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      03-16-2010, 11:57 AM   #1
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Question VBOX

Are there different version of these boxes?

How much they cost?

Do you connect to car or are they GPS specific?

Do you need to purchase additional sensors?

VBOX can measure the following parameters:
Velocity
Longitudinal acceleration
Distance
Vertical velocity
Time
Radius of turn
Position
Circuit position
Heading
Track layout
Height
Lap time
Lateral acceleration


Any more measures?


Will a VBOX calculate HP and TQ? If so, any need for a DYNO?
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There is Driftbox and Performancebox. I went with the latter one.

http://www.vboxusa.com/performancedrift/
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Are there different version of these boxes?

How much they cost?

Do you connect to car or are they GPS specific?

Do you need to purchase additional sensors?

VBOX can measure the following parameters:
Velocity
Longitudinal acceleration
Distance
Vertical velocity
Time
Radius of turn
Position
Circuit position
Heading
Track layout
Height
Lap time
Lateral acceleration


Any more measures?


Will a VBOX calculate HP and TQ? If so, any need for a DYNO?
www.vboxusa.com
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      03-16-2010, 12:08 PM   #5
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Checked out the website, but didn't know which one fit the bill for our cars.
I'm looking to get 0-60 times, HP, TQ; things like that.
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You can always look into a Gtech.

Nothing beats a real dyno for HP figures though.
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GTech is $199 and offers:
Horsepower
Torque
60 Ft. Time
1/8th & 1/4 mile
0-60 & 0-100-0mph
RPM & Shiftlights
Handling Gs
Record up to 30 runs
3 precision sensors

Why is the VBOX $499 and doesn't offer HP and Torque?
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GTech is $199 and offers:
Horsepower
Torque
60 Ft. Time
1/8th & 1/4 mile
0-60 & 0-100-0mph
RPM & Shiftlights
Handling Gs
Record up to 30 runs
3 precision sensors

Why is the VBOX $499 and doesn't offer HP and Torque?
I have Gtech. It's useless as filtering of our cars is very good and it can't get the rpm signal. What is more, Gtech doesn't have GPS. This is crucial for accuracy. And you can't measure 60-130, etc. times with Gtech. These devices are uncomparable.

Performancebox offers HP and Torque.
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Vbox should not be compared to Gtech, but for those looking for the 0-60 or 1/4 mile ET and Trap, it does that fairly accurate.

To be the most accurate, you need to pay to play, vbox.

It depends on how serious you need to get.

This whole HP and torque thing is silly, go to a dyno for $75. I dont care which you buy they will all be "estimates".
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Cool.
So you're saying that the Performancebox($499) offers more accurate #'s than the Gtech($199) and offers HP & Torque. I just hate spending $90 every time I do a change to the car to measure those numbers.
What other features does the PerformanceBox offers than the the Gtech?

Which Vbox does Mr. 5 have?
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Cool.
What other features does the PerformanceBox offers than the the Gtech?
www.gtechpro.com
www.vboxusa.com
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Cool.
So you're saying that the Performancebox($499) offers more accurate #'s than the Gtech($199) and offers HP & Torque. I just hate spending $90 every time I do a change to the car to measure those numbers.
What other features does the PerformanceBox offers than the the Gtech?

Which Vbox does Mr. 5 have?
I would think that acceleration times would be a much more beneficial reflection of whether a mod or adjustment increased your car's power than a dyno graph. Everyone on this board that shows their vbox time is actually using the performance box, I believe.
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I would think that acceleration times would be a much more beneficial reflection of whether a mod or adjustment increased your car's power than a dyno graph. Everyone on this board that shows their vbox time is actually using the performance box, I believe.
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dont worry about at a box to tell you HP and TQ. Use the acceleration times for that, MUCH more accurate.
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So is this the one people are using? This one is $499 on the website.
Can I data-log with this as well?


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So is this the one people are using? This one is $499 on the website. Can I data-log with this as well?
That's the one. It uses satellites for precision. I have one and it is pretty much dead accurate, verified by me at multiple tracks. It is within .1 and 1mph of the track lights. I was expounding my et and trap to the dude at the ticket booth before he handed me my timeslips.
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Thanks. I guess this is the one for me to buy. I was looking at the GTech since is cheaper ($299) with software for data-logging, but you guys convince me that the VBOX is a much better product. Is $499 + shipping the best price to pay online or should I just buy it on eBay VBOX for $449?
You guys have any other site for lest price?
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$449.00 is the cheapest I have found..
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I have a vbox and don't know how I ever lived without it
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Will a VBOX calculate HP and TQ? If so, any need for a DYNO?
The VBOX does not calculate power curves, just the peak power. The logg files can be used though to calculate and e.g. present power vs. speed or RPM.

This is a 3.1 second 100-150 km/h 3rd gear pull I did with the Performancebox and used logged data to present power vs. RPM in MS Excel.
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Will a VBOX calculate HP and TQ? If so, any need for a DYNO?
I made and shared a spreadsheet that lets you use the acceleration data, weight, Cd, & frontal area to plot fairly accurate dynos. They just tend to read almost 10% lower than dynojet so it's not an ego booster...

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=736883

vbox:


dynojet:



Vbox:



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The download website says it no longer has the file?
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