a couple turbo upgrade datalogs

jpsimon · 03-30-2010, 09:15 PM

If you're thinking about doing a turbo upgrade please do yourself a favor and get a procede, it just works so beautifully/flawlessly...

There was a quick break in the rain today so I did a little datalogging... This is on 93 octane, right around 19psi max boost, with the smoothest timing logs I've ever seen. This was repeatable over and over and over again. It's clear I can get more aggressive with things

JoeyFiasco · 03-30-2010, 09:23 PM

19psi, wow.. i can't even fathom that yet.

Sniz · 03-30-2010, 09:32 PM

damn man, I'm sure that feels amazing.

When i'm up at MaximumPsi this year getting my car tuned, want to set up a run? I'd love to see where I stack up against your car now.

Ilma · 03-30-2010, 09:32 PM

Wow....

Just wow.

Would be interesting to see your Intake temps.

I bet they are pretty low.

No meth right?....just 93 Octane?

jpsimon · 03-30-2010, 09:39 PM

Yep, just 93 octane. I can't imagine how this car will do with race gas/meth. I think i had IAT's logged, lemme check

/edit/ At the end of that 3rd -> 4th gear log IAT's were at 93.1°

jpsimon · 03-30-2010, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sniz

damn man, I'm sure that feels amazing.

When i'm up at MaximumPsi this year getting my car tuned, want to set up a run? I'd love to see where I stack up against your car now.

where is MP?

JoeyFiasco · 03-30-2010, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ilma

Wow....

Just wow.

Would be interesting to see your Intake temps.

I bet they are pretty low.

No meth right?....just 93 Octane?

why do you think they are low? isn't he compressing even more air now which translates to more heat? not to mention the heat from the babies..

Ilma · 03-30-2010, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyFiasco

why do you think they are low? isn't he compressing even more air now which translates to more heat? not to mention the heat from the babies..

I thought the compressor was slightly larger......therefore a bigger fan is pushing air.

Relatively, it will rotate at a lower rpm in order to make the same boost as the smaller stock compressor, so things should be cooler due to less overall friction.

But what the hell do I know?

JP is reaching about the same intake temp at the end of fourth gear at 19 psi as I did tonight at 12 psi with stock turbos.

JoeyFiasco · 03-30-2010, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ilma

I thought the compressor was slightly larger......therefore a bigger fan is pushing air.

Relatively, it will rotate at a lower rpm in order to make the same boost as the smaller stock compressor, so things should be cooler due to less overall friction.

But what the hell do I know?

JP is reaching about the same intake temp at the end of fourth gear at 19 psi as I did tonight at 12 psi with stock turbos.

yeah I agree with your comments, it was just that you said "pretty low" on the previous post. these are the first set of numbers we get to see of upgrade turbos, so i don't even know what to expect.

Mahhvinn · 03-30-2010, 10:06 PM

Amazing stuff JP!

RiXst3r · 03-30-2010, 10:07 PM

Impressive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MFKN3 · 03-30-2010, 10:08 PM

Those logs are just, well... beautiful!! Check out that boost curve and ign adv.

I'm sure it's on your other thread, but how much are the turbo ugrades, does the engine have to be lifted to fit them and how do you setup the procede to control them?

335xiRT1 · 03-30-2010, 10:09 PM

looks good

Ilma · 03-30-2010, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeyFiasco

yeah I agree with your comments, it was just that you said "pretty low" on the previous post. these are the first set of numbers we get to see of upgrade turbos, so i don't even know what to expect.

I guess I base my speculation on his overall timing curve.

In 3rd he is advancing to 10 degrees......actual timing advance, uncorrected.

So things must be pretty cool in order to run that much advance at 19 psi I would imagine

jpsimon · 03-30-2010, 10:17 PM

ambient temp was around 50-55°

jpsimon · 03-30-2010, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xsboost

Those logs are just, well... beautiful!! Check out that boost curve and ign adv.

I'm sure it's on your other thread, but how much are the turbo ugrades, does the engine have to be lifted to fit them and how do you setup the procede to control them?

final pricing hasn't been decided yet I don't think. As soon as I know I'll let everyone know

jmunro · 03-30-2010, 10:35 PM

dyno #'s or 1/4 times or ban

cn555ic · 03-30-2010, 11:07 PM

WOW...19 psi and your not even pushing it either!

klipseracer · 03-30-2010, 11:23 PM

Looks good jp, I can't wait till these are available.

Ilma · 03-30-2010, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsimon

ambient temp was around 50-55°

Lol....I was refering to your intake temps being cool.

But yeah - ambients definitely impact that.

Amazing that you are only hitting 90F IAT's at 19 psi of boost.

Also amazing there is no boost taper to redline.

hun77777 · 03-30-2010, 11:32 PM

as i posted ealier, any words from EPL about engine potential? as far as turbo itself goes, i am sure you can run over 20psi as long as there is map for it but how about our engine? there was post about piston for our car on ebay, shouldn't we be looking into those slowly with more boost on these babies?

DR_E92 · 03-30-2010, 11:35 PM

looks great... how about some dyno runs now and after you finish tuning to see improvements

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