interruption Electronic power steering Current Fault Codes No Faults Found Active cruise control for E65 Current Fault Codes No Faults Found Active front steering for E90 Current Fault Codes No Faults Found Dynamic stability control DXC8 Plus - E90 Current Fault Codes No Faults Found Tire pressure control module Current Fault Codes No Faults Found Central information display Current Fault Codes 00A4: Error will not cause a warning light Error is currently present Test conditions have been completed Timeout 00A4: Error will not cause a warning light Error is currently present Test conditions have been completed Timeout Central control unit (CON) Current Fault Codes No Faults Found Head-up-display (HUD) Current Fault Codes No Faults Found Instrument cluster PL2 E8x and E9x Current Fault Codes A554: Alive telephone Error will not cause a warning light Error is not currently present Test conditions have been completed Business Radio / User interface (CIC / CCC-BO / M-ASK-BO / RAD2-BO / RAD) Current Fault Codes No Faults Found Professional Radio / User interface (CIC / CCC-BO / M-ASK-BO / RAD2-BO / RAD) Current Fault Codes No Faults Found MOST / CAN gateway CD73/MD73 Current Fault Codes No Faults Found Telematic control module Current Fault Codes No Faults Found Trailer module Current Fault Codes No Faults Found Footwell module (FRM)for vehicles up to 09/2006 Current Fault Codes No Faults Found Footwell module (FRM)for vehicles after 09/2006 Current Fault Codes No Faults Found Rain and light sensor Current Fault Codes No Faults Found Heating and Air conditioning (IHR/IHKA) control unit Current Fault Codes No Faults Found Junction box Current Fault Codes No Faults Found Roof function control center Current Fault Codes No Faults Found Airbags Current Fault Codes No Faults Found Park distance control Current Fault Codes No Faults Found Seat module - driver (SMFA) Current Fault Codes No Faults Found Longitudinal dynamic management Current Fault Codes No Faults Found Transmission distribution module Current Fault Codes No Faults Found Convertible top module E93 Current Fault Codes No Faults Found __________________ No and .
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nikem4 Private First Class 11 Rep 176 Posts Drives: 2007 E92 335i Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: East Lansing, Michigan iTrader: (2)	after i tried to clear the code in all modules, those two still persist. 00A4: Error will not cause a warning light Error is currently present Test conditions have been completed Timeout 00A4: Error will not cause a warning light Error is currently present Test conditions have been completed Timeout __________________ No and .
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