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      03-07-2010, 04:36 PM   #1
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ETS FMIC with dataloged IAT's

My setup running full stage 3 with the procede, have a DCI.
Running a ETS intercooler
Did a datalog run of 2-3-4 gears at WOT
outside temp. was: 50 degrees
Starting IAT temp was: 75
at 5800 rpms in 4th gear the IAT was: 105
avg. psi was 15.5
what you think????

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Probably shaved off 50 degrees compared to the stock intercooler.

Time for meth IMO. Your IATs will not cross 85 degrees after that in the same three-gear pull and you will be able to run more advance.

Here is a similar 2-3-4 WOT run spraying meth (70/30 mix) boosting around 15 psi. Stock intercooler, 91 octane.

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is how the ETS performs anygood??
I was thinking maybe switching to the helix....
anybody have datalogs of the helix in action???
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is how the ETS performs anygood??
I was thinking maybe switching to the helix....
anybody have datalogs of the helix in action???
To me Helix and HPF are on the top of my list, but I chose HPF...
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To me Helix and HPF are on the top of my list, but I chose HPF...
they do look good, but I'd like to see datalogs to prove it
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My setup running full stage 3 with the procede, have a DCI.
Running a ETS intercooler
Did a datalog run of 2-3-4 gears at WOT
outside temp. was: 50 degrees
Starting IAT temp was: 75
at 5800 rpms in 4th gear the IAT was: 105
avg. psi was 15.5
what you think????
Is this with only DCI and ETS intercooler???

Are you running catless downpipes
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full stage 3 procede:
DCI, catless downpipes, catless exhaust, ETS FMIC, and forge DV's
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Anybody have Datalogs with the Helix FMIC??
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yes I posted a bunch way back when.....I'll see if I can find them.


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based on your graph vs mine....the Helix unit is doing a far better job.

YOu had a 25 degree advantage in ambient temps and probably lower humidity, we ended up around the same point at the end of our runs.
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My setup running full stage 3 with the procede, have a DCI.
Running a ETS intercooler
Did a datalog run of 2-3-4 gears at WOT
outside temp. was: 50 degrees
Starting IAT temp was: 75
at 5800 rpms in 4th gear the IAT was: 105
avg. psi was 15.5
what you think????

105F at an ambient of 50F is not very good to be honest. With that said, once you add methanol a lot of the intercooler choice becomes considerably less relevant.
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It doesnt seem good, I think im gonna try out the Helix, and see what happens.
thanks
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love my helix!
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It doesnt seem good, I think im gonna try out the Helix, and see what happens.
thanks
I'm currently running a stock intercooler on Stage 1 Procede and my IAT logs start at 70F and peak around 100F by the time I get into 4th gear from a 3rd gear pull.

When I ran my aftermarket VK intercooler last year, IAT's were almost flatline from start to end of pull. (see blue line in graph below).

So yeah......your numbers don't look so good as far as IAT.

On the flipside, your datalog looks great otherwise. Timing curves and boost look really good.

[IMG][/IMG]
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I'm currently running a stock intercooler on Stage 1 Procede and my IAT logs start at 70F and peak around 100F by the time I get into 4th gear from a 3rd gear pull.

When I ran my aftermarket VK intercooler last year, IAT's were almost flatline from start to end of pull. (see blue line in graph below).

So yeah......your numbers don't look so good as far as IAT.

On the flipside, your datalog looks great otherwise. Timing curves and boost look really good.

[IMG][/IMG]
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When I do a 3rd gear only pull it doesn't go up that much.
It's when I do 2-3-4 gear pull the temp goes up
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When I do a 3rd gear only pull it doesn't go up that much.
It's when I do 2-3-4 gear pull the temp goes up
Yes.....that's true not directly comparable to me.

I was only doing 3rd, so I would have less temperature rise than you, but it is a long pull as I am starting at a lower rpm. But even on your graph your temperature rise is over 10F going from 2nd into 3rd.

You are in 50F ambients, while I was in the high 70's ambients, so you had the advantage there.

But I still think you have too much rise for an aftermarket intercooler.

When I did longer multi gear pulls, my IAT's did not rise more than 10F with an aftermarket unit.

Helix seems to be one of the favourites and I think it is a good choice from all the logs I have seen in the past.

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