[Pseudo Nim]

Hi all,

My car's in the shop for the camshaft ledge replacement, and my software dates to whatever was recent for Jan'09 (10/07 build). Should I ask the dealer to update? Or should I keep as is? I have catless and v3 canbus - so I was reading of some probs with O2 sims, shadow fault codes, etc., on latest engine softwares.

Any thoughts?

-pN

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim

Hi all,

My car's in the shop for the camshaft ledge replacement, and my software dates to whatever was recent for Jan'09 (10/07 build). Should I ask the dealer to update? Or should I keep as is? I have catless and v3 canbus - so I was reading of some probs with O2 sims, shadow fault codes, etc., on latest engine softwares.

Any thoughts?

-pN

I don't think the PROcede V4 CANbus will benefit, it targets absolute values, but the rest of the car will for sure.

[Pseudo Nim]

I'm mostly worried about O2 sims working/not working properly, as I have _finally_ found the proper bloody setting for it (I didn't read the thing that I had to start at 50%, so I started at 100% going down 5% at a time, ha... at 15% now).

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim

I'm mostly worried about O2 sims working/not working properly, as I have _finally_ found the proper bloody setting for it (I didn't read the thing that I had to start at 50%, so I started at 100% going down 5% at a time, ha... at 15% now).

V4 is still beta so I guess the O2 sims will work at some point. However, BMS provides dedicated V3 O2 sims which work ( $80 ) with the new progman's.

[Pseudo Nim]

Originally Posted by e.n335

V4 is still beta so I guess the O2 sims will work at some point. However, BMS provides dedicated V3 O2 sims which work ( $80 ) with the new progman's.

I seem to recall shiv saying at one point that "the o2 sims code is mature, so we aren't touching it". I mean hey.... I got this $900 device that's supposed to do it, why get another one, right

[dzenno]

Originally Posted by e.n335

V4 is still beta so I guess the O2 sims will work at some point. However, BMS provides dedicated V3 O2 sims which work ( $80 ) with the new progman's.

Procede o2 simm works without any issues. You just need to dial in you percentage. Most ppl I talked to ended up with around 20%. Just know one person (jpsimon I think) who's running it at 50%.

I run it at 20%, no issues whatsoever.

[Pseudo Nim]

Originally Posted by dzenno

Procede o2 simm works without any issues. You just need to dial in you percentage. Most ppl I talked to ended up with around 20%. Just know one person (jpsimon I think) who's running it at 50%.

I run it at 20%, no issues whatsoever.

What version is your engine software, any idea?

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by e.n335

V4 is still beta so I guess the O2 sims will work at some point. However, BMS provides dedicated V3 O2 sims which work ( $80 ) with the new progman's.

Uninformed advice as always. There is nothing nonfunctional about our built-in o2 sim function. It hasn't been changed in months and is compatible with all dme software versions. As explained, it just needs to be dialed in to a specific car. Just like any other adjustable o2 sim.

However, there will be a CAN based cat code eliminating feature coming soon. Won't need to mess with any setting. Just turn it on.

Shiv

[Pseudo Nim]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Uninformed advice as always. There is nothing nonfunctional about our built-in o2 sim function. It hasn't been changed in months and is compatible with all dme software versions. As explained, it just needs to be dialed in to a specific car. Just like any other adjustable o2 sim.

However, there will be a CAN based cat code eliminating feature coming soon. Won't need to mess with any setting. Just turn it on.

Shiv

Shiv: this is what I said later in my post (re o2 sim code not changing). So... do I request an update or not, what do you figure? This isn't just related to O2 sims. I mean functionality in general.

You can PM me if you don't want to discuss this on the thread, btw, no worries there, just thought others might have this question.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim

Shiv: this is what I said later in my post (re o2 sim code not changing). So... do I request an update or not, what do you figure? This isn't just related to O2 sims. I mean functionality in general.

You can PM me if you don't want to discuss this on the thread, btw, no worries there, just thought others might have this question.

Go for the update. At worse, you may have to dial in your o2 sim value a little. But that will be a thing of the past within the next 2-3 weeks.

[Pseudo Nim]

Ok, I'll do that.

Btw, shiv .... how is that netbook-compatible Procede software coming along? I neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed one for my car pc!!!!

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim

Ok, I'll do that.

Btw, shiv .... how is that netbook-compatible Procede software coming along? I neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed one for my car pc!!!!

It's coming. The new v4 software will actually be designed on a netbook computer

Shiv

[Gen_E92]

can't wait to test the O2 sim when I install catless DPs in a couple weeks!

Shiv: email sent...need my unit back

[Pseudo Nim]

So finally they did end up upgrading _something_ (my SA wasn't sure _what_, but he said _something_ got "reprogrammed", hah). How do you find out what version they upgraded you to? BT Tool won't tell me AFAIK, and I didn't screenshot the original versions displayed anyway.

[TurboSid]

i believe it'll be on your invoice.

[Pseudo Nim]

Ok, let's hope. If not, I suppose I can hunt down the master tech...

[Glowin]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Go for the update. At worse, you may have to dial in your o2 sim value a little. But that will be a thing of the past within the next 2-3 weeks.

Not to be picky, but is there actually an advantage to having the latest BMW software for the Procede? I think that's what the OP was asking, not whether it does any harm to upgrade the software.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by Glowin

Not to be picky, but is there actually an advantage to having the latest BMW software for the Procede? I think that's what the OP was asking, not whether it does any harm to upgrade the software.

Oh, in that case, no real advantage that I've ever been able to discern if you are running v4. For those running nonCAN tunes (v3 for instance), the newer DME updates will make the car drive a little smoother at partial throttle.

Shiv

[Pseudo Nim]

So the dealer finally did not upgrade me - he told me that there's lag introduced in newer versions, and mine is quite well as it is

Seems I'm running v28.0 on my car. Should I fight to get v36 or whatever's the newest, or not worth it? I suppose the plus is that v28 never threw shadow faults with the Procede with me no matter what maps I used - so maybe better stay where I am.