[Andrew@DTUK]

Where do i start?????

Ok the beginning i suppose....

As some of you will or will not know, most tuning boxes connect directly onto the common rail pressure sensor. Like re-maps these differ in price and quality and id like to think that the modules we use (manufactured by DTE Systems) are some of the best out there..

Around 8 months ago i heard about the new 2 Channel systems that Germany were working on and if im honest i was a little dubious. I suppose it was just because it was something new

Around 6 months ago i imported 2 of these 2 channel systems and started optimising the software on these new systems that we christened CRD-T..

These systems connect to the common rail and the turbo pressure sensor giving us even more control over what we do, and if i may be so bold.. take us a step closer to a re-map in a box..

6 months later and im more than happy with the recent results weve seen, and the feedback from customers has all been positive..

In January of this year i noticed on our direct server link to DTE that there was a new system available. I made a phone call and found that this system had been developed by DTE specifically for the new Euro 5 engines, including the new Mercedes Blue Efficiency.

In a nutshell this system connects to the common rail, turbo pressure sensor and crankshaft sensor. Over the last few weeks ive noticed this system was becoming available for more and more vehicles including BMW and Audi/Seat.

Another phone call to Germany resulted in the MD of DTE coming over to us this week to show me how the system works, and how the new programming software is used

So in the last 8 months weve gone from a single channel module, to a 2 channel module, and then the latest 3 channel system.

Over the last 5 years ive been creating my own software for the modules, and im one of the few people outside of DTE Systems that has access to some of the programming options available to us

Anyway, back to this week and the new 3 channel system..

First up was our Seat Leon 2.0 TDI 170PS CR.

Weve recently rolling roaded this vehicle running a 2 channel CRD-T system where we saw 210bhp and 327lbft of torque

One of our guys, helped by Patrick set about installing the new 3 channel system on our Leon. Ill be honest the turbo sensor is bad enough to get to on the transversly mounted VAG 4 cylinder engines as it is, but the crankshaft sensor... OMG..

20 minutes later and the system was on, and Patrick plugged his laptop directly into the Module via our USB programmer...

Ive got to admit we were all gob smacked as this allows us to see everything thats going on inside the engine, the voltage at the various sensors, rpm, boost and a lot more.



We imported the software that we'd developed for the 2 channel module, and then went on our way..

This is what we see just before we load the software onto the laptop before writing this so the module..



In essence this module is able to control upto 7 channels if needed...

The main difference with this module is all to do with rpm, as we now have the ability to refine the files to an even greater degree. This is due to the fact that we can now increase and decrease the power band to wherever the customer wants the power..

Whilst on the road, we (not the consumer) have the ability to revert back to standard at a flick of a key, and again add the tuning...

Its fantastic for us as we can now offer a custom file writing service for customers who expect the very best

We can also use this 3 channel system to demo all 3 systems without the need to swap between the 3 various systems, thus giving the customer the choice as to how far he/she wants to go.

I suppose its a service re-mapping companies offer, i.e an off the shelf re-map, or a custom written file written specifically for their driving style.

Next came my 335d

We removed the CRD-T from my 335d (which recently produced 340bhp and 680nm of torque) and added the new 3 channel system

Again we took the car out, and OMG.... What can i say, the car was so smooth, we then increased the power quite a lot over and above the CRD-T file above 2,000rpm, but then decrease it higher up the rev range keeping it withing safe limits for the DPF

Sub 2,000 revs we cut the file back a little, and it did make the car feel so much more manageable..

My programmer will be here within the week and i intend to have a play with the 335d including trying to make a video.

Once ive got to grips with this system (wont be long) ill be taking the car back to the dyno so i can sit down and see exactly what results we can achieve..

I hope i havent bought you, but as you can probably see im rather excited as its the most technically advanced systems ive ever seen

thanks for reading


Andrew

p.s if anyone fancies trying this system out youre more then welcome to pop up and see us

[willhollin]

Sounds very interesting Andrew.

What exactly do you mean by the safe limits of the DPF?

[Andrew@DTUK]

Originally Posted by willhollin

Sounds very interesting Andrew.

What exactly do you mean by the safe limits of the DPF?

Hi Will,

As cars are driven in a completely different style in Germany, Patrick reduced the amount of extra power we added higher up the rev range when we took my car out onto the road.

As you well know, the cars over there quite often sit on the Autobahns at 100mph+ so the cars are sitting a higher rpm's for longer periods of time.

If youre going to see smoke (on a dpf'less car) its always higher up the rev range when the car is under load, so as a precaution they always trim back the extra power higher up the rev range.

As most of our cars are rarely above 80mph, and if they are its only for short distances and times then this isnt something we usually worry about..

I speak better than i write, so hope ive managed to explain

[willhollin]

Thanks Andrew.

[Andrew@DTUK]

Originally Posted by willhollin

Thanks Andrew.

Youre welcome

I have a 330d customer who's currently running a CRD-T popping up to see me over the next few weeks, so will post his feedback at some point too.

I forgot to mention, that this system is currently available for

AUDI's BMW's. Merc Blue Efficiency, and a few others too..

So you can move it over to other compatible cars if you so with.

[willhollin]

So you can buy one box and then have the software changed to suit?

[Mud]

This sounds good, it seems to moving more in the direction of mapping that I am used to coming from the Jap scene

[Andrew@DTUK]

Originally Posted by willhollin

So you can buy one box and then have the software changed to suit?

Yes mate,

we have around 13 different modules to cover over 2,000 vehicles.

The common rail route only is more flexible as it covers more cars, the CRD-T (2 CHANNEL) and the whatever we call it (3 Channel kit) is less transferable at this moment in time as its only available for a small number of manufacturers...

If a customer added a 3 CHANNEL system to a BMW, they could (at this time) transfer it to any Audi/VW/Porsche or Mercedes that uses the same 3 channel module.

The only cost to the end user would be the new wiring harness as software is free next time around.

[Mud]

So what sort of costs are we talking about then for this 3 channel re-map?

[Andrew@DTUK]

Originally Posted by Mud

So what sort of costs are we talking about then for this 3 channel re-map?

The full rrp on the module is £479.00, but E90post members can save £80.00 on that price, so £399.00 in total for the module and the default software.

We will be charging an extra £99.00 for the whole bespoke file writing service, but again E90Post members wont be charged for this at all. I forgot to mention that we have the facility to add 4 files to the module which customers can select themselves, and dont forget this can be transferred from car to car and has 3 years system warranty

Currently available for the

116d/316d 116PS
118d/318d 143PS
320d/520d 177PS
330d/530d 231PS
330d/530d 245PS
335d/535d 286PS

and the 123d 204PS

Audi 2.0TDI/2.7TDI/3.0TDI
Ford 2.2 TDCI 175PS
Hyundai Santa Fe 2.2 197PS
Kia Sorrento 2.2 197PS
Mercedes Blue Efficiency and Euro 5 vans
Porsche Cayenne
Range Rover 3.6 TDV8
Renault 1.5dci
Seat/Skoda 2.0TDI 140/170PS Common Rail
Toyota 1.4DAD
VW 2.0/3.0TDI Common Rail

[milesr3]

Accepting that you have a much finer degree of control over fuelling and boost, don't these tuning boxes still rely upon increasing the fuel rail pressure in order to increase fuelling though?

AIUI this is generally frowned upon due to the additional load it puts on the fuel pump? Whereas a remap with alter the injector duration to increase fuelling without increasing the fuel pressure.

[Andrew@DTUK]

Originally Posted by milesr3

Accepting that you have a much finer degree of control over fuelling and boost, don't these tuning boxes still rely upon increasing the fuel rail pressure in order to increase fuelling though?

AIUI this is generally frowned upon due to the additional load it puts on the fuel pump? Whereas a remap with alter the injector duration to increase fuelling without increasing the fuel pressure.

Fuel pressure is still increased within a re-map...

Tuning boxes are often slated, as are cheap and cheerful re-maps..

These systems are a lot more advanced and are certainly some of the most advanced systems on the market today..

We sold in excess of 5,000 systems in the UK and beyond in the last 4/5 years, and not had any incidents related to the module.

Our PDI system that we use for Japanese vehicles (a lot cant be re-mapped, so thank goodness for boxes ) connects to all 4 injectors and advances the injector duration..

Choice is a great thing, and this is going the people who choose the verstility of a box even greater control and better options than they had before hand

[Andrew@DTUK]

My New toy landed today... let the fun begin.

[Jay_Jay]

mmmmmm, sounds good.
Looking forward to hear from the 330d owner who's had it done

[cssnms]

Any update on the 3 channel system? I only see the 2 channel system being sold.

[Dziqsek_]

What you think, what kind of gain i can expected in 2008 318d 143bhp ???

[NotNormal]

It'd be interesting to see the difference in my CRD-T (340/510) and this three channel system back to back on the rollers Andrew