whats wrong with my motor?!

08EUROE90 · 02-25-2010, 05:17 PM

ok so my car on a cold start will shake, clutch will clatter, pours out white/blue smoke, oil in exhaust tip, and back fires... all this goes away after 5 min and 2 restarts. today it was 40 min and massive amounts of smoke. i replaced all spark plugs, coils, and HPFP. still doing it after all that WTF is going on here????

ideas-
loose O2, but it couldnt be pouring out oil
exhaust leak, once again dont think there would be oil coming out.
BTW car runs strong when it does work / SES always on and flashes on start up

please help with ideas.

Dr_Dirt · 02-25-2010, 06:59 PM

Any mods?

cn555ic · 02-25-2010, 07:04 PM

antifreeze would exhibit this white/bluish smoke your speak of...

dkvby · 02-25-2010, 07:13 PM

I just had 123 cyc injectors replaced, it was shaking on cold start and goes away after few mins with couple restart. Also CEL was on.

JonLerd · 02-25-2010, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cn555ic

antifreeze would exhibit this white/bluish smoke your speak of...

coolant leak is just a white smoke, a BLUE/White smoke is oil being burned. You either have a oil seal leak in the turbo or in the cylinder/heads. I assume it goes away as the components heat up and gets a better seal as the metal starts expanding. Take it to the dealer sounds like a big job possible. How has your oil consumption been? DO this stat before you kill your cats from them soaking up all that oil. replacing the cats will be $$$

nikem4 · 02-25-2010, 11:28 PM

i know for sure the smoke is caused by oil. i learned it the hard way, so, check your oil in every way possible.

klipseracer · 02-25-2010, 11:46 PM

I'm just curious why you would allow your car to sputter, shake and emit strange exhaust fumes for 40+ minutes.

335iheLLraiseR · 02-25-2010, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by klipseracer

I'm just curious why you would allow your car to sputter, shake and emit strange exhaust fumes for 40+ minutes.

OT, nice to have you back.

Malaka1 · 02-25-2010, 11:50 PM

Does the smoke have a "sweet" smell to it?

Sniz · 02-25-2010, 11:51 PM

blown head gasket or blown turbo....my 2 guesses

JayKay335i · 02-26-2010, 12:18 AM

I think I remember somebody mentioning a leaky head gasket not to long ago. Its definitely a possibility. I'd inspect your turbos as well.

klipseracer · 02-26-2010, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 335iheLLraiseR

OT, nice to have you back.

Thanks.

Please disregard my posts that have no value to them. If you are an 08, I would only assume you are still in warranty? I would just take it in.

huyner328 · 02-26-2010, 01:22 AM

Off to the dealership yo!

08EUROE90 · 02-26-2010, 03:55 PM

... warrenty void

the car is at the former GBR racing now performance racing solutions... great guys.
turbo manifold fell off for the last like 2 months, all coils are toast, all O2 sensors are toast, tensioner belt shreded (as soon as i pulled into the shop) and power steering pully is done. leaks lots of oil out of one turbo.... blown? i hope not

GeorgiaTech335coupe · 02-26-2010, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 08EUROE90

... warrenty void

the car is at the former GBR racing now performance racing solutions... great guys.
turbo manifold fell off for the last like 2 months, all coils are toast, all O2 sensors are toast, tensioner belt shreded (as soon as i pulled into the shop) and power steering pully is done. leaks lots of oil out of one turbo.... blown? i hope not

How was your warranty voided?

AMERICUS · 02-26-2010, 04:20 PM

Ouch sounds expensive...very expensive

klipseracer · 02-26-2010, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 08EUROE90

... warrenty void

the car is at the former GBR racing now performance racing solutions... great guys.
turbo manifold fell off for the last like 2 months, all coils are toast, all O2 sensors are toast, tensioner belt shreded (as soon as i pulled into the shop) and power steering pulley is done. leaks lots of oil out of one turbo.... blown? i hope not

If you want a comprehensible response then I suggest you give a little more structure to your sentences. I realize you are a little bit distraught but I can't understand most of what you just said.

So basically you were driving with shredding belts, bad sensors and leaking oil. How many lights were going off on your dashboard? Boy you sound like a smart one.

You are trying to say your car is at Performance Racing Solutions which was formerly known as GBR Racing.

There is no way you drove around with a manifold that 'fell off' for two months. If you did, you are just enforcing my prior statement to negligence by driving it that way. I wouldn't honor your warranty either for such poor treatment of a machine. These are machines, not 'things you use'. They need maintained and taken care of. Let me guess, you are someone who sees the oil light and ignores it?

08EUROE90 · 03-01-2010, 04:19 PM

ok so it was the shop who uninstalled my DPs that made my turbo inlet slide off a little, and the belts shreded because of a bad bump 1 min before i pulled into the shop. so i just ordered a set of turbo just incase i need them. its not going to be over $1,200 from what i can see

klipseracer · 03-01-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 08EUROE90

ok so it was the shop who uninstalled my DPs that made my turbo inlet slide off a little, and the belts shreded because of a bad bump 1 min before i pulled into the shop. so i just ordered a set of turbo just incase i need them. its not going to be over $1,200 from what i can see

I see. Regardless I hope it turns out for you, and make sure you don't hesitate with issues like that. Take it to the dealer asap if you DO/DID have warranty.

08EUROE90 · 03-04-2010, 04:49 PM

the shop it is at is way better than the dealer. i ordered 2 new turbos for $430 shipped! total labor with compression test was $1650 with tax plus turbos so $2080, and i may need a new injector. vinyl wrap will have to wait a couple weeks now

for all out there who beat the shit out of their cars.... dont get your warrenty voided. if you do sell that shit to carmax

WCM3 · 03-04-2010, 05:26 PM

2 turbos for $430..no.

But good luck dude!

jpsimon · 03-04-2010, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by WCM3

2 turbos for $430..no.

But good luck dude!

no?

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08EUROE90 Second Lieutenant 32 Rep 278 Posts Drives: 2013 740li, 2006 650i Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: orlando, florida iTrader: (6) Garage List 2008 335i [0.00]	whats wrong with my motor?! ok so my car on a cold start will shake, clutch will clatter, pours out white/blue smoke, oil in exhaust tip, and back fires... all this goes away after 5 min and 2 restarts. today it was 40 min and massive amounts of smoke. i replaced all spark plugs, coils, and HPFP. still doing it after all that WTF is going on here???? ideas- loose O2, but it couldnt be pouring out oil exhaust leak, once again dont think there would be oil coming out. BTW car runs strong when it does work / SES always on and flashes on start up please help with ideas.
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nikem4 Private First Class 11 Rep 176 Posts Drives: 2007 E92 335i Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: East Lansing, Michigan iTrader: (2)	i know for sure the smoke is caused by oil. i learned it the hard way, so, check your oil in every way possible. __________________ No and .
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klipseracer Banned 228 Rep 3,012 Posts Drives: 2007 E90 335i, 05 E46 330i Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Arizona iTrader: (27) Garage List 2007 335i [0.00] 2005 330i [0.00]	I'm just curious why you would allow your car to sputter, shake and emit strange exhaust fumes for 40+ minutes.
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JayKay335i Banned 198 Rep 5,046 Posts Drives: ///M323 DCT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: North Dakota; its best DUHHHHHH iTrader: (1)	I think I remember somebody mentioning a leaky head gasket not to long ago. Its definitely a possibility. I'd inspect your turbos as well.
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08EUROE90 Second Lieutenant 32 Rep 278 Posts Drives: 2013 740li, 2006 650i Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: orlando, florida iTrader: (6) Garage List 2008 335i [0.00]	... warrenty void the car is at the former GBR racing now performance racing solutions... great guys. turbo manifold fell off for the last like 2 months, all coils are toast, all O2 sensors are toast, tensioner belt shreded (as soon as i pulled into the shop) and power steering pully is done. leaks lots of oil out of one turbo.... blown? i hope not
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08EUROE90 Second Lieutenant 32 Rep 278 Posts Drives: 2013 740li, 2006 650i Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: orlando, florida iTrader: (6) Garage List 2008 335i [0.00]	ok so it was the shop who uninstalled my DPs that made my turbo inlet slide off a little, and the belts shreded because of a bad bump 1 min before i pulled into the shop. so i just ordered a set of turbo just incase i need them. its not going to be over $1,200 from what i can see
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08EUROE90 Second Lieutenant 32 Rep 278 Posts Drives: 2013 740li, 2006 650i Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: orlando, florida iTrader: (6) Garage List 2008 335i [0.00]	the shop it is at is way better than the dealer. i ordered 2 new turbos for $430 shipped! total labor with compression test was $1650 with tax plus turbos so $2080, and i may need a new injector. vinyl wrap will have to wait a couple weeks now for all out there who beat the shit out of their cars.... dont get your warrenty voided. if you do sell that shit to carmax
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