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      11-14-2006, 05:33 PM   #1
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SKID,BROKESIDES with handbrake!!!

I would like to know how can i use my handbrake to make some brokesides with my 328i 2007?
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      11-14-2006, 05:35 PM   #2
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I know what brokebacks are, but what are brokesides?
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LOL are you some punk, who wants to do these tricks because of recent videos advocating it?..thats right, jummp on the bandwagon! its cool now to drive like that and make burnouts! DO IT and learn it because everyone thinks its cool now!

When the next fashionable thing comes along, drop your things and hop on that bandwagon again.........

WTF is a brokeside?? stop using slang. if you want any sort of respect from me, then have the decency to properly call it an E-brake Turn or E-Brake Slide OR even just a 180 or 90 slide....i hope thats what your reffering to...

And if you dont know how to do it, dont learn now, not on your car, but its your call...
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I would like to know how can i use my handbrake to make some brokesides with my 328i 2007?

try pulling it when you're driving
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      11-14-2006, 08:11 PM   #6
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try pulling it when you're driving
It wont engage if the car is moving over a certain MPH.
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It wont engage if the car is moving over a certain MPH.
r u sure about that?? this must just be in our E90s cuase my buddys hondas evos and this chicks focus will pull at over 60mph... yes ive seen it done!!
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r u sure about that?? this must just be in our E90s cuase my buddys hondas evos and this chicks focus will pull at over 60mph... yes ive seen it done!!
I was just referring to our e90. Other cars you can do it, I think they are doing it as a new safety feature in the higher end cars.
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the ebrake is a cable pull device, I have no idea how they'd engineer something in there that would prevent it from working,


unless some pin prevented you from pulling the handle at all...
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instead of going up to the mountains and do the nasty, he's doing it sideways with his 'life-long friend' on the side of the road
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It wont engage if the car is moving over a certain MPH.
this is correct. However diesel i was able to get it to do it at about 20-30mph but much over that and you u saw what happend
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guys, if thats true, how come i have been doing all my drifting with my E-brake? and usually its WELL above 30mph......slowest ive done was 45 fastest being around 75....give it a good pull, hehe, it might not lock both wheels but one will lock..,
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LOL are you some punk, who wants to do these tricks because of recent videos advocating it?..thats right, jummp on the bandwagon! its cool now to drive like that and make burnouts! DO IT and learn it because everyone thinks its cool now!

When the next fashionable thing comes along, drop your things and hop on that bandwagon again.........

WTF is a brokeside?? stop using slang. if you want any sort of respect from me, then have the decency to properly call it an E-brake Turn or E-Brake Slide OR even just a 180 or 90 slide....i hope thats what your reffering to...

And if you dont know how to do it, dont learn now, not on your car, but its your call...

chill out dude. reguardless of what the guy wants, hes asking for advice and thats what we should give him. No need to pick him apart morally by the slang and the things he wants to do with his car. When you assume u make an ass outta u and me.

so fuck, if the guy wants to know how to do a brakeslide, explain to him why it could be bad or explain him how to do it. If u don't know either of those, no need to post
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i can do the reverse to forward 180. Used to do it in my Boxster.
Forward 180 is harder, though. I'd be afraid of flippin' the car.
As far as using the e-brake to slide.... sounds not that good for the car....but if you don't care.....
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i can do the reverse to forward 180. Used to do it in my Boxster.
Forward 180 is harder, though. I'd be afraid of flippin' the car.
As far as using the e-brake to slide.... sounds not that good for the car....but if you don't care.....
http://www.motegiracing.com/techzone...name=racetech3

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And for the drifter in you:

Drift Techniques

Kansei Drift is performed at race speeds when, upon entering a high speed corner, a driver lifts his foot off the throttle to induce a mild over steer and then balances the drift through steering and throttle motions. Note that the car used for this style of drift should be a neutral balanced car so that the over steer will induce itself. If the car plows through any turn the technique will not work.

Braking drift is performed by tail braking into a corner, resulting in loss of grip and then balanced through steering and throttle motions. Note that this is mainly for medium to low speed corners.

Faint Drift is performed by rocking the car towards the outside of a turn and then using the rebound of grip to throw the car into the normal cornering direction. This is a rally racing technique used to change vehicle attitudes during cornering, mainly on tight mountain corners.

Clutch Kick is performed by depressing the clutch pedal on approach or during a mild drift, then popping the clutch to give a sudden jolt through the driveline to upset rear traction.

Shift Lock is performed by letting the revs drop on downshift into a corner and then releasing the clutch to put stress on the driveline to slow the rear tires, inducing an over steer. This is similar to pulling the E-brake through a turn and should be performed on wet surfaces to minimize damage to the driveline.

E-Brake Drift is a very basic technique in which the driver pulls the E-Brake (emergency-brake) to induce rear traction loss and balances the drift through steering and throttle play. Note that this can also be used to correct errors or fine tune drift angles.

Dirt Drop Drift is performed by dropping the rear tires off the road into the dirt to maintain or gain drift angle without losing power or speed and to set up for the next turn. Note that this technique is very useful for low horsepower cars.

Jump Drift is a technique in which the rear tire on the inside of a turn or apex is bounced over a curb to lose traction resulting in over steer.

Long Slide Drift is performed by pulling the E-brake through a straight to start a high angle drift and to holding this to set up for the turn ahead. Note that this can only be done at high speed.

Swaying Drift is a slow side-to-side, faint-like drift where the rear end sways back and forth down a straight.

FF Drift or front wheel drive drift is a technique in which the E-brake as well as steering and braking techniques are used to balance the car through a corner. Note that the E-brake is the main technique used to balance the drift.

Power Over is performed when entering a corner and using full throttle to produce heavy over.

note: shamelessly stolen from some website. I ain't no expert....catch my drift......
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brakeslide is bad for the car in two OBVIOUS places. It wears tires, and it wears e-brake components.

It's bad for the car in passive ways too, like (duh) putting you at great risk of losing control and totaling your car.

It's also PROBABLY bad in other ways, as far as the increased lateral stress you're providing to the suspension components, which are not DESIGNED to support lateral stress. (Lateral means from the side, Coolivier.)

But it's also hella fun.

It's your car, do what you want, but don't ever put OTHERS in danger doing it. If you kill/hurt yourSELF, that's YOUR choice. If you hurt OTHER'S because you were being irresponsible, stupid, or immature... you're a big bag of shit.
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brakeslide is bad for the car in two OBVIOUS places. It wears tires, and it wears e-brake components.

It's bad for the car in passive ways too, like (duh) putting you at great risk of losing control and totaling your car.

It's also PROBABLY bad in other ways, as far as the increased lateral stress you're providing to the suspension components, which are not DESIGNED to support lateral stress. (Lateral means from the side, Coolivier.)

But it's also hella fun.

It's your car, do what you want, but don't ever put OTHERS in danger doing it. If you kill/hurt yourSELF, that's YOUR choice. If you hurt OTHER'S because you were being irresponsible, stupid, or immature... you're a big bag of shit.
true that, and BTW nice new sig cars coming out really nice!
But Matt cmon i beleive these cars were designed for a good amount of lateral stress, the cars are tested on "the ring" which they could exhibit well over .8G's even though drifting puts extra stress on the suspension that im aware...but as far as saying not "designed" to support lateral stress, i find that hard to swallow, just my opinion on this.

Sorry for the flaming earlier cooliver we all love eachother in here
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why would the E-Brake not work at speed? If that's a 'safety' feature, it's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. The whole point of the thing is to allow you to still be able to slow the car down in case of brake failure while moving...
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why would the E-Brake not work at speed? If that's a 'safety' feature, it's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. The whole point of the thing is to allow you to still be able to slow the car down in case of brake failure while moving...
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it's an emergency brake, not a emergency brake only if you're having an emergency at parking lot speeds
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It's your car, do what you want, but don't ever put OTHERS in danger doing it. If you kill/hurt yourSELF, that's YOUR choice. If you hurt OTHER'S because you were being irresponsible, stupid, or immature... you're a big bag of shit.
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Couldn't have said it better myself
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true that, and BTW nice new sig cars coming out really nice!
But Matt cmon i beleive these cars were designed for a good amount of lateral stress, the cars are tested on "the ring" which they could exhibit well over .8G's even though drifting puts extra stress on the suspension that im aware...but as far as saying not "designed" to support lateral stress, i find that hard to swallow, just my opinion on this.
I'm saying that the car is intended for everyday driving longevity, as well as performance. The suspension is designed to withstand stress and shocks from the front, and vertically.

It is fully capable of handling lateral stress. I just saying that it's not a car that was BUILT for drifting. The excess stress from sliding is not good for the car. Am I saying the rear shocks are going to buckle? NO. I'm just saying it's not the best idea.

Once again, I also say it's hella fun. I drift on a daily basis. There's just nothing like a "controlled loss of control".

(don't flame, I drift daily on some abandoned curvies near my pad)

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